Diablo III General Discussion - Page 583

On June 10 2012 17:42 Fontong wrote:
Oh my

On June 10 2012 19:46 kastoob wrote:
I'm confused:
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On June 10 2012 20:44 StyLeD wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm at a loss on how to win auctions. Too many times I've seen uber-good deals that I've planned up to 36 hours in advance crash and fall because every time I bid I get "Your bid was too low" as a message.

After the first two tries I started using a timer - I'd sync up the time so I knew when exactly a bid was going to end. However, I just lost a bid where I bid 5 seconds before the bid ended - this was to ensure some time for the "checking..." screen to complete after the bid.

Should I bid exactly before (does the bid happen once the bid is confirmed or upon clicking "Bid")? Should I bid higher than the minimum (or the minimum after that) as a precaution? I switch between two pages quickly to see if there are any updates, and there were none when I made my bid. It's quite frustrating getting outbidded at the last second on a variety of low-priced equips time and time again despite my best efforts.

Anyone have any tips/tricks other than "click faster" (I already click quite fast).


^As to the quoted comment above me, the update speed of that is ridiculously slow. I've seen that page take over 5 minutes to refresh to the latest bid.

On June 10 2012 20:58 Warri wrote:

it doesnt refresh to the "latest bid" it refreshes to the highest bid. If someone bids 100000m and someone else only bids 3m, the price will still be 3 something m. Unil someone bids 5m, then it will be 5 somethign m, but the same person who bid 100000m will still be winning. Until someone bids more than that. So instead of "planning in advance" just immediately bid what you really want to bid maximum.

On June 10 2012 21:28 HolydaKing wrote:
easy to understand:

"Your Bid" is what you are willing to pay and the prize others have to pay to get the edge over your bid.

"Current Bid" is what others have paid for yet. It's also what you will have to pay when it's over, the difference of "Your Bid" and "Current Bid" is what you'll get back if you won.

It's (almost) like at eBay if i'm not wrong.

It’s intentional. We don’t want a game where the most effective way to play is to dodge in and out of enemy attacks. It’s not that difficult to do, and it’s just not a very fun way to play. “Most effective” and “not fun” just can’t be in the same sentence when describing part of the game. We want combat to be based on use of abilities, putting thought into builds, building up offensive and defensive stats, etc. Skill is absolutely a part of all of the systems you’ll use, and kiting can be too, but it’d be ridiculous if you could avoid all of the systems that make the game the game because you can time dodges of enemy attacks and negate every other factor.

Also think about just running past enemies to rush through an area and never being hit. Anyone looking to rush would love it! Which is why it’s not a good idea from a design perspective. It’s not something we’ll be changing.

On June 11 2012 03:53 udgnim wrote:
it's fucking stupid that an obviously flawed and bad game design decision regarding hit detection is justified by Blizzard to be "fun"

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-melee-monster-range-extensive



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN8x64c6gsI

Jay Wilson needs to be removed from D3 as game design lead and replaced with someone that actually understands how to have fun gameplay mechanics in a game.

On June 11 2012 04:03 Firebolt145 wrote:
Oh wow. All this time I've been playing on US servers and when I get hit by shit I did not get hit by on my screen I just chalked it up to lag, and I just swore at Blizzard for making an offline game online. Little did I know it was intentionally designed that way.

That is fucking stupid.

On June 11 2012 04:05 Infernal_dream wrote:


He's glass cannon and crying that he dies in one shot. Logic doesn't apply to gamers I guess.

On June 11 2012 04:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
IMO this is comparable to removing micro from SC2 and making it a build order game.

On June 11 2012 04:08 TheYango wrote:

Actually, I think it's a really silly thing to complain about, given:

1) It functions the exact same way as D1/D2. If you're in range at the start of the attack animation, the attack will connect, regardless of where you are when the attack finishes. This really shouldnt surprise anyone at all.
2) There are legitimate game design reasons for it to function this way:
- As he mentioned, it makes rushing easier if you can run through a pack of monsters that should 1-shot you and not ever get hit by any of them
- It exacerbates class imbalance--ranged classes inherently benefit more from these types of dodging mechanics than melee classes because they don't need to be in melee range to attack back

On June 11 2012 04:12 TheYango wrote:

Except it's not because of genre precedent.

RPGs predominantly have always had combat systems that are driven primarily by your character's abilities, not by the player's. There are of course hybrids in recent times that have broken this mold, but I don't think Blizzard ever tried to advertise D3 as such a hybrid.

Again, it functioned the exact same way in D1/D2. It makes zero sense to expect the game to function any differently from the way it does, because all precedent leads to the game working this way.

On June 11 2012 04:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
Gotta admit that I have not played D1/2 so I cannot comment on that. And although I expect gear/builds to heavily play a part, I also would've expected player skill playing a huge part, being able to weave in and out of attacks etc. Especially when so many enemy attacks/spells have animations that lead you to believe you can dodge them.

The one in the video doesn't fit that--it's a freaking teleport attack. What the hell is the point of Diablo teleporting to you if it doesn't guarantee a melee hit? It's pretty obvious that if he teleports, you have to blow a defensive cooldown to not get hit.