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Zapperkhan
Profile Joined October 2008
United States436 Posts
November 03 2010 19:07 GMT
#81
I'll just leave this here... http://xim360.com/
Can't wait for the new one to be released, so I may be a pubstar.
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
November 03 2010 19:12 GMT
#82
i already prepurchased my copy, can't wait to start playing it and stop raging at LoL :O
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
November 03 2010 19:38 GMT
#83
Let's just hope that there's no mp40 equivalent in this game
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
November 03 2010 19:48 GMT
#84
The new dashboard they released yesterday for xbox 360 should greatly halt the jtaggers tearing up the game early, and with the theatre mode Treyarch said they will be monitoring the leaderboards and banning accounts.

I am so hype for this game!
Chance favors the prepared mind.
sleeepy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada777 Posts
November 03 2010 19:57 GMT
#85
On November 04 2010 01:15 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote:
Never understood all the complaining about MW2.

It seemed sort of like the QQing about SC2 around launch (if you recall, even guys like Artosis were producing fountains of tears about it), only a guy like Artosis is really quite reasonable, and once he discovered he was being stupid about it, he relented, and the FPS community lacks this sort of deeper analysis that SC has as the most developed eSport franchise.

Sure, they needed to balance more, but it wasn't ANYWHERE NEAR as unbalanced as people suggest, and the ridiculous breadth of equipment combined with the hard counter nature of a lot of setups for other setups made for a really interest rock paper scissors experience. Of course, MLG lack the fortitude to support something like that and so banned a whole bunch of in game stuff for no reason, and IW was basically in the middle of imploding during this whole period (hence the lack of contract renogotiation), effectively destroying the competitive scene.

It's a real shame that MW2 gets such a bad rap, because it's a really, really, really good game, and it just happened to be the victim of a snowballing meme of internet tears.


No dedicated servers
No modding
No developer console
Re-colored CoD4 with a worse campaign and less features

Black Ops looks a little more promising. Servers are back which is a giant plus. The campaign has a more interesting setting. Wager matches look like a great way to have some fun. Weapon recoil is said to be brought back to the well balanced CoD2 level.
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
November 03 2010 20:29 GMT
#86
On November 04 2010 04:57 sleeepy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 01:15 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote:
Never understood all the complaining about MW2.

It seemed sort of like the QQing about SC2 around launch (if you recall, even guys like Artosis were producing fountains of tears about it), only a guy like Artosis is really quite reasonable, and once he discovered he was being stupid about it, he relented, and the FPS community lacks this sort of deeper analysis that SC has as the most developed eSport franchise.

Sure, they needed to balance more, but it wasn't ANYWHERE NEAR as unbalanced as people suggest, and the ridiculous breadth of equipment combined with the hard counter nature of a lot of setups for other setups made for a really interest rock paper scissors experience. Of course, MLG lack the fortitude to support something like that and so banned a whole bunch of in game stuff for no reason, and IW was basically in the middle of imploding during this whole period (hence the lack of contract renogotiation), effectively destroying the competitive scene.

It's a real shame that MW2 gets such a bad rap, because it's a really, really, really good game, and it just happened to be the victim of a snowballing meme of internet tears.


No dedicated servers
No modding
No developer console
Re-colored CoD4 with a worse campaign and less features

Black Ops looks a little more promising. Servers are back which is a giant plus. The campaign has a more interesting setting. Wager matches look like a great way to have some fun. Weapon recoil is said to be brought back to the well balanced CoD2 level.


Everyone agrees the PC version is terrible, so let's not get into that. I think IamTheWhiteGuy is referring to the console versions and I completely agree with him. Youtubers playing MW2 got a huge following and because some of the more popular ones began QQing about a few perks/balance issues, the entire community went haywire. I think MW2 is amazing, I still play it till this day when I'm frustrated with SC2 or when I want to just play something more relaxing. I played almost every FPS you can name and I have to say that MW2 is definitely up there when it comes to fun factor. It annoys me when people complain about the game when its one of the most polished and enjoyably FPS' ever made.
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
November 03 2010 20:31 GMT
#87
Already pre purchased it from steam, honestly cant wait to try those new wager match modes, seems really exciting.
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
IamTheWhiteGuy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 21:02:15
November 03 2010 20:38 GMT
#88
On November 04 2010 05:29 Raisauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 04:57 sleeepy wrote:
On November 04 2010 01:15 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote:
Never understood all the complaining about MW2.

