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AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 21:41:00
June 20 2012 21:40 GMT
#12561
Playing the game with a different character/skillbuild should actually be fun...
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 20 2012 21:43 GMT
#12562
On June 21 2012 06:40 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Playing the game with a different character/skillbuild should actually be fun...

dont know what game you were playing, but when my brothers and i played, we always used the cheat so that you can start at like level 30 or something like that. we didnt want to have to level up to that just so that we could try out new things. same goes for d3, i like the fact that i can change all my skills and try out new things without starting over on my character. leveling up a character so that you have all the abilities is tedious, and most of the fun skills are in the real high levels, not the lower ones.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
June 20 2012 21:44 GMT
#12563
On June 21 2012 06:40 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Playing the game with a different character/skillbuild should actually be fun...

Rerolling a character isn't fun.
=Þ
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
June 20 2012 22:41 GMT
#12564
On June 21 2012 06:30 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 05:51 BlackMagister wrote:
Ran into a random event Vendel the Armor Smith while farming Inferno Act 1. Confused that he can be killed even though you are supposed to be helping him as I did by collapsing some rocks on him O_O. Yep found the scabbard but the guy doesn't reappear his corpse is gone. Failed a random event, didn't even know it was possible.

Also has anyone ran into a bug where you can't see the elite's affix, happened to me once so far for one group.



Were they blue Moon Clan Shamans in the Highlands? Happened to me on three separate packs last night.

Yep. Thankfully the Shamans aren't that tough even when they are elites.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 21 2012 00:24 GMT
#12565
On June 21 2012 07:41 BlackMagister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 06:30 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On June 21 2012 05:51 BlackMagister wrote:
Ran into a random event Vendel the Armor Smith while farming Inferno Act 1. Confused that he can be killed even though you are supposed to be helping him as I did by collapsing some rocks on him O_O. Yep found the scabbard but the guy doesn't reappear his corpse is gone. Failed a random event, didn't even know it was possible.

Also has anyone ran into a bug where you can't see the elite's affix, happened to me once so far for one group.



Were they blue Moon Clan Shamans in the Highlands? Happened to me on three separate packs last night.

Yep. Thankfully the Shamans aren't that tough even when they are elites.


Nope, pretty much free stacks. The first time I thought that they were a trigger for an event or something, weird glitch :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
June 21 2012 04:08 GMT
#12566
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just was viewing Bnet forums, when i came across this gem.

in 50 minutes 9 pages of sheer hilarity before delete

Forever ZeNEX.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 07:19:06
June 21 2012 07:16 GMT
#12567
can someone give me eu normal act 3 light the beacons quest please??? kiirbie#1913 would really appreciate it. in return, i'll give any quest to you in us if you ever need
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
June 21 2012 07:23 GMT
#12568
I just started playing recently (right after RMAH came out).

What is a good alternative class to compliment Demon Hunter?

I am currently playing Demon Hunter (farming gold mainly) and it is going good so far. However, I'd like to farm with another class that farms elites + bosses

Since 1.03, are melee classes better at farming elites (in Inferno that is)? Should I try to get monk or barbarian to 60?

Also, what advantages do Witch Doctor or Wizard have over Demon Hunter in terms of farming (or overall)?

So, anyone have any suggestions as to which class seems best at farming elites? Personally, I'm fine with playing DH but I'd like to play another class to keep things from getting too dull.
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
June 21 2012 10:13 GMT
#12569
dammit dammit dammit

found my first decent legendary (andy's visage)

..it was str

fml
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 21 2012 14:53 GMT
#12570
On June 21 2012 06:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 06:10 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
On June 21 2012 05:54 Heh_ wrote:
On June 21 2012 05:37 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
On June 21 2012 04:11 crms wrote:
On June 21 2012 03:56 TheYango wrote:
On June 21 2012 01:42 Heh_ wrote:
Items aren't the only thing that people play for. Dying isn't irrelevant; it's incredibly frustrating to be chain-rezzing especially with the increasing death timers.

OK, so people play the game either for a challenge, or because it feels rewarding.

In 1 patch, Blizzard managed to make the game no longer challenging, and no longer rewarding at the same time.

Bingo.

The game is still a challenge for casual players though, it mostly affected the 'hardcore' gamer group that inferno was 'supposed' to cater towards. Though, like I've stated I don't personally care how easy the game gets. After all, at a certain point d2 became mindnumbingly easy, I just want proper itemization and farming. Neither of which Blizzard has done well.


When the game got easy in D2 you could start going for unusual or untested builds like melee sorc, Foh-Pala, throwing barb and whatnot and then trade or look for items to support that build.

Due to the lack of diversity in items/stats, the dumbed down mechanics and the endless reskill you dont ever have to regear or look for specific items. A witchdoctor always needs Int/Vit/Allres/Critstats. A DH the same with Dex, a Barb with Str. You get the idea. It doesnt even matter what skills you use, you always need the same 5 attributes on items.

No one is forcing you to use splinters; you can use rain of toads or firebomb. No one said that WDs had to be glass cannon; you can tank it up using jungle fortitude and bad medicine.


What does that have to do with anything i said?

I'm not complaining about skill diversity but the fact that nearly every skill you chose ends up needing the same items and attributes. On a WD you always need Int/Vit/Allres/Crit and attackspeed. Some people chose to get more Int and less Vit/Allres, some like more Vitality. Choosing to go with more or less Vit in exchange for main attribute is basically the extent to randomizing that we can get out of D3 right now in terms of items.

