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Sverigevader
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden388 Posts
March 08 2014 10:28 GMT
#16121
I found a Tal Rasha source, but the damage roll is super low, like x-120. The possible rolls were up to 140 or something. The Chantodo source I have from pre 2.0 shows possible rolls up to 449 or something for the damage. Sup with that??
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Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-08 10:47:06
March 08 2014 10:43 GMT
#16122
Removed the link because it was actually pretty bad.

Basically, the problem is that the average damage was scaled back to account for level 70 items. ilvl70s should have the high average damage you are used to, but for now until exp release we are just screwed as far as legendaries and sets go. I am a WD and this is very annoying for me too. I have found four mojos and all have a top end of 140 damage, so they are essentially worthless compared to rares (decrease of roughly 10-20% dps). Your best bet is crafting one or just waiting for a nice drop. It does suck though because wizards and WDs would be much stronger with good average damage rolls on legendary off-hands. The rares aren't that bad though at least, I believe they can roll from like 30-400.
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 08 2014 10:52 GMT
#16123
On March 08 2014 19:43 Romance_us wrote:
Removed the link because it was actually pretty bad.

Basically, the problem is that the average damage was scaled back to account for level 70 items. ilvl70s should have the high average damage you are used to, but for now until exp release we are just screwed as far as legendaries and sets go. I am a WD and this is very annoying for me too. I have found four mojos and all have a top end of 140 damage, so they are essentially worthless compared to rares (decrease of roughly 10-20% dps). Your best bet is crafting one or just waiting for a nice drop. It does suck though because wizards and WDs would be much stronger with good average damage rolls on legendary off-hands. The rares aren't that bad though at least, I believe they can roll from like 30-400.

Legendary sources/mojo's right now are garbage if they don't bring along some gamebreaking effects(eg. +2 missile on mirrorball) that you can build around, and even then it might not make up for the dps loss.
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Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
March 08 2014 12:06 GMT
#16124
It's most likely a bug, legendary offhands are rolling a lv59 damage affix while yellow offhands can go way higher (250+ avg damge from what I can see in the AH).
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 08 2014 13:47 GMT
#16125
Yeah, doesn't sound plausible that the new lvl 70 offhands should do no more damage than the current lvl 60 ones. I assume lvl 70 weapons will do more damage and lvl 70 armour have more armour. Really don't see the reason why they'd consciously give lvl 70 off-hands same damage as lvl 60.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 08 2014 15:38 GMT
#16126
for item level and quality, does it matter which act i run?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
March 08 2014 17:01 GMT
#16127
On March 09 2014 00:38 LaNague wrote:
for item level and quality, does it matter which act i run?


Nope it's all the same, it just scales with your character level.
Sverigevader
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden388 Posts
March 08 2014 17:02 GMT
#16128
Is there any reason to play the game at the moment other than for fun?

Items from lvl 60 are obviously obsolete and will be changed quickly at 70. And I'm guessing that the experience gained after level 70 will be much much higher, so whatever you amount to now, you will be able to do much quicker after 70.

Right?
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DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
March 08 2014 17:08 GMT
#16129
On March 09 2014 02:02 Sverigevader wrote:
Is there any reason to play the game at the moment other than for fun?

Items from lvl 60 are obviously obsolete and will be changed quickly at 70. And I'm guessing that the experience gained after level 70 will be much much higher, so whatever you amount to now, you will be able to do much quicker after 70.

Right?

There is never any reason to play other then for fun. You keep your paragon exp the items you will switch out
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 08 2014 20:35 GMT
#16130
On March 09 2014 02:02 Sverigevader wrote:
Is there any reason to play the game at the moment other than for fun?

lol
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
March 08 2014 21:04 GMT
#16131
On March 08 2014 11:43 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:11 heartlxp wrote:
is anyone able to see +crit hit dmg for 1h weapons in their preferred stats on AH?

