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AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 13:44:20
May 25 2011 13:42 GMT
#1441
On May 25 2011 18:37 Kipsate wrote:
Alright, I am going to fire up Diablo 2 after I am done with my exams sometime after together with a friend, I will probbably be rolling an Amazon or a Sorc, However I have never played an Amazon before, does anyone have any usefull tips or builds which I could follow?

I know I could use google and stuff but it seems like alot of people here have extensive knowledge of the game, and I would really like some input. If people feel like I am derailing the D3 thread(and think that they will if they reply) feel free to PM me, if not post away.


Make a fishyzon
20 pts into lightning fury
20 pts into charged strike
20 pts into frozen arrow
and 20 pts into cold arrow
Relies HEAVILY on +skills, so plays rather similar to a sorc.

Remaining pts into pre-reqs, dump rest in the passive tree. Strafe/FA zon is another great build, but it will stall hardcore without a proper bow, not to mention being super lucky on charms (+dmg/AR)

@Spyfire: with a Maghar (outland orcs) skin the ressemblance is even closer. They just added facial hair.
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
May 25 2011 13:53 GMT
#1442
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 25 2011 22:42 AeroGear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 18:37 Kipsate wrote:
Alright, I am going to fire up Diablo 2 after I am done with my exams sometime after together with a friend, I will probbably be rolling an Amazon or a Sorc, However I have never played an Amazon before, does anyone have any usefull tips or builds which I could follow?

I know I could use google and stuff but it seems like alot of people here have extensive knowledge of the game, and I would really like some input. If people feel like I am derailing the D3 thread(and think that they will if they reply) feel free to PM me, if not post away.


Make a fishyzon
20 pts into lightning fury
20 pts into charged strike
20 pts into frozen arrow
and 20 pts into cold arrow
Relies HEAVILY on +skills, so plays rather similar to a sorc.

Remaining pts into pre-reqs, dump rest in the passive tree. Strafe/FA zon is another great build, but it will stall hardcore without a proper bow, not to mention being super lucky on charms (+dmg/AR)

@Spyfire: with a Maghar (outland orcs) skin the ressemblance is even closer. They just added facial hair.


I was joking btw, blizzards art style has been this way for all their games for a long time. its not just warcraft, and clearly the graphics are a great improvement.
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
May 25 2011 14:01 GMT
#1443
T_T DIABLO 3!! :D
when did they say the beta was going to launch? O_o
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
May 25 2011 14:19 GMT
#1444
my guess is, in weeks:

10: first invites

30:mass invites to stress servers

34: release
Vargarr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States9 Posts
May 25 2011 14:32 GMT
#1445
Woot I've been a fan of D2 for years, playing for a few months then taking a break and then getting back into it ^^ I remember playing d2 and then getting the expansion while I was living in cali. I can't wait for D3 :D
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
May 25 2011 14:59 GMT
#1446
I might be interested in playing d2 again is anyone wants to start fresh characters with me? What do you all think, anyone up for it?
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11905 Posts
May 25 2011 15:23 GMT
#1447
On May 25 2011 18:38 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 18:26 Liberate wrote:
[image loading]

You're welcome.


You seriously think Blizzard would make showing pubic hairs on a character? There's no way to do that by mistake either, so it'd have to be a deliberate act.


What, you mean that they don't start with naked people, and then put clothes on them?
Trineal
Profile Joined March 2011
United States41 Posts
May 25 2011 15:30 GMT
#1448
I loved d2 when I was little, even though I was too young to know what I was doing or even play it right. Can't wait for d3 (hope I can afford it >_>). Now that I'm older and wiser maybe I will even be able to build my char in a way that makes a little sense. Can't decide between playing a barb or a wizard. Wizard lines up better with my personality, but barbarians are just so damn fun ^_^
Imbalance: if you look at a unit from one race's perspective its "WTF" if you look at it from the other race's perspective its "FTW"
cdpham
Profile Joined April 2011
United States41 Posts
May 25 2011 19:37 GMT
#1449
Blizzard released some new information about Runestones that you use on your skills:

