EPTFormula 1 - 2011 - Page 39
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soulpoetry
United Kingdom177 Posts
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
As for Maldonado the only real similar example I cant think of is Schumacher-Villeneuve from 97 which he was excluded from the championship (albeit an incident in a race not a closed session). I dont think he deserved that but a 5 place penalty is extremely soft in my view. As MB alluded to, it sets a very bad example to kids in junior formula. Exclusion from the race weekend in my view would have been just. Maldonado setting a bad example? Have you been watching F1 in 2011? Hamilton hit someone in the pit lanes at the stop light. Hit Maldonado in Monaco AFTER knocking Massa and getting a DT penalty, claimed he was being targetted because he is black, even though he got no real penalty for that (should have been a real DT penalty instead of a retrospective time addition). He got no penalty for bringing the sport into disrepute for claiming racism. Tangled with his own teammate in Canada (though atleast Button came out the winner in that!), tangled with Di Resta in Hungary. Thats in 2011! Go back to 2008-2010 and you see a string of transgressions with no penalties even. IF anyone is setting a bad example for "kids in junior formula", its this douchebucket. Oh and this doesn't even include the whole Mclaren espionage episode, the crane incident, the lying to stewards, getting caught and getting the team manager fired. A disgusting human being who lucked into an incredible car and even then has not managed to win a double. edit: The pit lane incident wasn't in 2011. | ||
GTR
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qwertzi
111 Posts
On August 28 2011 21:02 GTR wrote: going to laugh if it rains and schumacher manages to make top 8 from last. would bring back some memories :D | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
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Sazchu
Iceland489 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
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GTR
51576 Posts
i'm not laughing but im in awe, thats for sure. | ||
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NikonTC
United Kingdom418 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On August 27 2011 21:53 NikonTC wrote: Holy shit that better be the end of maldonado's career. Don't want children like that on the race track. How about now? Lewis runs Koba off the road, even though he was already under reprimand, its 100% his fault and he gets no penalty. Are you going to ask for the end of Hamilton's career to end? Today (and yesterday and in general throughout the season) there has been one tantrum throwing child on the race track. Hamilton. | ||
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FractalsOnFire
Australia1756 Posts
But was that an impressive drive from Schumacher and even props to Button from 13th. | ||
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elsation
Australia661 Posts
Good race though and glad to see Vettel increase his lead. | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On August 29 2011 19:17 elsation wrote: The Hamilton/Kobayashi incident was a racing incident, although if blame has to be apportioned it should be to Hamilton. The whole thing was reminiscent of Vettel and Webber getting together in Turkey in 2010 I think, that was Vettels fault and this one was Hamiltons fault. Having said that I dont think any sort of penalty is required. Good race though and glad to see Vettel increase his lead. I think you missed the whole part about hamilton admitting 100% culpability and once again escaping punishment. Hamilton moved into Koba. People asked for a ban on Maldonado for an incident that was at most 70:30 (I didn't see it but that is what autosport/bbcf1 was saying), and yet no one is asking for a ban on an incident that is 100:0! Someone raised an interesting point today. Button has been an overtaking machine this year (mostly because he qualifies badly and has the fastest race trim car) and had one major accident. With Hamilton. Honestly at this point Hamilton needs a multi-race ban, but we all know that is never going to happen. He is FIA's golden boy to create a new resurgence in F1 popularity in Britain and perhaps even in the US. | ||
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Makenshi
Sweden2105 Posts
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whatthefat
United States918 Posts
On August 29 2011 13:00 redviper wrote: How about now? Lewis runs Koba off the road, even though he was already under reprimand, its 100% his fault and he gets no penalty. Are you going to ask for the end of Hamilton's career to end? Today (and yesterday and in general throughout the season) there has been one tantrum throwing child on the race track. Hamilton. Clearly he thought he had completely passed Kobayashi when he hadn't. That was stupid, but it wasn't a deliberate attempt to take someone out. It's in no way comparable to Maldonado's manoeuvre, obviously. You say you haven't even seen it, so why bother commenting? Having said that, Hamilton needs to sort himself out. He's always been error-prone, but lately he's making an unacceptable number of risky and poorly-judged moves. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2010 Posts
Lewis has apologised and called it 100% his fault which I think is being harsh on himself. He moved over yes but there was still more than a car width of track left to Kamui (even if he wasnt aware how close he was). It was just an unfortunate racing incident. As for a punishment, how about the fact it ended his race. Or was this incident punished? It only didnt involve contact because Hamilton chose to take to the grass. Some drivers in F1 today have a much worse record of shall we say ethics and yet seems to recieve no level of hate in here. The only real black mark on Lewis' name was the steward incident from Australia. However if he had brake-tested his rivals twice, gone full speed into a double yellow zone (marshals on track) and crashed heavily risking lives, accused the sport of not being a sport, trying to sabotage your team-mates fuel, blocked competitors in the pits, blackmailed his team and conspired to win a GP through cheating you might have a point. I could list a certain Germans many indiscretions too but it would go on way too long. | ||
zere
Germany1287 Posts
On August 30 2011 05:45 Aristodemus wrote: Lewis has apologised and called it 100% his fault which I think is being harsh on himself. He moved over yes but there was still more than a car width of track left to Kamui (even if he wasnt aware how close he was). It was just an unfortunate racing incident. As for a punishment, how about the fact it ended his race. I hate do partially differ with you again, but Kamui hadn't.  + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/J53r9.jpg) I see it like that Kamui was going in a straight line along the straight, Lewis was going in a straight line, as well, but his direction of travel wasn't 100% aligned with the straight track. That's because he overestimated his car to be quicker than Kamui's on the straight - what usually is to be expected. He thought that by the end of the straight he would be way ahead Kamui, but, evidently, he wasn't. Imho Hamilton's only fault was to not double-check whether he underestimated Kamui's car or not. I agree with it being an unfortunate racing incident, no punishment needed. Could have avoided it and continued the race (for podium, probably) by just going on with the overtake, that's his punishment and should be punishment enough for him. I am shocked that I look at 3 of Lewis' situations this weekend and can say that he shouldn't get a punishment for either of them. What's going on with me? :D | ||
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