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Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
November 02 2010 14:53 GMT
#21
What are the coop modes included in the game, does anyone know?
D3 and Pho, the way to go. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340709
hobohunter
Profile Joined December 2007
Canada9 Posts
November 02 2010 15:11 GMT
#22
Hopefully it's good for competitive play! I need a new good fps

HAI JOSH
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 15:30:42
November 02 2010 15:30 GMT
#23
I heard steam has system to deal with hacks and cheats. Confirm/deny?

Never played any CoD and since Black ops looks cool I want it just for casual gaming like 2-3 hours a week, but I don't want cheater to ruin my experience. I also don't know anything about steam.

Yeah I don't play many games
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 15:44:58
November 02 2010 15:43 GMT
#24
Steam has a thing called VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Anti-Cheat

I heard about some pretty badly modded lobbies in MW2 for the 360 and the PC is a PC. People will always find a way to mod stuff when it's on actual computers. I've never really ran into stuff while playing COD on my PS3 that seemed really offkilter, beyond people that hacked 10th prestige. That doesn't impact the actual game, though, so it doesn't really matter like most cheats/hacks would.

I don't really play much on Steam, so I can't really say how well VAC works. Black Ops is on the list of games that make use of it, though. I wouldn't be too worried about going into games that were nothing but aimbotters, least not for a good long while.
ak1knight
Profile Joined April 2010
United States313 Posts
November 02 2010 17:05 GMT
#25
On November 03 2010 00:30 AyJay wrote:
I heard steam has system to deal with hacks and cheats. Confirm/deny?

Never played any CoD and since Black ops looks cool I want it just for casual gaming like 2-3 hours a week, but I don't want cheater to ruin my experience. I also don't know anything about steam.

Yeah I don't play many games

COD4 and WaW used Punkbuster. Since Black Ops is going back to dedicated servers I'd expect them to go back to that.
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BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 17:23:41
November 02 2010 17:23 GMT
#26
Black Ops will use VAC, which is pretty good in my experience at catching cheaters in the long run, but you'll still have to deal with people cheating, because they mass ban people at certain time intervals so cheat developers don't know which specific version is insecure. Although since the game uses dedicated servers it should be easy to say, voteban someone from a server if they're cheating.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 02 2010 17:24 GMT
#27
Black Ops uses the same system as MW2 does, and my god it sucks, there are hackers virtually everywhere on the PC.

Dedicated servers will make that much better,since you can ban/kick unwanted players from your servers if you wish

don't forget you have to pay for the dedicated servers tho
WriterXiao8~~
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
November 02 2010 18:02 GMT
#28
I was never big on the COD series, but I've been playing MW2 with some of my friends for a while and I'm thinking of picking this up for myself. They play on Xbox and I'm on a PC so I wont be able to play directly with them but at least I'll have a leg up when it comes to playing against them split screen.

I'm kinda confused by the dedicated server cost, I don't have time to watch the whole video to find the section explaining it. Does the person setting up the server have to pay a buck for each slot? Or is it like a dollar whenever I want to join a dedicated server? Obviously that sounds stupid but I just want to know what's going on before I buy anything.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 02 2010 18:08 GMT
#29
I have no source atm(sorry) i just read this but basically you rent a server for a period, so then its basically your server, if you split this cost with several mates/clans or bro's if you will then the cost will be neglible.
WriterXiao8~~
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
November 02 2010 19:43 GMT
#30
On November 03 2010 02:05 ak1knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 00:30 AyJay wrote:
I heard steam has system to deal with hacks and cheats. Confirm/deny?

Never played any CoD and since Black ops looks cool I want it just for casual gaming like 2-3 hours a week, but I don't want cheater to ruin my experience. I also don't know anything about steam.

Yeah I don't play many games

COD4 and WaW used Punkbuster. Since Black Ops is going back to dedicated servers I'd expect them to go back to that.

How will that work? If for example I suddenly want to play CoD could I just login into a game and join these dedicated servers?