link

Make sure to check out the videos for some of the skills and how they look after they're modified. I don't know if they will have a different system for runewords like in d2x or if they will have them at all but this kind of reminds me of the glyph system from WoW.
Tili_us
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium44 Posts
May 25 2011 19:47 GMT
#1450
On May 26 2011 04:37 cdpham wrote:
Blizzard released some new information about Runestones that you use on your skills:

link

Make sure to check out the videos for some of the skills and how they look after they're modified. I don't know if they will have a different system for runewords like in d2x or if they will have them at all but this kind of reminds me of the glyph system from WoW.


No, runewords aren't in D3. Runes are only used with skills in D3. And it's awesome btw!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11905 Posts
May 25 2011 20:27 GMT
#1451
On May 26 2011 04:37 cdpham wrote:
Blizzard released some new information about Runestones that you use on your skills:

link

Make sure to check out the videos for some of the skills and how they look after they're modified. I don't know if they will have a different system for runewords like in d2x or if they will have them at all but this kind of reminds me of the glyph system from WoW.


Nah, this system is way cooler. In WoW you had at most one glyph per skill, and could only have a set amount of glyphs. So you just use the 3 best, and there is little choice. Using one Rune/Glyph per skill and have a choice of which to use, preferably with not one being the ultimate best, makes for more customisability (Is this even a word?)
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
May 25 2011 20:35 GMT
#1452
Fuck, I just gave in after months of holding back and re-installed Diablo 2. The Runestones videos broke me.

There goes what little social life I had.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
May 25 2011 20:44 GMT
#1453
On May 26 2011 05:27 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 04:37 cdpham wrote:
Blizzard released some new information about Runestones that you use on your skills:

link

Make sure to check out the videos for some of the skills and how they look after they're modified. I don't know if they will have a different system for runewords like in d2x or if they will have them at all but this kind of reminds me of the glyph system from WoW.


Nah, this system is way cooler. In WoW you had at most one glyph per skill, and could only have a set amount of glyphs. So you just use the 3 best, and there is little choice. Using one Rune/Glyph per skill and have a choice of which to use, preferably with not one being the ultimate best, makes for more customisability (Is this even a word?)


Well, rather than picking the best 3 of 10 (give or take), three times in WoW, you pick the best 1 of 5, seven times. They look pretty cool except the Golden rune ones that reduce the resource cost. Not sure why they'd bother to put those in. They know nobody enjoys them as much as other cool effects.
indigoawareness
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovakia273 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 20:45:24
May 25 2011 20:44 GMT
#1454
It seems to me that there is a pretty clear heirarchy of runes. Crimson and Indigo runes seem to be by far the best as they increase output. I'm sure all are just fine and in certain builds/situations could be exceptional but it seems like there is a gradient of effectiveness. Makes sense, diablo is built on somethings being better (and rarer) then others. Ultimately, I think we'll see in the end game everyone wanting the same runes for the samethings, which is not unexpected.
To sleep, perchance to dream.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 25 2011 22:30 GMT
#1455
On May 26 2011 05:44 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 05:27 Simberto wrote:
On May 26 2011 04:37 cdpham wrote:
Blizzard released some new information about Runestones that you use on your skills:

link

Make sure to check out the videos for some of the skills and how they look after they're modified. I don't know if they will have a different system for runewords like in d2x or if they will have them at all but this kind of reminds me of the glyph system from WoW.


Nah, this system is way cooler. In WoW you had at most one glyph per skill, and could only have a set amount of glyphs. So you just use the 3 best, and there is little choice. Using one Rune/Glyph per skill and have a choice of which to use, preferably with not one being the ultimate best, makes for more customisability (Is this even a word?)


