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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
March 10 2014 00:22 GMT
#16161
Does anyone know if the 100% legendary off of act bosses up to lvl 59 will extend to 69 after RoS?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 10 2014 01:40 GMT
#16162
I feel like this game has slowed down considerably since I played it that last time. Like, I take very little damage but it also takes me forever to kill anything. Playing on Master with a character that just got 60 and has no equip.
I have to say this makes the game really boring. I find myself watching TV while I rightclick a monster and wait for it to die eventually.
Off-season = best season
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 10 2014 01:53 GMT
#16163
On March 10 2014 10:40 Redox wrote:
I feel like this game has slowed down considerably since I played it that last time. Like, I take very little damage but it also takes me forever to kill anything. Playing on Master with a character that just got 60 and has no equip.
I have to say this makes the game really boring. I find myself watching TV while I rightclick a monster and wait for it to die eventually.


Sounds like you're playing well above your gear.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
March 10 2014 01:57 GMT
#16164
I agree. Kind of depends on what types of attacks you're using, but if you can't essentially 1- or 2-shot white packs, you're probably playing on too high of a difficulty level.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 02:39:19
March 10 2014 02:34 GMT
#16165
What is the point of playing on a lower difficulty when I already now literally never die? There is a reason I dont play on hardcore. And that is I want at least the possibility of dying. I mean there is almost no penalty for dying anyway, so why make it this difficult to die?

I remember when I played this game back in the beginning I played a full tank Barbarian and with that one I took much more damage and dished out much more damage than I now do with a witch doctor. And I died all the time. Now I never die on a too high difficulty. That is ridiculous.
Off-season = best season
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 10 2014 02:53 GMT
#16166
On March 10 2014 11:34 Redox wrote:
What is the point of playing on a lower difficulty when I already now literally never die? There is a reason I dont play on hardcore. And that is I want at least the possibility of dying. I mean there is almost no penalty for dying anyway, so why make it this difficult to die?

I remember when I played this game back in the beginning I played a full tank Barbarian and with that one I took much more damage and dished out much more damage than I now do with a witch doctor. And I died all the time. Now I never die on a too high difficulty. That is ridiculous.


So basically you went all tank, no damage and you're complaining that you character is all tank and no damage?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 03:01:14
March 10 2014 03:00 GMT
#16167
On March 10 2014 11:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 11:34 Redox wrote:
What is the point of playing on a lower difficulty when I already now literally never die? There is a reason I dont play on hardcore. And that is I want at least the possibility of dying. I mean there is almost no penalty for dying anyway, so why make it this difficult to die?

I remember when I played this game back in the beginning I played a full tank Barbarian and with that one I took much more damage and dished out much more damage than I now do with a witch doctor. And I died all the time. Now I never die on a too high difficulty. That is ridiculous.


So basically you went all tank, no damage and you're complaining that you character is all tank and no damage?

No? I said the contrary. When I went all tank, no damage (back then like 2 months after release) I received much more damage and dished out much more damage than I do now as I am not playing a tank.
Off-season = best season
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
March 10 2014 03:29 GMT
#16168
On March 10 2014 12:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 11:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On March 10 2014 11:34 Redox wrote:
What is the point of playing on a lower difficulty when I already now literally never die? There is a reason I dont play on hardcore. And that is I want at least the possibility of dying. I mean there is almost no penalty for dying anyway, so why make it this difficult to die?

I remember when I played this game back in the beginning I played a full tank Barbarian and with that one I took much more damage and dished out much more damage than I now do with a witch doctor. And I died all the time. Now I never die on a too high difficulty. That is ridiculous.


So basically you went all tank, no damage and you're complaining that you character is all tank and no damage?

No? I said the contrary. When I went all tank, no damage (back then like 2 months after release) I received much more damage and dished out much more damage than I do now as I am not playing a tank.


Well, you must be doing something seriously wrong, because you barely need any DPS to smash through Masters, even with self-found gear.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 10 2014 05:52 GMT
#16169
On March 10 2014 10:40 Redox wrote:
I feel like this game has slowed down considerably since I played it that last time. Like, I take very little damage but it also takes me forever to kill anything. Playing on Master with a character that just got 60 and has no equip.
I have to say this makes the game really boring. I find myself watching TV while I rightclick a monster and wait for it to die eventually.

show us your char. sounds like you have stacked ehp instead of dps.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
March 10 2014 08:39 GMT
#16170
On March 10 2014 04:40 vvSiegvv wrote:
Is there any site / resource available where you can look at decent builds for the classes? Back when i played after release I followed the threads here on TL, but im looking for WD builds and the WD thread hasn't been active since last September. I'm just messing around to see some of the changes before determining if I want to buy the expansion or not, but would be nice to see what builds people are playing with.