It seemed sort of like the QQing about SC2 around launch (if you recall, even guys like Artosis were producing fountains of tears about it), only a guy like Artosis is really quite reasonable, and once he discovered he was being stupid about it, he relented, and the FPS community lacks this sort of deeper analysis that SC has as the most developed eSport franchise.

Sure, they needed to balance more, but it wasn't ANYWHERE NEAR as unbalanced as people suggest, and the ridiculous breadth of equipment combined with the hard counter nature of a lot of setups for other setups made for a really interest rock paper scissors experience. Of course, MLG lack the fortitude to support something like that and so banned a whole bunch of in game stuff for no reason, and IW was basically in the middle of imploding during this whole period (hence the lack of contract renogotiation), effectively destroying the competitive scene.

It's a real shame that MW2 gets such a bad rap, because it's a really, really, really good game, and it just happened to be the victim of a snowballing meme of internet tears.


No dedicated servers
No modding
No developer console
Re-colored CoD4 with a worse campaign and less features

Black Ops looks a little more promising. Servers are back which is a giant plus. The campaign has a more interesting setting. Wager matches look like a great way to have some fun. Weapon recoil is said to be brought back to the well balanced CoD2 level.


Everyone agrees the PC version is terrible, so let's not get into that. I think IamTheWhiteGuy is referring to the console versions and I completely agree with him. Youtubers playing MW2 got a huge following and because some of the more popular ones began QQing about a few perks/balance issues, the entire community went haywire. I think MW2 is amazing, I still play it till this day when I'm frustrated with SC2 or when I want to just play something more relaxing. I played almost every FPS you can name and I have to say that MW2 is definitely up there when it comes to fun factor. It annoys me when people complain about the game when its one of the most polished and enjoyably FPS' ever made.


Well that's just it.

I would argue the PC version of MW2 (or CoD 4 or WaW) has ALWAYS been terrible for anyone who isn't a competitive FPS gamer.

You get stupid mods that add ridiculous features, unnecessary team stacking autobalance, giant multicolored writing all across the screen and other unpleasantness, and it is verging on impossible to find a good server with 11 other reasonable people to play on.

Anyone who has tried ground war on a console knows that Call of Duty is not Call of Duty once you get up to nine players a side on those maps. Once you start doing 32 (i.e. 95% of the available servers), the game is well and truly fucked. It's not Call of Duty any more. It's not tight, it's not focused, and it's even less balanced than MW2 was in the first place (which, when you consider the amount of content, is honestly not so bad). It's an unending rain of grenades and harriers, and it gets stupid in a hurry.

If you don't have access to a private server, and you don't have access to a competent team and another competent team to scrim against, it is impossible to get a real game of CoD in. That's virtually everyone.

With MW2, I press a button, and one in ten times I get a British 56K host lagfest, and the other nine times I get an awesome 50-70ms game (instead of the 20ms I'd get with a dedicated server) in which me and eleven other people kill each other for five to ten minutes and all have a good time while doing it.

I'm not even going to touch sleepy's comment that CoD 4 had more features than MW2. If he means dropdown menu options, he's probably right, but MW2 beats the crap out of MW1 for actual game content, and that's how I'd prefer it.
The core gamer is the bastard middle child of the casual and hardcore gamer. He invests the former's effort and cries when he doesn't get the latter's results.
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
November 03 2010 21:06 GMT
#89
already preordered the game, i'm really looking forward to it in case of the competitive side of the game. it has dedicated servers, you can turn off specific weapons, perks, killstreaks and what not.

i really, really hope that this game is going to do much better in competitive gaming then MW2!

and i would also be interested in a TL.net group or something.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
November 03 2010 21:31 GMT
#90
If there is interest i would be willing to start a TL group on steam.
FADC
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
November 03 2010 22:12 GMT
#91
On November 04 2010 06:31 rwrzr wrote:
If there is interest i would be willing to start a TL group on steam.

go for it ;D put the team on ma back~
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
ithree
Profile Joined January 2010
443 Posts
November 03 2010 22:35 GMT
#92
On November 04 2010 04:07 Zapperkhan wrote:
I'll just leave this here... http://xim360.com/
Can't wait for the new one to be released, so I may be a pubstar.


