Just read about the salary cap and all the exceptions, seems like a german introduced all those rules and exceptions ^^

Does anyone know, how the teams of the same conference are chosen, against which a team plays only 3 times instead of 4, and why are not 4 games added to play all conference teams 4 times?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

February 23 2011 22:28 GMT

#1882

Well when looking at elite level point guards all of it comes into play which is the issue here. The one thing that Derrick Rose does above Chris Paul and Deron Williams is score more. Partly because of his team and partly because injury (CP3) and D-Will only taking over when he has to counts.

Derrick Rose is probably a slightly better defender than D-Will now. He improved a lot under Thibs.

Thats about where all his advantages stop. He's a scoring PG that is an above average passer and above average defender. But Chris Paul is elite at almost everything and so is Deron Williams. Remember that the hype that Derrick Rose is getting now is the same hype D-Will and CP3 had in 08-09.

As for what D-Rose needs to work on his shot selection is pretty bad at times. Thats why his FG% is so low compared to last year. He still isn't a ball thief but he's getting there. He's also not a "kill your entire team" scorer the likes of Wade, Lebron or Kobe. In fact no one in the NBA except Dirk is probably even close to that level.

RowdierBob

Australia13007 Posts

February 24 2011 00:18 GMT

#1883

Utah must have really thought Williams was going to walk out when he hit FA. I can't imagine why else they'd trade him.

Completely agree with Ace about Rose.

Zim23

United States1681 Posts

February 24 2011 00:25 GMT

#1884

DWill trade is huge. Still can't believe it. Any word on whether he plans on signing with the Nets or is he jumping ship for sure?

igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

February 24 2011 00:48 GMT

#1885

What the hell is going on? Every time I check out for a few hours, some huge change happens?

Edit: after some digestion
Devin Harris is overrated, so that's definitely an improvement. With Favors it gets murky, isn't Favors supposed to be good? This deal is all about Favors.

The only (basketball) knock on Deron Williams I've heard, was that he's horrible in the fast break, which was why Sloan was yelling at him to not make dumb decisions.

More editting: Sloan's reaction
"I have no reaction to what the Jazz are doing. We wish him well," Sloan said of Williams. "We wish the Jazz well. Good luck to Deron."

Photos: Deron Williams' career

D-Will is on the move from Utah
to New Jersey. Enjoy photos of the All-Star's career: Deron Williams Photo Gallery

Sloan then said he had to "go rake some leaves right now."

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

February 24 2011 00:55 GMT

#1886

Bad deal for the Nets, I feel bad for them.. they kinda got "sloppy seconds". They got shafted by every big FA, now they got Deron Williams but he really has no pieces around him for him to thrive or for them to create a winning situation in NJ.

Brook Lopez really isn't the type of player who will complement Williams' game... he needs a guy to run pick and rolls with, Lopez is more of a banger down low. Plus, Williams can't take over games and win individually the way someone like Melo can. A one dimensional scorer would have been better for them as opposed to an elite PG who can really only thrive with good pieces surrounding him.

NJ is basically the trash of LA's bench last year + Lopez + Williams now o_O

Seeker

Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts

February 24 2011 01:01 GMT

#1887

Watching the Thunder vs Spurs game.
There are some crap calls by the refs
A flagrant 1 on Collison
and 2 techinicals on Durant and Duncan.
WTF? If you guys watch the vid, CLEARLY these are some shit calls

RowdierBob

Australia13007 Posts

February 24 2011 01:13 GMT

#1888

I doubt Williams will be in NJ purely for rent. I reckon he'll sign on and they'll make some other pretty big moves. Maybe Dwight will end up in NJ? o_O

Engore

United States1916 Posts

February 24 2011 02:20 GMT

#1889

When i got home and saw he had already been traded i had one word. "Wow" i didn't see that coming at all. They talked about him moving after the season but not before the trade deadline. It should be exciting to see if the Nets can start reviving the team and if they do end up moving to Brooklyn.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

February 24 2011 03:38 GMT

#1890

So I check the Nets scorebox pretty much every game and also watch the occasional game because I have Humphries but I don't see the potential everyone's talking about. At the beginning of the season Avery Johnson said he was going to start Favors at some point knowing the Nets aren't gonna contend but since Humphries has come off the bench which has been awhile now, he's outproduced Favors every single night.

