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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
July 07 2012 22:13 GMT
#13141
On July 08 2012 07:02 heishe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 06:32 Medrea wrote:
Why would you connect monitors and turn them on?

Botting is all about efficiency. Its not a fucking laser light show.


For debugging reasons, obviously. If something goes wrong, you can fix it.


At least they could turn the screens off.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 07 2012 22:30 GMT
#13142
maybe they have the screens on just to take that photo
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 07 2012 22:48 GMT
#13143
On July 08 2012 07:13 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 07:02 heishe wrote:
On July 08 2012 06:32 Medrea wrote:
Why would you connect monitors and turn them on?

Botting is all about efficiency. Its not a fucking laser light show.


For debugging reasons, obviously. If something goes wrong, you can fix it.


At least they could turn the screens off.


but then you cant see if there is a problem
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 23:40:58
July 07 2012 23:36 GMT
#13144
On July 08 2012 07:48 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 07:13 solidbebe wrote:
On July 08 2012 07:02 heishe wrote:
On July 08 2012 06:32 Medrea wrote:
Why would you connect monitors and turn them on?

Botting is all about efficiency. Its not a fucking laser light show.


For debugging reasons, obviously. If something goes wrong, you can fix it.


At least they could turn the screens off.


but then you cant see if there is a problem


Yes you can. No botter is without a monitoring program or script. Actually viewing the bots activity is incredibly uncommon. When you have 50 to 100 of these things, you dont run around a room looking at monitors all day.

This looks like a tech demonstration or something, not a complete setup.

EDIT: And if you DO have to inspect a worker, its from a central location through programs like teamviewer, you dont hook up a monitor to the worker >.<


On July 08 2012 07:30 UniversalSnip wrote:
maybe they have the screens on just to take that photo


Maybe, but thats generally a no no.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 08 2012 00:00 GMT
#13145
Obviously they dont only use the machines for d3. The monitors are not entirely necessary but certainly are not the 'proof' of them being fake.

Personally i am not surprised. Just do a quick google you will see many people are botting multiple copies of the game anyway by using mediocre personal computer.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 00:40:55
July 08 2012 00:35 GMT
#13146
There's other things that raise red flags.

Keyboards and optical mice for every worker. Who does that?

Every computer has a case instead of residing in a server rack. What?

Waste of space. Waste of money. Waste of heat.

Maybe its just a rich amateur trying it out. If it's real, thats the most ghetto rigged worker setup I have seen for its size.
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Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
July 08 2012 00:36 GMT
#13147
I'm kind of really really mind boggled how coding d3 bots would even work to get it to a satisfactory stage where they died as little as possible and could play properly/well etc.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 00:45:13
July 08 2012 00:37 GMT
#13148
Act 1 Inferno is very easy to bot. You wouldnt do anything else. You dont need to play well.

And if you are gold botting, you dont need combat stats at all.

EDIT: All 7's post count.
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 08 2012 01:11 GMT
#13149
On July 08 2012 09:35 Medrea wrote:
There's other things that raise red flags.

Keyboards and optical mice for every worker. Who does that?

Every computer has a case instead of residing in a server rack. What?

Waste of space. Waste of money. Waste of heat.

Maybe its just a rich amateur trying it out. If it's real, thats the most ghetto rigged worker setup I have seen for its size.


it's china, labour and other overhead costs are cheap...very cheap. whereas their product "gold" in this case is utilisation an internation market. so it doesn't even matter if they're wasting electricity or peripherals.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
July 08 2012 02:19 GMT
#13150
I have to wonder what's wrong now, I get frequent disconnects while playing this game. When I do a ping in console I have no hiccups so I don't think it's my end, and I play other games just fine.

But now I can barely go 20 minutes before I get disconnected from a game after extreme lag. Is anyone else experiencing a similar problem? I can't even farm more than about 7-9 Elites, and I can barely progress on my other classes.

I haven't been as disappointed with this game as many others yet, but now I'm starting to feel it. Hopefully it's just my end but nothing else shows signs of networking issues.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
July 08 2012 02:47 GMT
#13151
The past 2-3 days I've been semi frequently dropping to orange level (300-600) ping and occasionally red >600.

Has happened very few times before now, could be me / coincidence or server problems, not sure.
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
July 09 2012 02:25 GMT
#13152
So a 6 stat shoulder plan dropped for me (act 4, trash mob), should I sell it for 14.5 mill or use it to craft stuff? I currently have about 15 mill and then a few items that, if sold, would give me an additional 25-35 million. With this money, would it be profitable to craft 6 stat shoulders?
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 09 2012 02:59 GMT
#13153
On July 09 2012 11:25 javy925 wrote:
So a 6 stat shoulder plan dropped for me (act 4, trash mob), should I sell it for 14.5 mill or use it to craft stuff? I currently have about 15 mill and then a few items that, if sold, would give me an additional 25-35 million. With this money, would it be profitable to craft 6 stat shoulders?

If you wanna craft, pray hard to the RNG gods. The market has already been heavily saturated with crafted items. It's gonna take a small miracle to craft a "25-35 million item".
=Þ
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 04:00:20
July 09 2012 03:01 GMT
#13154
On July 09 2012 11:59 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 11:25 javy925 wrote:
So a 6 stat shoulder plan dropped for me (act 4, trash mob), should I sell it for 14.5 mill or use it to craft stuff? I currently have about 15 mill and then a few items that, if sold, would give me an additional 25-35 million. With this money, would it be profitable to craft 6 stat shoulders?