Thanks in advance!

My build I think is pretty similar to what most people run.

Spam Spirit Barrage Well of Souls, (you must have Rush of Essence as a passive).
The dogs help keep me alive.
Spirit walk to get out of danger and get mana back if you are empty.
Soul harvest for extra intelligence, i use soul to waste so I don't have to refresh it too often.
BBV with Slam Dance for packs.
Fire bats is good with large packs of units and if you are waiting for your RoE to give you back some mana.

Passives are optional depending on your skills, except for Rush of Essence.

I dump my Paragon points into Life on Hit, Vita/Int, Life per second and Critical Hit Damage.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 10 2014 10:14 GMT
#16171
On March 10 2014 14:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 10:40 Redox wrote:
I feel like this game has slowed down considerably since I played it that last time. Like, I take very little damage but it also takes me forever to kill anything. Playing on Master with a character that just got 60 and has no equip.
I have to say this makes the game really boring. I find myself watching TV while I rightclick a monster and wait for it to die eventually.

show us your char. sounds like you have stacked ehp instead of dps.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Redox-2105/hero/36679536
Off-season = best season
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 10 2014 10:34 GMT
#16172
Yes that is very low DPS, and enough toughness at least for the first two or three torments. I would recommend what to look for of the ah back in the good old days, but now you can't do more than farm and hope for ups. :/ get crit chance and crit damage on as many pieces as you can if you don't have it already. You should be able to reach at least 100k DPS in reasonable time, specially if you can get someone to carry you on higher difficulties.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
March 10 2014 12:08 GMT
#16173
Just craft some items, they will probably be better than what you have.
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carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 12:26:24
March 10 2014 12:24 GMT
#16174
On March 10 2014 19:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 14:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 10 2014 10:40 Redox wrote:
I feel like this game has slowed down considerably since I played it that last time. Like, I take very little damage but it also takes me forever to kill anything. Playing on Master with a character that just got 60 and has no equip.
I have to say this makes the game really boring. I find myself watching TV while I rightclick a monster and wait for it to die eventually.

show us your char. sounds like you have stacked ehp instead of dps.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Redox-2105/hero/36679536


You might find steamrolling mobs on a lower difficulty to be just as boring as unloading on the same mobs for an eternity until they die, but your weapon is a major DPS bottleneck right now and there's not much you can do about that other than farming (or buying a budget rare upgrade off the AH before it shuts down, which is what I did when I came back). You can craft gear as recommended by others; best slots for that are probably gloves/shoulders/bracers.

Some recommended farming:
- Full playthrough (with reset quests) on Normal, speedrunning for legendaries; kill only champions/elites/goblins/bosses. Guaranteed legendary off SK. You can also just do this on your preferred difficulty if you find it more fun; I do T1 with 150k profile DPS.
- Core of Arreat (set quest to Heart of Sin, take waypoint, run to entry to Azmodan for checkpoint, TP and leave game, restart game, take portal, run backwards through to waypoint opening the chests and killing champions/elites/goblins, take waypoint, leave game, restart, take portal, etc.)
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 10 2014 13:05 GMT
#16175
On March 10 2014 19:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 14:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 10 2014 10:40 Redox wrote:
I feel like this game has slowed down considerably since I played it that last time. Like, I take very little damage but it also takes me forever to kill anything. Playing on Master with a character that just got 60 and has no equip.
I have to say this makes the game really boring. I find myself watching TV while I rightclick a monster and wait for it to die eventually.

show us your char. sounds like you have stacked ehp instead of dps.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Redox-2105/hero/36679536

Another point:
DPS for all chars relies heavily on the crit chance + crit damage combo, which will multiply your damage a few times. However, crit chance is only good when you have crit damage, and crit damage is only good when you have crit chance, so as you have neither, it may not show up as a big upgrade on the first item you get it on. So make sure to get crit chance on as many as possible (preferably all) of both rings, gloves, ammy, off-hand and helm. Also get as much crit damage as you can get (without cutting too much into crit chance). Crit damage rolls on rings, ammy, gloves and weapon. Also a socket in the weapon is a big plus, as you can get a lot more crit damage.

Your off-hand has particular room for improvement, and I think it is because they are bugged in loot 2.0. Likely you can find muuuuch better on the AH (which will be pre-loot 2.0) for cheap. Just go for high average damage and like 8%+ crit chance.

You should be able to find a better weapon as well. If you get crit damage and/or socket, that is worth like 50-100 dps each, so a weapon with 950 dps, socket and 65% crit damage is likely better than a 1050 weapon with no crit damage or socket.