Well, rather than picking the best 3 of 10 (give or take), three times in WoW, you pick the best 1 of 5, seven times. They look pretty cool except the Golden rune ones that reduce the resource cost. Not sure why they'd bother to put those in. They know nobody enjoys them as much as other cool effects.


I hope they're more tactical than that and certain areas and encounters will favor rune x which you'll need to change out depending on where you're headed or what you're doing. It's kinda impossible to not have a best though unless the effect is useless like changing the color of a missile.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
May 25 2011 22:33 GMT
#1456
On May 26 2011 07:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 05:44 Bibdy wrote:
On May 26 2011 05:27 Simberto wrote:
On May 26 2011 04:37 cdpham wrote:
Blizzard released some new information about Runestones that you use on your skills:

link

Make sure to check out the videos for some of the skills and how they look after they're modified. I don't know if they will have a different system for runewords like in d2x or if they will have them at all but this kind of reminds me of the glyph system from WoW.


Nah, this system is way cooler. In WoW you had at most one glyph per skill, and could only have a set amount of glyphs. So you just use the 3 best, and there is little choice. Using one Rune/Glyph per skill and have a choice of which to use, preferably with not one being the ultimate best, makes for more customisability (Is this even a word?)


Well, rather than picking the best 3 of 10 (give or take), three times in WoW, you pick the best 1 of 5, seven times. They look pretty cool except the Golden rune ones that reduce the resource cost. Not sure why they'd bother to put those in. They know nobody enjoys them as much as other cool effects.


I hope they're more tactical than that and certain areas and encounters will favor rune x which you'll need to change out depending on where you're headed or what you're doing. It's kinda impossible to not have a best though unless the effect is useless like changing the color of a missile.


If the Runes end up being random drops, which is more than likely, I doubt you'll have the luxury of just swapping things out when necessary. What is the best choice for one build, may not be the best for another, though. Like if your selection of spells are very powerful in single-target boss fights, but you want more AOE farming, you could apply some Indigo runes on one of your more spammable spells.
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 22:45:53
May 25 2011 22:38 GMT
#1457
I think most of the runestones look pretty useful except for the golden runestones, unless each resource system is more limited than I'm predicting. I also hope that the higher end runestones are quite rare so that they don't become worthless and easily interchangable without a care.

Edit: I just watched the videos showing off some examples...and holy shit I'm seriously pumped for this game now. Arrgghhh...and I will probably have to wait like 8 months or so before I can actually play it

Edit #2: lol @ Witch Doctor's alabaster option.
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
May 25 2011 22:39 GMT
#1458
On May 26 2011 05:44 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 05:27 Simberto wrote:
On May 26 2011 04:37 cdpham wrote:
Blizzard released some new information about Runestones that you use on your skills:

link

Make sure to check out the videos for some of the skills and how they look after they're modified. I don't know if they will have a different system for runewords like in d2x or if they will have them at all but this kind of reminds me of the glyph system from WoW.


Nah, this system is way cooler. In WoW you had at most one glyph per skill, and could only have a set amount of glyphs. So you just use the 3 best, and there is little choice. Using one Rune/Glyph per skill and have a choice of which to use, preferably with not one being the ultimate best, makes for more customisability (Is this even a word?)


Well, rather than picking the best 3 of 10 (give or take), three times in WoW, you pick the best 1 of 5, seven times. They look pretty cool except the Golden rune ones that reduce the resource cost. Not sure why they'd bother to put those in. They know nobody enjoys them as much as other cool effects.


Gotta disagree with you there: Golden rune = more spamming of skills = pew pew!
(though in general I'd always go for the crowd control)

My first class is definitely going to be the witch doctor, can't wait, and for the witch doctor runes I think I'd pick the Golden one just because I like the idea of plaguing enemies with DoT so I can strafe around doing other things while I wait for them to die
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
May 25 2011 22:50 GMT
#1459
On May 26 2011 07:39 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 05:44 Bibdy wrote:
On May 26 2011 05:27 Simberto wrote:
On May 26 2011 04:37 cdpham wrote:
Blizzard released some new information about Runestones that you use on your skills:

link

Make sure to check out the videos for some of the skills and how they look after they're modified. I don't know if they will have a different system for runewords like in d2x or if they will have them at all but this kind of reminds me of the glyph system from WoW.