If you wanna craft, pray hard to the RNG gods. The market has already been heavily saturated with crafted items. It's gonna take a small miracle to craft a "25-35 million item".


just to clarify, I said I had 25-35 mill worth of items currently on the AH that, if sold, I could use to craft items. I mentioned this because I wasn't sure if 15 mill, which I currently have, is enough to craft shoulders.

Has anyone here crafted shoulders? If so, how many do you craft per batch to make a profit?

edit: went ahead and bought enough mats for 100 crafts, could be a big mistake but oh well
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 09 2012 03:03 GMT
#13155
On July 09 2012 12:01 javy925 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 11:59 Heh_ wrote:
On July 09 2012 11:25 javy925 wrote:
So a 6 stat shoulder plan dropped for me (act 4, trash mob), should I sell it for 14.5 mill or use it to craft stuff? I currently have about 15 mill and then a few items that, if sold, would give me an additional 25-35 million. With this money, would it be profitable to craft 6 stat shoulders?

If you wanna craft, pray hard to the RNG gods. The market has already been heavily saturated with crafted items. It's gonna take a small miracle to craft a "25-35 million item".


just to clarify, I said I had 25-35 mill worth of items currently on the AH that, if sold, I could use to craft items. I mentioned this because I wasn't sure if 15 mill, which I currently have, is enough to craft shoulders.

Okay I read that wrong. If you really wanna craft, go check out shoulders on the AH and see if they're selling. See the stats on them, and then figure out how hard it takes to craft an item of similar value. I would guess that good items worth 10+ million appear at about 1% frequency
=Þ
CamTSU
Profile Joined April 2011
United States93 Posts
July 09 2012 04:07 GMT
#13156
Reposted from reddit, but this is the most well constructed criticism of the game's flaws that I've found so far, and I really think he articulated many of them well.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037265679

Hopefully we can pass this along and get it some exposure.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 09 2012 04:16 GMT
#13157
On July 09 2012 13:07 CamTSU wrote:
Reposted from reddit, but this is the most well constructed criticism of the game's flaws that I've found so far, and I really think he articulated many of them well.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037265679

Hopefully we can pass this along and get it some exposure.

The problem is, even if they wanted to fix everything to be more like D2 (removing being stuck in one act, on one quest chain, what have you) they screwed themselves in development. In the beginning, people were pissed that the chat box wasn't customizable at all. I mean, it looks just like the one from World of Warcraft for the most part, right? But Bashiok relayed that "the user interface wasn't designed to be modular." Guess what? That same design philosophy was most likely used to get the game done and out the door. It's probably stuck in its on-rails incarnation forever. That's the pessimist in me speaking and may not be even close to reality, but from the sounds of it, the developers or Jay Wilson himself have decided how you will play Diablo 3 and that's final.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 09 2012 04:53 GMT
#13158
On July 09 2012 13:07 CamTSU wrote:
Reposted from reddit, but this is the most well constructed criticism of the game's flaws that I've found so far, and I really think he articulated many of them well.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037265679

Hopefully we can pass this along and get it some exposure.

I laughed at how he complains about difficulty when he's simply undergeared. Then I stopped reading when he wanted to wade through enemies as though he's invulnerable. Sorry, only elite minions can do that. For the part that I read, he has some valid points, but the rest is just whining.
=Þ
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 09 2012 05:41 GMT
#13159
On July 09 2012 13:53 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 13:07 CamTSU wrote:
Reposted from reddit, but this is the most well constructed criticism of the game's flaws that I've found so far, and I really think he articulated many of them well.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037265679

Hopefully we can pass this along and get it some exposure.

I laughed at how he complains about difficulty when he's simply undergeared. Then I stopped reading when he wanted to wade through enemies as though he's invulnerable. Sorry, only elite minions can do that. For the part that I read, he has some valid points, but the rest is just whining.


Right now as the game is itemized now, you can start inferno with gear ~15-20% of max, finish inferno at 30-40%. When you get to the 70-80%+ you damn well should be able to wade through monsters as if you were invulnerable. Hell was hard in D2 if you had no idea what you were doing, It also became faceroll if you did know what you were doing.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
July 09 2012 05:48 GMT
#13160
On July 09 2012 13:53 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 13:07 CamTSU wrote:
Reposted from reddit, but this is the most well constructed criticism of the game's flaws that I've found so far, and I really think he articulated many of them well.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037265679

Hopefully we can pass this along and get it some exposure.

I laughed at how he complains about difficulty when he's simply undergeared. Then I stopped reading when he wanted to wade through enemies as though he's invulnerable. Sorry, only elite minions can do that. For the part that I read, he has some valid points, but the rest is just whining.


Are you joking or did you not even read the post? His points are valid. Ps I don't think the game is hard. Act 1 was hard until I geared up on auction. Now its a joke. Act 3 is tough for me, but once I get more boring gear (cause the itemization is broken as mentioned in the post) it will be zzzz ez. Yet I find myself agreeing with the article.
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