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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 24 2011 23:18 GMT
#1421
I actually extended 1h+shield versus dual wielding to include 2h weapons, but I suppose that doesn't make much sense logically (it does cognitively in my mind). It's just a natural fallacy that has plagued a lot of games, less so for diablo, but torchlight for instance has a huge problem where 2h weapons are useless because they do just as much damage as 1h, but you can use two 1h...

For a character skilled around using two weapons naturally, dual wielding is optimal, but is there not another build you can play where 1h+shield is more optimal? Using a 1h and shield is better for more of the builds than dual wielding/2hander. I'm pretty sure you can agree with this which is what I was getting at all along. I'm not good at putting it on paper; I am well aware of that.

When I said I hadn't played since 1.09 that is slightly misleading. I haven't been active around the top of the ladder since those days, but I have played casually for a few of the seasons post skill synergy. Not everyone was cheating back then, but if you polled people I bet the vast majority of them were map hacking. There was no reason not to map hack back then unless you had some moral obligation to not do so. Maybe not duping directly, but almost everybody was making use of the duped items just from the nature of trading.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 24 2011 23:28 GMT
#1422
On May 25 2011 08:14 Rakanishu2 wrote:
Favorite act in D2? Gotta be Act 2. Everyone's least favorite? Act 3. Learn from this blizzard! Don't make tiny enemies that constantly run from you at mock 3! NO DEAD ENDS IN THE SWAMP!


Am I the only one who loved Act 4?
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Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
May 24 2011 23:30 GMT
#1423
Looking at the screen shots of the female monk. I've decided that, female monks are the most like assassins of D2, Thus I will pick them for my hero.
aruno, arunoaj, aruno_aj | Those are my main aliases
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 24 2011 23:50 GMT
#1424
On May 25 2011 08:03 gosublade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 07:21 Barrin wrote:
Do you not realize that there are only two classes that even have the option of dual wielding? It's like you ignore this fact while putting the 1h+shield vs dual wield in the context of all of the classes together. No. Just two classes we're looking at here.

Fury barbs are always better dual wielding instead of 1h+shielding.
WW assassins are always better dual wielding instead of 1h+shielding.
Hybrid assassins are always better dual wielding instead of 1h+shielding.
Melee assassins in general are always better dual wielding instead of 1h+shield.

Fury babs got raped in pvp
WW assas got raped in pvp
Hybrid assas got raped in pvp

Melee assas got raped in pvp


Overall, I explained pretty clearly why weapon+shield is better. And I stated everything at a pvp point of view since with any little skill you can rape everything in pve with /players 8 np.


This proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
Hi.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
May 25 2011 00:05 GMT
#1425
I'm really surprised by the amount of people here who actually are into Diablo2 PvP.

On the list of games I'd consider playing competitively... it wouldn't even be on that list
Kevmeister @ Dota2
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
May 25 2011 00:09 GMT
#1426
Anyone heard anything about a beta yet?
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Rakanishu2
Profile Joined May 2009
United States475 Posts
May 25 2011 00:29 GMT
#1427
On May 25 2011 09:05 FliedLice wrote:
I'm really surprised by the amount of people here who actually are into Diablo2 PvP.

On the list of games I'd consider playing competitively... it wouldn't even be on that list


Gotta agree here, PvP in D2 was a bit of a mess. Hopefully they can make it more solid this time around. It was still pretty fun, however.
10 G's in the packet and I'm ready to roll, on fire like a rocket and I'm ready to blow
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 00:46:26
May 25 2011 00:46 GMT
#1428
On May 25 2011 08:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 08:14 Rakanishu2 wrote:
Favorite act in D2? Gotta be Act 2. Everyone's least favorite? Act 3. Learn from this blizzard! Don't make tiny enemies that constantly run from you at mock 3! NO DEAD ENDS IN THE SWAMP!


Am I the only one who loved Act 4?


I loved Act 4...honestly I hated Act 2...at least the desert part of it, but once you got to tombs or arcane sanctuary it was a lot of fun. Act 3 was also terrible because of those stupid little idiots, but once you got to Kurast Bazzar or w/e it wasn't so bad, and durance of hate was good.

Anywho, I'd rank the acts as follows:

Act 4
Act 1
Act 5
Act 2
Act 3
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
May 25 2011 00:49 GMT
#1429
And about the PvP of D2...I mean blizzard never even tried to balance the PvP aspects of D2...they just threw in a duel feature and that was it. They didn't give two shits about PvP so why should anyone expect it to be balanced.