Sorry if my questions are stupid, basically played only blizzard games in my life.
TheGreatWhiteHope_
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States335 Posts
November 02 2010 19:56 GMT
#31
My one fear is that they are making the game too noob friendly for the sake of higher sales. MW2 could have been SUCH a better game if it wasn't for this flaw. Hopefully treyarch moves this franchise into a new direction.
AyJay
Profile Joined April 2010
1515 Posts
November 02 2010 20:02 GMT
#32
On November 03 2010 04:56 RiB wrote:
My one fear is that they are making the game too noob friendly for the sake of higher sales. MW2 could have been SUCH a better game if it wasn't for this flaw. Hopefully treyarch moves this franchise into a new direction.

Dude 20 Million copies sold

Of course they will try to make game as casual as they can.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 02 2010 20:05 GMT
#33
If it's like MW2, then fuck it. But if it actually seems like a good game, I'll probably get it. I still play CoD 4 and WaW to this day, because they're amazing. But after playing MW2, I'm not excited for anything new from the CoD series. : /
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 02 2010 20:13 GMT
#34
Well, it looks like MW2 and having played a few games of MW2 I don´t think it will be any good either.
MW2 is the most horrible & casual game ever, to my experience.
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Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 20:27:52
November 02 2010 20:18 GMT
#35
CoD used to be my favorite franchise...back during the days of vcod (vanilla CoD). The competive scene here was at its strongest, even though it never really challenged CS, it was still very strong and a lot of fun. Since those days, each new CoD installment has gotten progressively worse. Cod2 was pretty fun, but the game was noticeably easy with most of the guns receiving reduced recoil and such.

CoD4 was then released and perks and stuff like that were introduced and that's when the game became became mainstream (also first time it released on consoles - excluding the mess of CoD3 [console only]). The game was admitably fresh and fun to pub and stuff like that, but the competitive scene did not interest me anymore. The guns had basically no recoil, excluding the Ak47, and my beloved bolt action rifle was no longer available (it makes sense historically I guess).

Then came, CoD:WaW. I had high hopes for this since it was going back to WW2 era. However, Treyarch is TERRIBLE. They basically just reskinned everything and ported it over with new shitty maps. The game was beyond awful. This is the same company that released CoD3 which was also trash. I played this game like 30 hours max...considering i played the original 1000+ hours...yeah....

Then came MW2, they didn't have dedicated servers, enough said. Never played it despite the fact that all of the sudden all my friends were OBSESSED with call of duty.

Anyways, as for this next installment. I may give it a try simply because dedicated servers are back. However, I have very low expectations due to the fact that Treyarch is somehow back. I doubt the competitive scene will ever get back to the glory days of vCoD, but one can only hope.

p.s. i take it from reading comments that people seem to have only started playing call of duty at CoD4.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 02 2010 20:27 GMT
#36
Oh yeah, is BO going to have a million marijuana references like MW2 did? I hated that.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
November 02 2010 20:30 GMT
#37
Can you LEAN in this game?? Not being able to lean and having no dedicated servers is what caused me to not buy MW2. Hopefully, since they got dedicated servers back, leaning is back as well.
Sergeras
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria185 Posts
November 02 2010 20:34 GMT
#38
On November 03 2010 02:24 Kipsate wrote:
Black Ops uses the same system as MW2 does, and my god it sucks, there are hackers virtually everywhere on the PC.

Dedicated servers will make that much better,since you can ban/kick unwanted players from your servers if you wish

don't forget you have to pay for the dedicated servers tho

Do you have any proof of this?I might as well regret pre-ordering Black Ops if it uses VAC.Punkbuster is the way to go why use VAC?!
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 20:59:23
November 02 2010 20:58 GMT
#39
On November 02 2010 17:25 prodiG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 17:22 Tekin wrote:
I was able to play against my friend on console. I gonna say the commando rifle is gonna be the next ACR from MW2 its so OP.

If you find a video on youtube of this gun, can you link it here? I can't find anything and I'm definitely curious~


Wish I could record some of games we played on split screen yesterday but I know youtube will take down the video within 5 sec of it posting up. ill try to take pictures today on the guns and perks.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Glaven
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
November 02 2010 21:01 GMT
#40
I am unbelievably excited for the "wager matches". Should make online multi that much more intense.



And zombie mode is always fun when you want a break! All in all i'm definitely buy it just because it has dedis screw you MW2
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