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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
Also, any recommendation on where to sell these cards? I've sold to Card Kingdom before and was offered better prices than my local store at least, and they made it easy to sell my 100+ valuable non-foil cards at the time (I only do drafts/sealed/MTGO so I just sell the cards I get). But now that I have a few individual cards worth decent money, like the foils mentioned, thinking I should list them somewhere individually. Maybe TCGPlayer? edit: To clarify - I play the drafts and sealed at my LGS and use those for my cards to sell. Any packs I win I just sell to others at the shop for a discount ($3 instead of $4) or on eBay otherwise. | ||
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RoieTRS
United States2569 Posts
If you don't wanna deal with the hassle of selling them on ebay or something, yeah sell them to a LGS or card kingdom or something. TCGPlayer has some requirement that you have to be in the selling business or something. You can't just list some cards. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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DEN1ED
United States1087 Posts
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GoSuNamhciR
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I was lucky enough to pull a foil Swiftspear which I sold for 18$ which is not bad for an uncommon that is a super niche card, even if it did just win a legacy tournament. I tend to sell niche cards after wins if I have them as they usually inflate a bit and then deflate slowly as people realize its not the "I always play this card in this color" they thought it was after a win or top 8 (Food chain anyone? That deck is sooooo awful.. just high variance). | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
Does Jeskai Ascendancy need to be banned? If so, which formats and why? | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 07 2014 23:49 Cixah wrote: Since it seems to be on the docket for most of the pro articles this week, Does Jeskai Ascendancy need to be banned? If so, which formats and why? Fair in Legacy cause of FoW, unfair everywhere else. I don't think people realize how resilient that deck is and how redundant it is. Others talk about how counter magic would be okay against it and then they realize that the deck can run 4 Pact of Negations, and lastly, its like Eggs in that once combo starts, its very unlikely to fizzle on top of it just being annoying. Plus its faster than Eggs...and Twin...and its only real threat in the format is Chalice on 1 and Eidolon on the draw. None of the other "threats" are legitimate ones, cards to play around, not combo ending ones. | ||
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Hagen0
Germany765 Posts
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LiangHuBBB
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
On October 07 2014 23:49 Cixah wrote: Since it seems to be on the docket for most of the pro articles this week, Does Jeskai Ascendancy need to be banned? If so, which formats and why? Probably modern, can't imagine it's good enough to be banned in Legacy. Deck is nuts in modern, definitely has vulnerabilities but can just race the hate. Also people overestimate 1-for-1 disruption against a deck that is all mana and cantrips. I actually think it could be a thing in legacy as a fast combo deck that is mostly immune to graveyard hate. Not necessarily a great thing but a thing nevertheless. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
what about seal of primordial? what about zealous persecution in response to casting the enchantment? I guess my question is, is this really about a deck being powerful or about a deck being so new that there is no "meta" that is pre-prepared for it. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On October 08 2014 11:15 Thieving Magpie wrote: is krosan grip in modern? what about seal of primordial? what about zealous persecution in response to casting the enchantment? I guess my question is, is this really about a deck being powerful or about a deck being so new that there is no "meta" that is pre-prepared for it. Not really, I mean a lot of decks already play Pyroclasm or Anger, but the Ascendancy deck is still resilient to that kind of hate and still can win on T3 on the play. Not to mention killing the enchantment does little but slow them down a couple turns because Glittering Wish means they effectively have 7. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 08 2014 11:15 Thieving Magpie wrote: is krosan grip in modern? what about seal of primordial? what about zealous persecution in response to casting the enchantment? I guess my question is, is this really about a deck being powerful or about a deck being so new that there is no "meta" that is pre-prepared for it. Krosan Grip maybe a turn slow and its not like that deck can't rebuild. Zealous Persecution may only net you 1 of their mana dorks (probably more likely it will once they see it), likewise if they go Carytid into Enchantment or Enchantment into mana dork you are still out of luck. This isn't something that you can hate out with some cards, ie - this isn't Twin, not even close. It's not the combo is easy to assemble (it is), it's the fact that deck is so resilient to spot disruption. You can't beat out their card draw when they're going through their deck so quickly with mono cantrips. If they probe you and only see 1 piece of disruption like Abrupt Decay for example, they will beat it fairly consistently. This isn't dredge level of I am playing Magic (debatable), but its pretty damn close since I wouldn't keep any hand without at least 2 pieces of spot disruption AND a fast clock (think faster than V. Clique) or a sustained disruption like Chalice. The biggest issue comes down to the fact that this deck can rebuild fairly quick since it has no interest in interacting unless it has to. No other deck in modern is like that, even Twin is just slow enough for decks to race it or out maneuver it. Likewise, how much are you willing to sack your other match ups just to be able to comfortably beat this deck. Remember that this deck can comfortably race affinity's faster draws while on the draw so its not like you have all day. | ||
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
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annedeman
Netherlands350 Posts
On October 06 2014 15:42 GoSuNamhciR wrote: The foil I would not sell would be Treasure Cruise as I expect it to go up a lot higher, I think its currently sitting at 15-20$ right now... if the card keeps pushing into the top 8 as 4 ofs expect it to hit brainstorm foil levels of 50-100$. I was lucky enough to pull a foil Swiftspear which I sold for 18$ which is not bad for an uncommon that is a super niche card, even if it did just win a legacy tournament. I tend to sell niche cards after wins if I have them as they usually inflate a bit and then deflate slowly as people realize its not the "I always play this card in this color" they thought it was after a win or top 8 (Food chain anyone? That deck is sooooo awful.. just high variance). i do not think so, delver foils are around 15, brainstorm foils are mainly so expensive because 1) masques was a mediocre set and has not been oppened as much 2) foils were way way way more rare at the time 3) conspiracy has not been openenend nearly as much as a normal set even conspiracy+masques supply of foils should be much much smaller then a fall set(which is drafted alot). | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On October 08 2014 14:00 Judicator wrote: Krosan Grip maybe a turn slow and its not like that deck can't rebuild. Zealous Persecution may only net you 1 of their mana dorks (probably more likely it will once they see it), likewise if they go Carytid into Enchantment or Enchantment into mana dork you are still out of luck. This isn't something that you can hate out with some cards, ie - this isn't Twin, not even close. It's not the combo is easy to assemble (it is), it's the fact that deck is so resilient to spot disruption. You can't beat out their card draw when they're going through their deck so quickly with mono cantrips. If they probe you and only see 1 piece of disruption like Abrupt Decay for example, they will beat it fairly consistently. This isn't dredge level of I am playing Magic (debatable), but its pretty damn close since I wouldn't keep any hand without at least 2 pieces of spot disruption AND a fast clock (think faster than V. Clique) or a sustained disruption like Chalice. The biggest issue comes down to the fact that this deck can rebuild fairly quick since it has no interest in interacting unless it has to. No other deck in modern is like that, even Twin is just slow enough for decks to race it or out maneuver it. Likewise, how much are you willing to sack your other match ups just to be able to comfortably beat this deck. Remember that this deck can comfortably race affinity's faster draws while on the draw so its not like you have all day. I think the bolded part is my biggest concern with the deck. There is simply too many things to cause the deck to just accidentally fall into victory. All of the things that would normally hate don't actually hate, but slap it on the wrist and tell it "Not now". The talk about zealousing and pyros and what not is cute and fine, but there deck has so many redundant dorks that you'll need to have quite a few of them in your opener just to stay afloat, not even to try and get ahead in the board state he's trying to force. That said, I'd like to see it played at the PT. Just so Wizards is aware of how bonkers they have made this card. Almost every single article talking up the PT hasn't even mentioned this card set at all. Almost as though "It's not really going to happen if we ignore it." I HOPE that it at least makes it that far. | ||
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GoSuNamhciR
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deth2munkies
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