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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
July 15 2013 23:38 GMT
#8341
On July 16 2013 08:33 jrkirby wrote:
I kinda want to get into magic, but I don't want to spend a ton of money on it. I've been told that duel of the planeswalkers is only 10 dollars and has free online play, so I was thinking I would try that.

I considered playing MTGO, but to play that, you either have to spend a ton of money collecting cards to build decks, or you have to spend a couple dollars every time you enter a drafting tournament. One of my friends told me that planeswalkers is different, and doesn't have all those fees, so I think I'll get that instead.

What is the general opinion on planeswalkers here? Should I get it?

DotP is great as an introductory game and having fun while also being pretty cheap to boot. If you just want to try and see if it's your sort of thing I'd definitely recommend it. It's something I'd really have found useful when first starting this game.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 15 2013 23:54 GMT
#8342
Been testing Archangel in an Aristocrat Act2 shell, and loving it with blood artist triggers my souls and even blood artist himself become finishers.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
FryBender
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
July 16 2013 00:26 GMT
#8343
On July 16 2013 06:27 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 05:55 FryBender wrote:
So I just recently came back to Magic after being off of it for ~10 years (yes I consider playing magic just like using since last time I played it would often come down to food or magic and magic would sometimes win). But I promised myself no Magic Online. And I think without the convenience of literally being able to draft whenever I should be ok.

I went to a local prerelease this weekend and even though I couldn't do anything with the cards I got I did get a foil Scavenging Ooze which pretty much paid for the event already so I'm happy and just wanted to come here and brag about that plus I've been watching this thread for a while and jonesing for some Magic, and I can finally join the discussion.

Is Scavenging Ooze that valuable? You get one for buying Duel of the Planeswalkers.


SCG is buying it for $20.00 so it paid for the sealed event for me. I'm happy with that.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 16 2013 02:48 GMT
#8344
On July 16 2013 08:54 NotSorry wrote:
Been testing Archangel in an Aristocrat Act2 shell, and loving it with blood artist triggers my souls and even blood artist himself become finishers.


How is that deck right now? The few pilots I have played have been just average, and post-board the match up seems rougher for them after M14.
Get it by your hands...
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
July 16 2013 02:49 GMT
#8345
I just made a discovery which I wish I made a long time ago. Pauper is a fun format. The metagame is pretty intense and so many broken common combo's! I highly suggest if anyone wants to break into constructed and spend as little money as possible Pauper is the way to go in MTGO.
Brood War forever!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
July 16 2013 02:51 GMT
#8346
I was considering pauper for that very reason. Do you have any suggestions for how to get started with it?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
July 16 2013 02:56 GMT
#8347
On July 16 2013 11:51 micronesia wrote:
I was considering pauper for that very reason. Do you have any suggestions for how to get started with it?


http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnline.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/whatshappening

Search for the T8s of pauper dailies, find a deck that appears in (ideally multiple) T8s and copy it. I don't really know what the metagame looks like now, but monoblack was a pretty good cheap deck the last time I played. People also win with monogreen, monoblue, Cloudpost, and Kiln Fiend.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 03:00:45
July 16 2013 02:58 GMT
#8348
On July 16 2013 11:51 micronesia wrote:
I was considering pauper for that very reason. Do you have any suggestions for how to get started with it?


I just took a look at the types of decks that were being played in the dailies. and scoured through the decks to see which one would be fun, and which "expensive" commons I have the most of. I also google'd a few articles and watched a few youtube videos of the decks being played that caught my eye. Learning the match ups is probably the most important step and I haven't quite done that yet.

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pauper Will save you some time on looking for deck lists. (the price is usually the amount of tickets you will need to build the average deck of that style from scratch.)

I am playing Mono Blue Faeries since I love card advantage and having some control of the gameplay.
Brood War forever!
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
July 16 2013 03:01 GMT
#8349
Thanks.

Which cards are legal in pauper? Is it the standard sets, modern sets? etc
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 03:05:33
July 16 2013 03:03 GMT
#8350
On July 16 2013 12:01 micronesia wrote:
Thanks.