Nah, this system is way cooler. In WoW you had at most one glyph per skill, and could only have a set amount of glyphs. So you just use the 3 best, and there is little choice. Using one Rune/Glyph per skill and have a choice of which to use, preferably with not one being the ultimate best, makes for more customisability (Is this even a word?)


Well, rather than picking the best 3 of 10 (give or take), three times in WoW, you pick the best 1 of 5, seven times. They look pretty cool except the Golden rune ones that reduce the resource cost. Not sure why they'd bother to put those in. They know nobody enjoys them as much as other cool effects.


Gotta disagree with you there: Golden rune = more spamming of skills = pew pew!
(though in general I'd always go for the crowd control)

My first class is definitely going to be the witch doctor, can't wait, and for the witch doctor runes I think I'd pick the Golden one just because I like the idea of plaguing enemies with DoT so I can strafe around doing other things while I wait for them to die


TheRealPaciFist taking the pacifist way of fighting?

My brother use to love the necromancer. I hated it. Far too slow. Having to constantly summon an re-summon stuff was so pointless to me. Besides I liked the dps of assassins too much.

I've always like the idea of being high damage output with fragility of life.

Anyway imo, nothing beats 'bitch slapping' demons in the face.
aruno, arunoaj, aruno_aj | Those are my main aliases
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
May 25 2011 22:58 GMT
#1460
On May 26 2011 07:50 Aruno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2011 07:39 TheRealPaciFist wrote:
On May 26 2011 05:44 Bibdy wrote:
On May 26 2011 05:27 Simberto wrote:
On May 26 2011 04:37 cdpham wrote:
Blizzard released some new information about Runestones that you use on your skills:

link

Make sure to check out the videos for some of the skills and how they look after they're modified. I don't know if they will have a different system for runewords like in d2x or if they will have them at all but this kind of reminds me of the glyph system from WoW.


Nah, this system is way cooler. In WoW you had at most one glyph per skill, and could only have a set amount of glyphs. So you just use the 3 best, and there is little choice. Using one Rune/Glyph per skill and have a choice of which to use, preferably with not one being the ultimate best, makes for more customisability (Is this even a word?)


Well, rather than picking the best 3 of 10 (give or take), three times in WoW, you pick the best 1 of 5, seven times. They look pretty cool except the Golden rune ones that reduce the resource cost. Not sure why they'd bother to put those in. They know nobody enjoys them as much as other cool effects.


Gotta disagree with you there: Golden rune = more spamming of skills = pew pew!
(though in general I'd always go for the crowd control)

My first class is definitely going to be the witch doctor, can't wait, and for the witch doctor runes I think I'd pick the Golden one just because I like the idea of plaguing enemies with DoT so I can strafe around doing other things while I wait for them to die


TheRealPaciFist taking the pacifist way of fighting?

My brother use to love the necromancer. I hated it. Far too slow. Having to constantly summon an re-summon stuff was so pointless to me. Besides I liked the dps of assassins too much.

I've always like the idea of being high damage output with fragility of life.

Anyway imo, nothing beats 'bitch slapping' demons in the face.


lol, I didn't think of that.

Summons can be fun, or they can be a chore. Technically, when you play a wizard you're constantly having to recast spells you've already casted, but the thing is, casting those spells is fun. I'm hoping the witch doctor will have a lot of fun quirky spells and summons in his arsenal.

Of course, I'll probably make one of each character right off the bat and play a bit with all of them, just some more than others... actually taking all the characters far would be too much drain on schoolwork and social life ^^
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
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