On July 09 2012 13:07 CamTSU wrote: Reposted from reddit, but this is the most well constructed criticism of the game's flaws that I've found so far, and I really think he articulated many of them well.
Hopefully we can pass this along and get it some exposure.
I laughed at how he complains about difficulty when he's simply undergeared. Then I stopped reading when he wanted to wade through enemies as though he's invulnerable. Sorry, only elite minions can do that. For the part that I read, he has some valid points, but the rest is just whining.
Right now as the game is itemized now, you can start inferno with gear ~15-20% of max, finish inferno at 30-40%. When you get to the 70-80%+ you damn well should be able to wade through monsters as if you were invulnerable. Hell was hard in D2 if you had no idea what you were doing, It also became faceroll if you did know what you were doing.
That's what he wanted to do... obviously he isn't gonna live very long doing that.
On July 09 2012 14:48 fishjie wrote:
On July 09 2012 13:53 Heh_ wrote:
On July 09 2012 13:07 CamTSU wrote: Reposted from reddit, but this is the most well constructed criticism of the game's flaws that I've found so far, and I really think he articulated many of them well.
Hopefully we can pass this along and get it some exposure.
I laughed at how he complains about difficulty when he's simply undergeared. Then I stopped reading when he wanted to wade through enemies as though he's invulnerable. Sorry, only elite minions can do that. For the part that I read, he has some valid points, but the rest is just whining.
Are you joking or did you not even read the post? His points are valid. Ps I don't think the game is hard. Act 1 was hard until I geared up on auction. Now its a joke. Act 3 is tough for me, but once I get more boring gear (cause the itemization is broken as mentioned in the post) it will be zzzz ez. Yet I find myself agreeing with the article.
Yes. Some of his points are valid. Some of his ain't. He comes off as another one who complains that he can't just 1a to victory, even after Blizzard nerfed Inferno to satisfy players like him. If he didn't whine about being undergeared, I would have agreed with much more of his post.
The problem is that the only way to beat the game is through 1a.
Terribly stupid game mechanics such as crowd control completely remove micro from the equation. Oh look arcane sentries I'm going to dodge them, OH WAIT I GOT FEARED. so. freaking. stupid. All crowd control affixes should be removed, period.
So instead I just gear up until I can get chain feared/frozen while being hit by desecration and plague and laugh at the damage. so yeah, 1a (good ol' tank and spank) is the only way to beat the game as a meelee. skill is thrown out the window due to how badly designed this game is.
i only have a barb, but i imagine other classes get hard countered by bs such as reflect damage. pretty sure that's an insta death for DH if they're not careful. in d2 vs iron maiden you could be smart and switch into a weapon like a wand that did low physical damage but tons of elemental damage. or switch to a skill that did all elemental damage. no such luck in d3. i've seen mortar and vortex roflstomp glass cannons as well. like i said, completely stupid abilities that you cannot avoid via "skill" or micro. its like they tried to make the game an MMO.
AWFUL DESIGN.
That barb looks like fun as hell. Im gonna drop maybe 10 or so million on some barb gear and do this (well sorta).
Played the whole morning and killed like 20+ elites and ready to kill Cydea, then I got DC'ed. SO fucking pissed cuz all of the drops were trashes, I just wanted to kill bosses to hope getting better shits. But no, I got disconnected just like that. I might thinking about quitting the game...
and blizzard manages to fuck their customers in the ass once again, thank you stuck at authenticating screen. Brings me back to open beta. Seriously get your shit together man.
On July 10 2012 05:22 skatbone wrote: I'm assuming auctions are not suspended when the servers are down...I was going to try to snipe an upgrade. The time is quickly coming to pass.
On July 10 2012 05:06 Medrea wrote: Bosses are easier than the elite packs by design, you really want them to have more reward and less risk?
Consider how this multiplies out across the community.
Ghom would like to have a word with you.
All Ghom is is a test for your space control abilities. Go around the room counter clockwise, hitting all the corners and then his poison runs out when you get back to starting location.
On July 10 2012 05:06 Medrea wrote: Bosses are easier than the elite packs by design, you really want them to have more reward and less risk?
Consider how this multiplies out across the community.
Ghom would like to have a word with you.
All Ghom is is a test for your space control abilities. Go around the room counter clockwise, hitting all the corners and then his poison runs out when you get back to starting location.
Yeah that fatso is ez, just pull him around the room o.o
On July 10 2012 05:06 Medrea wrote: Bosses are easier than the elite packs by design, you really want them to have more reward and less risk?
Consider how this multiplies out across the community.