Compare to my char to see a bit what you are aiming for. It's a wizard, but principle is the same. I have about same toughness as you, but a lot more DPS, and it is all but slow to play. I am probably too fragile for my dps though. but that is a different story.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-10 13:11:48
March 10 2014 13:08 GMT
#16176
On March 10 2014 22:05 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 19:14 Redox wrote:
On March 10 2014 14:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 10 2014 10:40 Redox wrote:
I feel like this game has slowed down considerably since I played it that last time. Like, I take very little damage but it also takes me forever to kill anything. Playing on Master with a character that just got 60 and has no equip.
I have to say this makes the game really boring. I find myself watching TV while I rightclick a monster and wait for it to die eventually.

show us your char. sounds like you have stacked ehp instead of dps.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Redox-2105/hero/36679536

Another point:
DPS for all chars relies heavily on the crit chance + crit damage combo, which will multiply your damage a few times. However, crit chance is only good when you have crit damage, and crit damage is only good when you have crit chance, so as you have neither, it may not show up as a big upgrade on the first item you get it on. So make sure to get crit chance on as many as possible (preferably all) of both rings, gloves, ammy, off-hand and helm. Also get as much crit damage as you can get (without cutting too much into crit chance). Crit damage rolls on rings, ammy, gloves and weapon. Also a socket in the weapon is a big plus, as you can get a lot more crit damage.

Your off-hand has particular room for improvement, and I think it is because they are bugged in loot 2.0. Likely you can find muuuuch better on the AH (which will be pre-loot 2.0) for cheap. Just go for high average damage and like 8%+ crit chance.

You should be able to find a better weapon as well. If you get crit damage and/or socket, that is worth like 50-100 dps each, so a weapon with 950 dps, socket and 65% crit damage is likely better than a 1050 weapon with no crit damage or socket.

Compare to my char to see a bit what you are aiming for. It's a wizard, but principle is the same. I have about same toughness as you, but a lot more DPS, and it is all but slow to play. I am probably too fragile for my dps though. but that is a different story.

Well I know that the equip is crap, lets not overanalyze things.

I did not itemize in any direction, that is just the stuff I picked up while leveling to 60.
Off-season = best season
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
March 10 2014 14:36 GMT
#16177
The game does seem to drop more ehp stuff than dps stuff. My DH, the squishiest char I had before loot 2.0, is still at around 140k dps. My pre-patch dps was probably higher. My toughness is now at 800k+. I've just been upgrading without anything specific in mind.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 10 2014 16:39 GMT
#16178
is there a page where i can see the possible roll ranges for uniques?


i just got a kridershot and want to see how good it is.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
March 10 2014 17:10 GMT
#16179
On March 10 2014 22:08 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 22:05 Cascade wrote:
On March 10 2014 19:14 Redox wrote:
On March 10 2014 14:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 10 2014 10:40 Redox wrote:
I feel like this game has slowed down considerably since I played it that last time. Like, I take very little damage but it also takes me forever to kill anything. Playing on Master with a character that just got 60 and has no equip.
I have to say this makes the game really boring. I find myself watching TV while I rightclick a monster and wait for it to die eventually.

show us your char. sounds like you have stacked ehp instead of dps.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Redox-2105/hero/36679536

Another point:
DPS for all chars relies heavily on the crit chance + crit damage combo, which will multiply your damage a few times. However, crit chance is only good when you have crit damage, and crit damage is only good when you have crit chance, so as you have neither, it may not show up as a big upgrade on the first item you get it on. So make sure to get crit chance on as many as possible (preferably all) of both rings, gloves, ammy, off-hand and helm. Also get as much crit damage as you can get (without cutting too much into crit chance). Crit damage rolls on rings, ammy, gloves and weapon. Also a socket in the weapon is a big plus, as you can get a lot more crit damage.

Your off-hand has particular room for improvement, and I think it is because they are bugged in loot 2.0. Likely you can find muuuuch better on the AH (which will be pre-loot 2.0) for cheap. Just go for high average damage and like 8%+ crit chance.

You should be able to find a better weapon as well. If you get crit damage and/or socket, that is worth like 50-100 dps each, so a weapon with 950 dps, socket and 65% crit damage is likely better than a 1050 weapon with no crit damage or socket.

Compare to my char to see a bit what you are aiming for. It's a wizard, but principle is the same. I have about same toughness as you, but a lot more DPS, and it is all but slow to play. I am probably too fragile for my dps though. but that is a different story.

Well I know that the equip is crap, lets not overanalyze things.

I did not itemize in any direction, that is just the stuff I picked up while leveling to 60.

You can get some gear from me. Have a few decent non-account bound pieces. PM me your battle tag
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 10 2014 17:22 GMT
#16180
On March 11 2014 01:39 LaNague wrote:
is there a page where i can see the possible roll ranges for uniques?


i just got a kridershot and want to see how good it is.


just mouse over the item and hit alt, or maybe it's control actually.

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