There is no way hell that can be legal, the shear amount of rape goes against the Geneva convention (section 2.3, rapes per non-bovine child).

The most generous auto aim since god himself guided a fly into my eye, coupled with the precision of a mouse. Hell just the verticality of a mouse opposing the controllers 'up 30 degrees' would be imbalanced, and playing people are effectively wearing bocking gloves.

Installing now. . .

+ Show Spoiler +
sadly lack of xbox may make that a little difficult. Though that does safe me from thirteen year old ear rape.


Even ignoring the awesome zombie-ness I'm really looking forward to release, the failure of MoH (common! what 4 guns, no choices, spawn camping come rape etc) just leaves me wanting something to replace B:Bad Company 2 and thats just a fake Battlefield.

(Anyone else looking forward to this 'new' Battlefield announcement on Friday ? )

Though the whole MW2 has left me with the suspension I'm getting back with my crazy crack filled ex..
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 22:58:42
November 03 2010 22:56 GMT
#93
Already played the campaign and i dont really like it. The game is so annoying with flashing light, and this guy try to remember his past
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
November 04 2010 00:31 GMT
#94
Poked around steam. There is a TL steam group already I'm going to join that and just post there.
FADC
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
November 04 2010 03:02 GMT
#95
I still haven't made my mind up about Black Ops... guess I will wait until post-launch to decide ;/
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 03:53:57
November 04 2010 03:53 GMT
#96
On November 04 2010 07:12 prodiG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 06:31 rwrzr wrote:
If there is interest i would be willing to start a TL group on steam.

go for it ;D put the team on ma back~

a TL Black Ops group? cuz tl already has a steam group

edit: oh you saw nvm
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
November 04 2010 03:55 GMT
#97
MW2 had the potential to be really exceptional. Explosive and killstreak spam + silly crap like Commando constantly gets in the way, though. When most/all people in the game are just using their guns normally it can be fairly enjoyable. The maps do sometimes cause issues, especially in some of the objective modes, it's just that a lot of junk gets in the way all the time and drags down the experience for many people.

It is quite polished, they just included some really bad ideas that they also polished and only really fixed one of the issues (akimbo models) after release. It did a few more things I don't personally like, but aren't game breaking (don't like Marathon's infinite sprint for a number of small reasons). Also had a number of smaller annoyances. Like fixing the insane range/deadliness of grenades and then just adding Semtex to nullify that fix. At least you had a good chance of running from a COD4 grenade, unless it was cooked or was a lucky across the map throw. And if the opponent cooked it properly, good for him.


I'm Vortok on PSN (and on West Coast). Wouldn't mind having some TL people to play with either. Friend is trying to hit 70 of his current prestige in MW2 (currently 66, aiming for 1 rank a day right now) before Black Ops and is dragging me along in case anybody wants to gets a few last MW2 games in. Mostly demolition spam, though.

Which reminds me, I wonder what the good, non Search game mode will be for leveling in Black Ops. In COD4 it was headquarters, but in MW2 the teamwide points for having an HQ tick got nerfed down to 20% of what it was in COD4, if I recall correctly. MW2 it was Demolition once you got to the later levels since the match bonus got pretty enormous given how short the rounds are. No idea what it was in WaW as I didn't play that one.
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
November 04 2010 03:55 GMT
#98
Getting this game on Friday :D ahhh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
November 04 2010 04:08 GMT
#99
On November 04 2010 12:53 SayaSP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 07:12 prodiG wrote:
On November 04 2010 06:31 rwrzr wrote:
If there is interest i would be willing to start a TL group on steam.

go for it ;D put the team on ma back~

a TL Black Ops group? cuz tl already has a steam group

edit: oh you saw nvm


TL CoD steam group maybe?
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 04 2010 04:20 GMT
#100
On November 04 2010 05:38 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 05:29 Raisauce wrote:
On November 04 2010 04:57 sleeepy wrote:
On November 04 2010 01:15 IamTheWhiteGuy wrote:
Never understood all the complaining about MW2.