Ghom would like to have a word with you.
All Ghom is is a test for your space control abilities. Go around the room counter clockwise, hitting all the corners and then his poison runs out when you get back to starting location.
Yeah, and that's sadly (excluding scaling) harder than the great majority of elite packs.
Hey guys. I was curious about the profitability of crafting gems, so I made up a spreadsheet to help calculate how much they cost to build. I thought I would share it. Because the market price of Flawless Squares and Tomes of Secrets fluctuate so much and so often, the profit margin of selling gems fluctuates as well. Basically, you get the market price for flawless squares and tomes of secret, and plug those numbers into the blue boxes. The yellow column will then update your total gold cost for each level of gem, factoring in materials and artisan fee. The other columns will tell you the total number of mats needed to craft that level of gem.
On July 09 2012 13:07 CamTSU wrote: Reposted from reddit, but this is the most well constructed criticism of the game's flaws that I've found so far, and I really think he articulated many of them well.
Hopefully we can pass this along and get it some exposure.
I laughed at how he complains about difficulty when he's simply undergeared. Then I stopped reading when he wanted to wade through enemies as though he's invulnerable. Sorry, only elite minions can do that. For the part that I read, he has some valid points, but the rest is just whining.
Right now as the game is itemized now, you can start inferno with gear ~15-20% of max, finish inferno at 30-40%. When you get to the 70-80%+ you damn well should be able to wade through monsters as if you were invulnerable. Hell was hard in D2 if you had no idea what you were doing, It also became faceroll if you did know what you were doing.
That's what he wanted to do... obviously he isn't gonna live very long doing that.
On July 09 2012 14:48 fishjie wrote:
On July 09 2012 13:53 Heh_ wrote:
On July 09 2012 13:07 CamTSU wrote: Reposted from reddit, but this is the most well constructed criticism of the game's flaws that I've found so far, and I really think he articulated many of them well.
Hopefully we can pass this along and get it some exposure.
I laughed at how he complains about difficulty when he's simply undergeared. Then I stopped reading when he wanted to wade through enemies as though he's invulnerable. Sorry, only elite minions can do that. For the part that I read, he has some valid points, but the rest is just whining.
Are you joking or did you not even read the post? His points are valid. Ps I don't think the game is hard. Act 1 was hard until I geared up on auction. Now its a joke. Act 3 is tough for me, but once I get more boring gear (cause the itemization is broken as mentioned in the post) it will be zzzz ez. Yet I find myself agreeing with the article.
Yes. Some of his points are valid. Some of his ain't. He comes off as another one who complains that he can't just 1a to victory, even after Blizzard nerfed Inferno to satisfy players like him. If he didn't whine about being undergeared, I would have agreed with much more of his post.
The problem is that the only way to beat the game is through 1a.
Terribly stupid game mechanics such as crowd control completely remove micro from the equation. Oh look arcane sentries I'm going to dodge them, OH WAIT I GOT FEARED. so. freaking. stupid. All crowd control affixes should be removed, period.
So instead I just gear up until I can get chain feared/frozen while being hit by desecration and plague and laugh at the damage. so yeah, 1a (good ol' tank and spank) is the only way to beat the game as a meelee. skill is thrown out the window due to how badly designed this game is.
i only have a barb, but i imagine other classes get hard countered by bs such as reflect damage. pretty sure that's an insta death for DH if they're not careful. in d2 vs iron maiden you could be smart and switch into a weapon like a wand that did low physical damage but tons of elemental damage. or switch to a skill that did all elemental damage. no such luck in d3. i've seen mortar and vortex roflstomp glass cannons as well. like i said, completely stupid abilities that you cannot avoid via "skill" or micro. its like they tried to make the game an MMO.
AWFUL DESIGN.
At its core, Diablo is a very simple game. Simplicity in its gameplay is one of the biggest reasons it became so popular. When a game is simple, there's a limit to how legitimately difficult developers can make it. And we can see this in inferno difficulty right now. The developers couldn't do much of anything except resort to extremely cheap, cheesy abilities and straight up gear checks.
There is little skill in the game. It's not the game you play when you want to showcase elite videogame skill. It's the game you play when you get cheesed 20 times in a row in SC2 ladder and need to bash something easy to take your frustration out on. The sooner developers and a certain very vocal segment of the player base understands this, the better.
To me, D2 became more fun as I went from normal to hell difficulty. D3 is the opposite. The gear grind to get adequately geared for later acts in inferno is just mind numbingly boring. It's funny also that they want people to farm elite/champion packs while they are the least fun encounters in the game because of their design.
EPT
