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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On April 08 2011 12:55 FQD1911 wrote: D-Rose just shored up the "Best PG in the East" convo a little bit more tonight. Rondo not only got abused guarding Rose, but didn't do squat on O. ouch. Some of that was just due to him whiffing on open layups repeatedly though. He could have had a lot more points. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On April 08 2011 00:27 BalliSLife wrote: I wonder who MJ had more difficulty playing against during practice, Pippen or Rodman? then again the guy was just so fucking good he probably just didn't try at all during practice and still own them. This is one of those innocuously disturbing quotes. It goes against the very essence of Michael Jordan. Maybe you think this guy is Michael Jordan + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcTHP2K1ZWY instead of + Show Spoiler + or + Show Spoiler + starting at 5 minutes he talks almost nonstop about people who he felt he trying to compete against The true essence of Jordan isn't highlights, it's a awe inspiring, borderline sociopathic desire to put everything he had into destroying people. Jordan isn't a baller, he's pure competitive desire. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13423 Posts
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iDoMiNaTe2.0
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
Also, Pierce and Iverson are both locks for the HOF. If not, then the HOF needs to start booting out alot of people. Dumars and Pierce aren't the same caliber of player, just look at Isiah's last year, and the year after Isiah, but before Grant Hill. Dumars got exposed during that time, Pistons won like 25 games both years. Also fuck VInce Carter, he's a disgrace not only to basketball but humankind. HOF shouldn't acknowledge that he even existed. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13423 Posts
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Spicy Pepper
United States632 Posts
On April 08 2011 21:30 RowdierBob wrote: Shaq took his talents for granted?! I mean, ok, maybe he wasn't Jordan intense but it's a bit harsh to say a 3 time Finals MVP took his talent for granted. Shaq worked hard to get where he did and it showed. His body broke down more than anything. His body broke down in part, because he showed up every season out of shape. This is well known. Everyone from Kobe to Phil Jackson to the LA media, to Shaq himself has said this. Shaq never took the regular season all that serious, and made many statements such as injurying himself on company time, so he could rehab on company time, rather than in the offseason. I'm not saying he was the laziest player, but no one's going to accuse Shaq of working too hard either. This was a part of the beef between him and Kobe. Shaq was top dog on those teams, but because Kobe is a hard worker and being second to Shaq who didn't work hard irritated him alot. Of course there was alot more than that between the two, but there were always stories about how Kobe worked his ass off, while Shaq worked himself into shape during the season. Also, Shaq's talent was tremendous, higher than many other great players. I'm by no means hating on Shaq, imo he was the best player post-Jordan, but that doesn't mean I believe he topped off. Seeing him at the beginning of each season was pretty annoying as a fan, because you could see all the extra fat he accumulated each offseason. Pretty tough to convince me that he's a hard worker, when he shows up fat. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 08 2011 20:47 Spicy Pepper wrote: lol@ the idea Jordan was the best, so he didn't try. Jordan is pretty well known to be pretty merciless to his teammates. He had that KG quality of consistent intensity. He wanted to win every game and got into fights with teammates when he thought they weren't practicing hard enough, the guy was intense. Horace Grant hated Jordan, Steve Kerr and Jordan got into a brawl. There's lots of documentation of Jordan basically fighting or knocking out a teammate or tryout player, because they ticked him off in some way. The guy never coasted on his talent and that's why so many people loved his game. He basically had the most talent anyone had ever seen, but he didn't take it for granted the way someone like Shaq did. Also, Pierce and Iverson are both locks for the HOF. If not, then the HOF needs to start booting out alot of people. Dumars and Pierce aren't the same caliber of player, just look at Isiah's last year, and the year after Isiah, but before Grant Hill. Dumars got exposed during that time, Pistons won like 25 games both years. Also fuck VInce Carter, he's a disgrace not only to basketball but humankind. HOF shouldn't acknowledge that he even existed. Pierce missed the playoffs with ~30ish win teams plenty of times | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On April 08 2011 20:47 Spicy Pepper wrote: Also, Pierce and Iverson are both locks for the HOF. If not, then the HOF needs to start booting out alot of people. Dumars and Pierce aren't the same caliber of player, just look at Isiah's last year, and the year after Isiah, but before Grant Hill. Dumars got exposed during that time, Pistons won like 25 games both years. How can Pierce be a lock when it took DJ/Dantley/Gilmore 15+ years each to get in, and guys like King, Sikma, and Mo Cheeks will probably never make it? | ||
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
On April 08 2011 12:55 FQD1911 wrote: D-Rose just shored up the "Best PG in the East" convo a little bit more tonight. Rondo not only got abused guarding Rose, but didn't do squat on O. ouch. Rondo hasn't been the same since the trade, though. On the whole, Rondo's season has been very good. Way to go Danny Ainge. Rather destroyed the whole Ubuntu thing. | ||
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FQD1911
83 Posts
also, is Miami still considering adding Eddy Curry? | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
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FQD1911
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BalliSLife
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RowdierBob
Australia13423 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 09 2011 10:36 BalliSLife wrote: I think everyones taking my statement on MJ not trying a bit too seriously, I was just curious as to who would of gave him a harder time during practice since both Pip and rodman were such tough defenders =/ Uhh... I'd imagine it'd be Ron Harper. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 08 2011 20:47 Spicy Pepper wrote: Also, Pierce and Iverson are both locks for the HOF. If not, then the HOF needs to start booting out alot of people. Dumars and Pierce aren't the same caliber of player, just look at Isiah's last year, and the year after Isiah, but before Grant Hill. Dumars got exposed during that time, Pistons won like 25 games both years. What? Pierce, Iverson and Dumars all had multiple terrible years. Dumars wasn't as talented as those two, but he was much, much better defender. He also played in the much tougher Central division where going 40-42 got you 6th place. That same year, the 76ers were first place in Atlantic with 26-56. On top of that is the GM stuff. | ||
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BalliSLife
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On April 09 2011 12:46 BalliSLife wrote: I'm surprised I wasn't flamed for saying iverson deserves to be in the HOF, I take it most of you guys agree? Yah, absolutely. Iverson had his flaws but I don't see how anyone can say he wasn't a HoFer. He practically defined the 3-5 transitional years of the NBA post-Jordan. @Jibba: Iverson was a defensive beast for a 4 years period 2001-2005. He fell off pretty hard after that but that 4 year stretch belongs in discussions with Payton. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13423 Posts
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