Yes, in D2 all hammerdins wore the same items, same goes for fireballsorc etc etc. The difference is that a fanazealot, a smiter, a FoH-Pala all had to be levelled, built and get vastly different items and attributes. If you want to play a fanazealot ever you have to collect specific items for that.

If you want to switch from Poison dart to rain of toads and firebomb you just reskill and thats it. The 5 mainstats you need are completely the same.

its pretty clear that blizzard is not interested in making the game appeal to the minority of hardcore gamers like yourself. they want to make it more attractive to casual players that dont want to have to restart their players just to try out different skillsets. you may not like that--and your reasons seem legitimate--but that is the new blizzard model. i am one of those casual gamers so i prefer the new model.


I agree and disagree with both of you. I like D3's system that lets people try out different skillsets anytime they want. I don't want to level new characters every time I want to try new skills. In this case, D3 is so much better than D2 for me.

What D2 does better is that different skillsets benefit greatly from different attributes. D3 is too much focused on main stat/vitality/all res, even for ranged characters so they could survive the occasional hit here and there. Those are boring stat attributes. Attack speed, crit chance and crit damage are far more interesting but they aren't enough. Slow on hit, freeze on hit, knockback on hit, etc. are far more interesting but Blizzard made them too weak in the name of balance. More damage on certain skills, less cost on certain skills are more interesting as well but again, Blizzard made them too weak and too rare.

Even the few interesting attributes they have are extremely weak and you are too often forced to sacrifice main stat/vitality/all res for them unless you get an extremely lucky roll. Even with the monster damage nerf in 1.03, there's still only so much vitality and all res you can sacrifice for the more interesting affixes. Combined with the drastic nerf in the drop rates of level 61-63 gear in acts 3-4 and there's very little that people can get other than main stat/vitality/all res.

I'm not a casual player. I've logged in more than 200 hours in this game already. Last night, I farmed act 3 inferno and didn't die much so I made out with more gold than when I started. The drops I got were such garbage that it didn't feel fulfilling. I played normal with a new class and it was so much more fun. That's how messed up the endgame is currently.
Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
June 21 2012 15:19 GMT
#12571
I came into Diablo 3 with pretty high expectations. Turns out everything I expected to make the game fun is blatantly missing. Rerolling characters is a huge pain, because every single level and enemy is exactly the same every single time. Playing pure single player and living off the land is impossible, because drops are 99% crap. Playing endgame is more like working at a job than playing a game: you work through hours of repetitious and boring content with no other reward than some gold to add to your account. But then, with RMAH, I guess you could make it a job. A crappy one. Huge dissapointment. Even knowing Blizzard has been losing its magic, I wasn't expecting a produce THIS bad. I'm not going to make suggestions for improvement because there's 0 chance anything will ever change.
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
June 21 2012 17:10 GMT
#12572
quick question
for jewelers, are the designs reuseable or one time use? for flawless perfect radiant star jewels?
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
June 21 2012 17:14 GMT
#12573
On June 22 2012 02:10 Nuttyguy wrote:
quick question
for jewelers, are the designs reuseable or one time use? for flawless perfect radiant star jewels?

Teach it to the jeweler, he can craft an unlimited amounts of jewels of that type (like flawless star emerald). The design gets used up in the process, you can't pass it to another person.
=Þ
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
June 21 2012 17:20 GMT
#12574
On June 22 2012 02:14 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 02:10 Nuttyguy wrote:
quick question
for jewelers, are the designs reuseable or one time use? for flawless perfect radiant star jewels?

Teach it to the jeweler, he can craft an unlimited amounts of jewels of that type (like flawless star emerald). The design gets used up in the process, you can't pass it to another person.


Thanks.
TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
June 21 2012 17:48 GMT
#12575
Anybody know a good way for a Barb & DH to deal with Rakanoth in inferno?
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
June 21 2012 18:14 GMT
#12576
Anyone in Inferno Hardcore want to farm some Dark Cellar gobs? PM~
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
June 21 2012 18:25 GMT
#12577
On June 22 2012 02:48 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Anybody know a good way for a Barb & DH to deal with Rakanoth in inferno?

1: Get a party of 4 and chain-res each other.
2: With a DH, take note of the charge-up animation before his teleport-attack hits. Smokescreen at the correct time. This is really hard to do, but it's your best bet if you're soloing him and his teleport-attack 1-shots you.
3: I think the lickers that he summons have a 100% chance to drop a health globe upon dying. Kill them if you're really desperate for healing.
=Þ
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
June 21 2012 18:27 GMT
#12578
hide in corner and let barb solo
aka Teutonica
Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
June 21 2012 18:43 GMT
#12579
does anyone know how i can make sure the money from my RMAH goes to my paypal instead of bnet balance? I have a paypal linked to my bnet account but how do I tell RMAH to put it in there instead of bnet balance? thx in advance.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
June 21 2012 19:01 GMT
#12580
On June 22 2012 03:43 Hydrolisko wrote:
does anyone know how i can make sure the money from my RMAH goes to my paypal instead of bnet balance? I have a paypal linked to my bnet account but how do I tell RMAH to put it in there instead of bnet balance? thx in advance.


When placing the auction there's a dropdown list where you can select where the money goes.
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