It seemed sort of like the QQing about SC2 around launch (if you recall, even guys like Artosis were producing fountains of tears about it), only a guy like Artosis is really quite reasonable, and once he discovered he was being stupid about it, he relented, and the FPS community lacks this sort of deeper analysis that SC has as the most developed eSport franchise.

Sure, they needed to balance more, but it wasn't ANYWHERE NEAR as unbalanced as people suggest, and the ridiculous breadth of equipment combined with the hard counter nature of a lot of setups for other setups made for a really interest rock paper scissors experience. Of course, MLG lack the fortitude to support something like that and so banned a whole bunch of in game stuff for no reason, and IW was basically in the middle of imploding during this whole period (hence the lack of contract renogotiation), effectively destroying the competitive scene.

It's a real shame that MW2 gets such a bad rap, because it's a really, really, really good game, and it just happened to be the victim of a snowballing meme of internet tears.


No dedicated servers
No modding
No developer console
Re-colored CoD4 with a worse campaign and less features

Black Ops looks a little more promising. Servers are back which is a giant plus. The campaign has a more interesting setting. Wager matches look like a great way to have some fun. Weapon recoil is said to be brought back to the well balanced CoD2 level.


Everyone agrees the PC version is terrible, so let's not get into that. I think IamTheWhiteGuy is referring to the console versions and I completely agree with him. Youtubers playing MW2 got a huge following and because some of the more popular ones began QQing about a few perks/balance issues, the entire community went haywire. I think MW2 is amazing, I still play it till this day when I'm frustrated with SC2 or when I want to just play something more relaxing. I played almost every FPS you can name and I have to say that MW2 is definitely up there when it comes to fun factor. It annoys me when people complain about the game when its one of the most polished and enjoyably FPS' ever made.


Well that's just it.

I would argue the PC version of MW2 (or CoD 4 or WaW) has ALWAYS been terrible for anyone who isn't a competitive FPS gamer.

You get stupid mods that add ridiculous features, unnecessary team stacking autobalance, giant multicolored writing all across the screen and other unpleasantness, and it is verging on impossible to find a good server with 11 other reasonable people to play on.

Anyone who has tried ground war on a console knows that Call of Duty is not Call of Duty once you get up to nine players a side on those maps. Once you start doing 32 (i.e. 95% of the available servers), the game is well and truly fucked. It's not Call of Duty any more. It's not tight, it's not focused, and it's even less balanced than MW2 was in the first place (which, when you consider the amount of content, is honestly not so bad). It's an unending rain of grenades and harriers, and it gets stupid in a hurry.

If you don't have access to a private server, and you don't have access to a competent team and another competent team to scrim against, it is impossible to get a real game of CoD in. That's virtually everyone.

With MW2, I press a button, and one in ten times I get a British 56K host lagfest, and the other nine times I get an awesome 50-70ms game (instead of the 20ms I'd get with a dedicated server) in which me and eleven other people kill each other for five to ten minutes and all have a good time while doing it.

I'm not even going to touch sleepy's comment that CoD 4 had more features than MW2. If he means dropdown menu options, he's probably right, but MW2 beats the crap out of MW1 for actual game content, and that's how I'd prefer it.


competitive pc cod4 is 5v5 search and destroy with promod, just for the record..
i dont understand your not cod anymore comment

your lucky with the mw2 matchmaking, mines often 130ping+ where dedicated servers are around 30, horrible horrible decision

@the original post quoted: mw2 lacked so many features its not surprising no-ones minds changed; world at war should have been given more of a chance though
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