RowdierBob

Australia13007 Posts

February 24 2011 04:07 GMT

#1891

David Aldridge via Twitter:

Wiz trading Hinrich/Hilton Armstrong 2 ATL 4 Jordan Crawford, Bibby, Mo Evans, first

Good trade for the Hawks? I'm no so sure.

Engore

United States1916 Posts

February 24 2011 04:43 GMT

#1892

I think favors was part of the Deron williams trade.

I checked out the stats for that hawks/wizards trade, seems a little imbalanced towards the hawks. Bibby seems like a loss for the hawks but really other than him it seems even.

I thought with the start that the hawks had they would be a little better but being in eastern i can see why its hard to do good : /

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

February 24 2011 04:44 GMT

#1893

The only thing Mike Bibby can guard is a statue.

MassHysteria

United States3678 Posts

February 24 2011 04:51 GMT

#1894

On February 24 2011 13:44 Roffles wrote:
The only thing Mike Bibby can guard is a statue.

Lol true he definitely has lost a step, maybe two...plus he's not quite the playmaker he once was when he was with the kings. Hinrich is still an uprade for them I think.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

February 24 2011 05:25 GMT

#1895

I think D Will is a great PG, and that he will make the Nets better, as Favors was pretty bleh, but I also feel that the PG position is WAY OVERRATED.

If I told you you could have the #1 PG and the #5 Player at another position, that would be much worse than having the #1 Player at any other position and the #10 PG.

There is negligible difference between the following PGs: Paul, Williams, Rose, Rondo, Nash, Westbrook and then a small but noticeable difference between those and these: Curry, Parker, Ginobili, Wall, Nelson, Jennings, Evans, Davis, Billups, Kidd.

Point Guards are easy to find. Durant + Jose Calderon is better than Chris Paul + Marc Gasol

blizzind

United States642 Posts

February 24 2011 05:27 GMT

#1896

is brandon roy's career pretty much over? i think i remember reading that his knee was royally screwed to where surgery can't cure it. he was a freaking top 10 player in the league.

RowdierBob

Australia13007 Posts

February 24 2011 07:57 GMT

#1897

I'm sure Roy doesn't think so, but I doubt there'd be any teams willing to take him on unless the price was really, really right. And even if he did come back, he wouldn't be half the player he was.

Who knows, maybe he can be a nice role player for the right team, but if I were a GM I wouldn't go near Roy with a 30 foot pole.

It's pretty sad to see a promising career never reach the heights it should have, but barring some sort of Robocop knee, Roy is a spent force in the NBA.

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

February 24 2011 08:12 GMT

#1898

Oh shit, B-Diddy just got shipped to the Cavs for Mo Williams.

Davis + 1st Rounder for Williams/Moon.

XaI)CyRiC

United States4471 Posts

February 24 2011 08:29 GMT

#1899

Even though Baron was a constant health risk and one bad mood swing from becoming unmotivated again, it's sad to see him leave the Clippers. He had developed what appeared to be a great rapport with Blake, and was showing glimpses of the great talent he is this season. Baron's personality also fit LA more, it's hard to imagine Mo Will displaying the same flare to fire up a crowd like Baron. I certainly can't picture Mo tossing a lob out of a car and come roaring out of it after a completed dunk.

shmay

United States1091 Posts

February 24 2011 09:21 GMT

#1900

Baron had to go, but for Mo Williams? The last thing the Clips need is another shoot first PG (Gordon and Bledsoe love to shoot).

They need to trade Kaman.