As for D3, they seem to care a little bit more, but again, it's not their focus. I could care less though, PvP can get old after a while.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 01:25:37
May 25 2011 01:15 GMT
#1430
On May 25 2011 09:46 Bairemuth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 08:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 25 2011 08:14 Rakanishu2 wrote:
Favorite act in D2? Gotta be Act 2. Everyone's least favorite? Act 3. Learn from this blizzard! Don't make tiny enemies that constantly run from you at mock 3! NO DEAD ENDS IN THE SWAMP!


Am I the only one who loved Act 4?


I loved Act 4...honestly I hated Act 2...at least the desert part of it, but once you got to tombs or arcane sanctuary it was a lot of fun. Act 3 was also terrible because of those stupid little idiots, but once you got to Kurast Bazzar or w/e it wasn't so bad, and durance of hate was good.

Anywho, I'd rank the acts as follows:

Act 4
Act 1
Act 5
Act 2
Act 3


Personally i'd put Act 1 above 4, because while Act 4 was the most awesome in terms of location and storyline, it was much too short, especially since you could ignore a large chunk of the first two areas. That combined with the rush of defeating your first end chapter boss.
Other than that, Act 2 had those lightning bugs and the annoying jumping cats, similar to how annoying the imps in Act 5 were, except worse, makes it rank lower.
And Act 3 only had to be itself. True that once you got into Kurast or some of the caves along the way it was better, but that area onwards usually turned out to be the shorter half of the chapter.

And why are people saying dual weapons is worse than 1H + shield? any weapon with life/mana steal outclassed a shield any day... Being stuck shield blocking in PvE sucked, and in PvP you get twice the attacks in, forcing the 1H + shield character to block much more often.

Shields were good for the resistance sockets though, I assume socketing possibilities is the reason for this

On May 25 2011 07:21 Barrin wrote:
That said, it's interesting how nobody is refuting what I'm saying. Not that you necessarily should: I am indeed telling the truth. But I'm not telling the whole truth. The whole truth is that yes 1h+shield is a little too relatively strong in this game. But none of you really seem to be qualified to explain why. Still, it's not as bad as you seem to think.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Liberate
Profile Joined May 2011
126 Posts
May 25 2011 09:26 GMT
#1431
[image loading]

You're welcome.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 25 2011 09:29 GMT
#1432
not pubic hair, it's part of the loin cloth.
Hi.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 09:52:02
May 25 2011 09:37 GMT
#1433
Alright, I am going to fire up Diablo 2 after I am done with my exams sometime after together with a friend, I will probbably be rolling an Amazon or a Sorc, However I have never played an Amazon before, does anyone have any usefull tips or builds which I could follow?

I know I could use google and stuff but it seems like alot of people here have extensive knowledge of the game, and I would really like some input. If people feel like I am derailing the D3 thread(and think that they will if they reply) feel free to PM me, if not post away.
WriterXiao8~~
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 25 2011 09:38 GMT
#1434
On May 25 2011 18:26 Liberate wrote:
[image loading]

You're welcome.


You seriously think Blizzard would make showing pubic hairs on a character? There's no way to do that by mistake either, so it'd have to be a deliberate act.
Liberate
Profile Joined May 2011
126 Posts
May 25 2011 09:51 GMT
#1435
On May 25 2011 18:38 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 18:26 Liberate wrote:
[image loading]

You're welcome.


You seriously think Blizzard would make showing pubic hairs on a character? There's no way to do that by mistake either, so it'd have to be a deliberate act.


Ya think?
Liberate
Profile Joined May 2011
126 Posts
May 25 2011 09:51 GMT
#1436
On May 25 2011 18:29 d(O.o)a wrote:
not pubic hair, it's part of the loin cloth.


Please change your country to Romania.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
May 25 2011 09:53 GMT
#1437
On May 25 2011 18:51 Liberate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2011 18:29 d(O.o)a wrote:
not pubic hair, it's part of the loin cloth.


Please change your country to Romania.


Please change your posts to original.
Hi.
DreasonY
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden11 Posts
May 25 2011 10:05 GMT
#1438
On May 25 2011 09:09 ReachTheSky wrote:
Anyone heard anything about a beta yet?


coming in q3, as stated before
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 25 2011 10:13 GMT
#1439
That barbarian looks so WarCrafty
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
May 25 2011 13:41 GMT
#1440
On May 25 2011 19:13 Telcontar wrote:
That barbarian looks so WarCrafty


Seriously right? I mean can you even tell the difference?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I know I cant.
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