Which cards are legal in pauper? Is it the standard sets, modern sets? etc


Pretty much any common/uncommon(if it was printed as a common during MTGO's existence) is legal. Except for maybe like 5 or 6 super dirty cards lol. Banning a common who would have thought!
https://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Resources.aspx?x=magic/rules/Pauper
Brood War forever!
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 16 2013 03:18 GMT
#8351
On July 16 2013 11:48 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 08:54 NotSorry wrote:
Been testing Archangel in an Aristocrat Act2 shell, and loving it with blood artist triggers my souls and even blood artist himself become finishers.


How is that deck right now? The few pilots I have played have been just average, and post-board the match up seems rougher for them after M14.

The deck is just so flexible and has so many routes to outplay people I don't see it going anywhere. Depending on what other random shit comes out I wouldn't be all too surprised to see the zombie core variant really shining, or even the BW midrange taking down some opens, of course still very early to tell as you never know what random stuff people come up with.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
July 16 2013 03:19 GMT
#8352
On July 16 2013 12:03 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 12:01 micronesia wrote:
Thanks.

Which cards are legal in pauper? Is it the standard sets, modern sets? etc


Pretty much any common/uncommon(if it was printed as a common during MTGO's existence) is legal. Except for maybe like 5 or 6 super dirty cards lol. Banning a common who would have thought!
https://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Resources.aspx?x=magic/rules/Pauper

The frustrating thing about pauper then is how you won't be familiar with some of your opponent's cards unless you are a devout magic player (in which case you probably aren't sticking to pauper!).

I would prefer a standard-pauper or something like that... I guess beggars can't be choosers though.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 16 2013 03:39 GMT
#8353
On July 16 2013 12:18 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 11:48 Judicator wrote:
On July 16 2013 08:54 NotSorry wrote:
Been testing Archangel in an Aristocrat Act2 shell, and loving it with blood artist triggers my souls and even blood artist himself become finishers.


How is that deck right now? The few pilots I have played have been just average, and post-board the match up seems rougher for them after M14.

The deck is just so flexible and has so many routes to outplay people I don't see it going anywhere. Depending on what other random shit comes out I wouldn't be all too surprised to see the zombie core variant really shining, or even the BW midrange taking down some opens, of course still very early to tell as you never know what random stuff people come up with.


Have you seen differences in what people have boarded against it when you were testing?
Get it by your hands...
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 16 2013 04:02 GMT
#8354
Seen more electrickerys in the last few days than any point in my life before, seen a few Lifebane zombies/Shrivel, other than that mostly the same ol Rest in Peace and whatnot.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
July 16 2013 05:38 GMT
#8355
I really want to make some sort of BW midrange deck with Shadowborn Demon but I don't think it will work. I really like the card though.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 16 2013 07:12 GMT
#8356
Invested in some Lilys. Nice addition to standard and one step closer to Modern =)
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 07:34:06
July 16 2013 07:33 GMT
#8357
I'm trying to make a modern mono-blue control deck. Seems that w/u/r if the way it is usually done in modern. Any suggestions of improvements? Link: http://www.mtgdeckbuilder.net/Decks/ViewDeck/716459

Also, for lol's, What would happen if there were no restriction / banned list in vintage: http://www.mtgdeckbuilder.net/Decks/ViewDeck/711751 (also the approximate deck price...)
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 16 2013 12:58 GMT
#8358
On July 16 2013 16:12 Shotcoder wrote:
Invested in some Lilys. Nice addition to standard and one step closer to Modern =)


How much that run you? :p

My Lilys are out of the binder at this point.
Get it by your hands...
Airact
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland366 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 15:35:17
July 16 2013 15:34 GMT
#8359
Now that people have been able to think about M14 limited a bit, how do you guys like it?


Personally this might just be the perfect opportunity for me to direct my draft moneys to buy some much needed fetches so I can finally get into Legacy (emphasis on Legacy as it's like the only thing aside limited and Highlander that's played over here) and Modern a bit.

Then again I probably have missed something deep in the set and once somebody points it out, I just start drafting again.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 15:46:42
July 16 2013 15:40 GMT
#8360
There's no money in this set. All of the money cards will come down soon so you really don't have that much time to draft money cards.

Edit:

Completely missed your point. I guess that's one way to go at it. It's core set draft so people usually take off for it anyways. This set seems extra bland since the keyword is indestructibility.

I don't know, but it seems like all of the the recent changes and this core set implies that Theros will be complicated on more than one level and Wizards is trying really hard to make that set palatable to everyone which Kamigawa wasn't at all.
Get it by your hands...
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