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icystorage
Jollibee19349 Posts
but with crash and eventual return of my boy brandon roy then tblazers defense upped a notch | ||
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saltygrapes
181 Posts
We'll see how it works out. Nate Robinson has hit some big shots for them as well. Miami/Chicago fans should be ecstatic today. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:52 Holcan wrote: im not trying to downplay what perkins can do, but you cant deny that after his injury he never had the lift, nor the ability to run that he had before the injury, which in turn takes him from an elite defender, to just another good defender. Im just as upset the fucked with the 5 who have never lost a playoff series together, but at the same time it was noticable that Perkins PnR defense was a huge liability for the Celtics, something that Jeff Green does particularly well. Am i happy for the trade? fuck no, do i think it ruins Bostons chances at a title, also no, they are still in a damn good position to compete against the other top tier teams. Im sure Krstic can eat minutes at Center too, a lot more so than Semih Erden, and his fouls will be more valuble as well. Perkins looked fine. Where are you getting this? If he indeed wasn't as good as before then who's to say he wouldn't get back to his previous level? It wasn't like he got hurt due to age or poor knees. It was a freak accident that took him out. Perkins PnR defense was always good. Where/When did he fail at it? Also why the hell would Jeff Green be an upgrade in that aspect when PnR defense has never been a problem for Boston? On February 25 2011 07:02 saltygrapes wrote: Miami/Chicago fans should be ecstatic today. You have no idea how crazy they are going right now. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On February 25 2011 07:02 saltygrapes wrote: Lol Danny Ainge. Jeff Green is good, and will be a great 3/4 backup to Pierce/Garnett, but he just sent away Boston's biggest asset of their strongest advantage over Miami, as well as Boston's best interior defender against Dwight Howard. We'll see how it works out. Nate Robinson has hit some big shots for them as well. Miami/Chicago fans should be ecstatic today. LAL Orlando fans maybe, if anything this makes it harder for Miami and Chicago, since this negates the advantage they had over them. Remember Boston manhandled Miami without Perkins. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14894 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On February 25 2011 07:04 Ace wrote: Perkins looked fine. Where are you getting this? If he indeed wasn't as good as before then who's to say he wouldn't get back to his previous level? It wasn't like he got hurt due to age or poor knees. It was a freak accident that took him out. Perkins PnR defense was always good. Where/When did he fail at it? Also why the hell would Jeff Green be an upgrade in that aspect when PnR defense has never been a problem for Boston? You have no idea how crazy they are going right now. Ive been paying close attention to Perkins since he came back, and its apparent he cant run as well, and that playing the PnR was very hard on him since he didnt have the lateral quickness he had before the injury. Its not that they were getting abuse by PnR but you can tell that their level of D with perkins going out the perimeter was worse than if perkins was staying inside the lane. Like i said, im as distraught over this trade as much as you, but from this perspective i can see Ainges reasoning. Jeff Green is particularly good at PnR because of his ability to guard smaller defenders allows a bit more time for recovery, and his ability to run clearly surpasses Perkins. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 25 2011 06:40 Nik0 wrote: Unless he can guard Bynum and Gasol at the same time Perkins cant negate the Laker's size You know that Durant can guard Odom right? They are about the same size, and Durant is a very athletic defender. So can Ibaka. Westbrook/Fisher Harden/Kobe Durant/Artest Ibaka/Odom Perkins/Gasol Looks much better than before. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On February 25 2011 07:13 Ace wrote: and what do the Celtics do about penetrating wing players now? same thing they've done for years, have a 7 footer knock them down and make them think twice about coming into bostons lane :D. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 25 2011 07:50 cLutZ wrote: You know that Durant can guard Odom right? They are about the same size, and Durant is a very athletic defender. So can Ibaka. Westbrook/Fisher Harden/Kobe Durant/Artest Ibaka/Odom Perkins/Gasol Looks much better than before. it doesn't work like that | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
im gonna be getting back home from work just in time to watch 2 of my favorite teams go at it, heat and bulls! AHHHHHHHHHHH life is good =) | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
Green is an interesting player. He was clearly expendable to OKC, so I'm not surprised they let him go, but he's got talent and could be a very good contributor in the right role. Green has always been undersized as a PF, but there are fewer true PFs in the East, particularly in playoff contention. On the West, he had to contend with the likes of Duncan, Gasol, Z-Bo, Aldridge, and Dirk. On the East, he's got Bosh (who plays a good amount of C and isn't that big or strong), Boozer (strong but only 6'9"), and Amare (plays a lot of C and is also not as tall as those in the West). With that list, it actually becomes arguable that Perkins became less important as the only real low post threat to the Celtics is Dwight, whose team is looking less and less like a contender. Green also injects some young talent on to a rapidly aging Boston roster, who plays hard on both ends of the court and has some real talent. The rebounding will be an issue when they play him at PF, but he could more than make up for that by being a great starting-quality backup to both Pierce and KG. They may miss Perkins if and when they meet the Lakers or Spurs in the Finals, but otherwise it seems like they may have conceded a bit on an aspect of their team they could afford to. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 25 2011 08:19 XaI)CyRiC wrote: I'm a bit surprised Boston traded away both Perkins and Erden since it leaves them with just Krstic and two over-the-hill injury risks to man the middle. It could work, especially if Shaq can stay healthy and provide solid interior defense and rebounding, but it's a pretty big gamble for a team that was already doing so well and was poised to win the East and possibly the Finals. Green is an interesting player. He was clearly expendable to OKC, so I'm not surprised they let him go, but he's got talent and could be a very good contributor in the right role. Green has always been undersized as a PF, but there are fewer true PFs in the East, particularly in playoff contention. On the West, he had to contend with the likes of Duncan, Gasol, Z-Bo, Aldridge, and Dirk. On the East, he's got Bosh (who plays a good amount of C and isn't that big or strong), Boozer (strong but only 6'9"), and Amare (plays a lot of C and is also not as tall as those in the West). With that list, it actually becomes arguable that Perkins became less important as the only real low post threat to the Celtics is Dwight, whose team is looking less and less like a contender. Green also injects some young talent on to a rapidly aging Boston roster, who plays hard on both ends of the court and has some real talent. The rebounding will be an issue when they play him at PF, but he could more than make up for that by being a great starting-quality backup to both Pierce and KG. They may miss Perkins if and when they meet the Lakers or Spurs in the Finals, but otherwise it seems like they may have conceded a bit on an aspect of their team they could afford to. NO CYRIC! DONT TRY TO TALK ME OFF THE LEDGE! I'M JUMPING AND THATS THAT! | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
Against the Lakers, that might be a problem, particularly against the Gasol/Bynum frontcourt. They'd almost have to put Ibaka and Perkins out together to match up, which would then put Harden on Kobe. Based on what I've seen, that'd be very bad for OKC as Harden has shown no ability to guard Kobe thus far. Playing Durant at PF would not be a good idea for OKC as he's still too skinny at this point, and would get beat up down low, even if it were Odom/Gasol. | ||
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13007 Posts
I don't think the deal make a whole lot of sense for Boston. They're banking on banged up O'Neal duo to hold the 5 position together. And I really don't know how they're going to fit Green into the system. They're giving up their starting C for a back-up SF/PF who will play maybe 20mins a game? Lateral move at best for Boston (maybe they have inside info on his fitness?). It's a good move for OKC, but they're still a decent 6th man away from being a real threat IMO. I think they'll be great defensively, but I don't know if they'll have enough scoring options to get them over the line come Playoffs time. JUMP ACE, JUMP! | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
BOS seems to have given up their only advantage over the heat - size and lane defense. I don't get it at all. | ||
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