Blizzard took crit dmg and lifesteal away as searchable on the AH because no non-legendary items can drop with them anymore. Like they hate those stats so much they don't even want you to find old versions on the AH, it's really ridiculous.


ah thanks for clarifying
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 08 2014 23:14 GMT
#16132
what does quest reset do?

i reset after i killed diablo and did all the way up to butcher in hopes to get some nice loot for my troubles.
But that jerk dropped blues only. I was hoping to get a legendary for the act boss again, but he didnt even give me a rare.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
March 08 2014 23:39 GMT
#16133
On March 09 2014 08:14 LaNague wrote:
what does quest reset do?

i reset after i killed diablo and did all the way up to butcher in hopes to get some nice loot for my troubles.
But that jerk dropped blues only. I was hoping to get a legendary for the act boss again, but he didnt even give me a rare.


my understanding is if you reset, you are guaranteed a legendary from leoric only, then you gotta beat the whole thing to reset again
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 08 2014 23:53 GMT
#16134
On March 09 2014 08:14 LaNague wrote:
what does quest reset do?

i reset after i killed diablo and did all the way up to butcher in hopes to get some nice loot for my troubles.
But that jerk dropped blues only. I was hoping to get a legendary for the act boss again, but he didnt even give me a rare.

quest reset resets all of the quests. you have to play through the entire game again.

legends are only guaranteed if you are less than level 60. i think there is still a bug where you can reset quests and get legend off skeleton king even fter level 60. they are going to fix it (i.e., make diablo drop legend), but i dont know if they have yet.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 09 2014 00:53 GMT
#16135
oh ok.

well SK or diablo doesnt make a difference if you have to play trough the entire game anyways.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-09 01:11:53
March 09 2014 01:02 GMT
#16136
So I quite Diablo 3 about 2 months after release of the game, and I am now starting again in anticipation of the new addon. Is there anything I should do now before the addon comes out? Level this paragon thing? Or buy certain stuff while the auction house still exists?

Also do I have big disadvantages in the addon now compared to those that played all the time and geared up and got their paragon levels? Or is there some kind of reset when teh addon comes out?

Thanks in advance for any helpful answers.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 09 2014 01:42 GMT
#16137
On March 09 2014 10:02 Redox wrote:
So I quite Diablo 3 about 2 months after release of the game, and I am now starting again in anticipation of the new addon. Is there anything I should do now before the addon comes out? Level this paragon thing? Or buy certain stuff while the auction house still exists?

Also do I have big disadvantages in the addon now compared to those that played all the time and geared up and got their paragon levels? Or is there some kind of reset when teh addon comes out?

Thanks in advance for any helpful answers.


Basically everything in vanilla D3 will be obsoleted in RoS, so I wouldn't worry at all.

Level 70 gear completely eclipses level 60 (except for absolute BiS level 60 legendaries, which might barely match low-end 70 gear). Level 60 crafting materials can't be used for level 70 recipes, gems can drop 4-5(?) grades higher.

Gold will still be useful for crafting/enchanting, so you could stockpile, but it won't be a big deal. Paragon levels will carry over, but you get those fast enough, and the gains from those aren't enough to make or break a character.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 09 2014 08:14 GMT
#16138
On March 09 2014 10:42 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 10:02 Redox wrote:
So I quite Diablo 3 about 2 months after release of the game, and I am now starting again in anticipation of the new addon. Is there anything I should do now before the addon comes out? Level this paragon thing? Or buy certain stuff while the auction house still exists?

Also do I have big disadvantages in the addon now compared to those that played all the time and geared up and got their paragon levels? Or is there some kind of reset when teh addon comes out?

Thanks in advance for any helpful answers.


Basically everything in vanilla D3 will be obsoleted in RoS, so I wouldn't worry at all.

Level 70 gear completely eclipses level 60 (except for absolute BiS level 60 legendaries, which might barely match low-end 70 gear). Level 60 crafting materials can't be used for level 70 recipes, gems can drop 4-5(?) grades higher.

Gold will still be useful for crafting/enchanting, so you could stockpile, but it won't be a big deal. Paragon levels will carry over, but you get those fast enough, and the gains from those aren't enough to make or break a character.

Yes, don't think anything will matter much. The small things would be paragon levels (but probably you will get XP much faster at lvl 70 anyway, so what you get now will not matter much) and gold. Only other thing I can think of is that if you have good gear you will have an easier time getting up and farming at lvl 70, so you may be a few hours faster at the start...

But no, time spent now will mostly be "wasted" in the sense that you can improve your char equally much with a lot less time once the expansion is out.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 09 2014 09:00 GMT
#16139
if you are playing the game now to prepare for playing the game later, you are not doing it right. nothing you do now will matter when the expansion comes out.

it is only if you want a big epeen that it matters because you will be the first group of people to get max char, best gear, etc. you'll have that 15% advantage over everyone else buying it on the first day.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
March 09 2014 10:35 GMT
#16140
The only thing people currently have, that's gonna be useful in RoS is gold. Other than that no need to bother. So you can level new characters you wanna try, or go do some hc, complete challenges for achievements etc.
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