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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 11 2012 01:29 GMT
#11681
i think it's cus u can't cancel other animations with vault while smokescreen activates through everything

so you can be in the middle of an attack and smokescreen, but you have to wait for the attack animation to finish before you can vault
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
June 11 2012 01:59 GMT
#11682
On June 11 2012 08:04 WirelessWaffle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 06:53 semantics wrote:
On June 11 2012 06:49 WirelessWaffle wrote:
On June 11 2012 06:45 semantics wrote:
On June 11 2012 06:42 solidbebe wrote:
I really like demon hunter's mobility but is it me or is the vault ability just horrible in bossfights? Every time I try to use it I have to press it like 6 times before it registers and there's a second inherent delay anyways on TOP of the lag. Controls feel pretty unresponsive, combined with lag, makes me a sad demon hunter.

Yeah hard life as a DH ammirte.


If you can't dodge what you want to dodge due to latency or w/e yes. Yes it is.

ie if i can't SS a teleporter monster's near instant attack because of latency i will die 1 mirrion times

Or maybe you aren't meant to be able to just auto reduce big damage from a teleporting monster instead you're suppose to actually stack armor and resistance. You play like a glass cannon you die like a glass cannon. I have a Monk DH and WD all in inferno, i'll say to you that some things like oppressors and burrowers aren't meant to be dodge able unless your psychic. So why don't you stack some armor and resist and not die in one hit, and just invl and heal up to take another hit later on. It be pretty op if wiz and dh would be able to just teleport/vault out of any attack. It make every other class just irrelevant.



- Wiz's can TP out of almost anything as far as I know
- No one said vault to dodge attacks (it seems to have a guaranteed delay at the start) it was more of talking about using vault to dodge obvious things that should 1shot a person if they get hit by it (Azmodans giant slow as balls fireball for example)

Morale of the story. Blizz has a history of making melee classes/units suck donkey balls in most of their games and then patching in fixes. If you rolled melee with the prior knowledge please complain in a logical manner.


To my knowledge the Wizard point is correct. Though the damage calculation is server side so i've had a few deaths where I teleported a screen away only to find myself lying on the ground where i started because i had cut the timing too close.

Note that the "hitbox" on spears and arrows is far larger than the projectile. You can dodge them, but it requires more room, that is where most of the complaints come from.

Concerning vault, it does seem to be rather unresponsive, but if you vault early enough you can dodge out of quite a lot, still SS seems to be far faster in that regard. You can use vault to leave AoE areas easily (boss fights, arcane sentries etc.) but to dodge a specific shot it seems impossible.

Regarding the top clearing, it isn't only the skill bar, the Point of View of your character means you have far less area you can see "below" it, than above it. Also the line of sight on some buildings and zones is quite problematic if you want to shoot enemies from your furthest range possible, but that is a completly different area of discussion.

btw: if you can dodge opressors regulary I am in awe of your reaction time and latency, on my connection that is close to impossible...
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 03:20:32
June 11 2012 03:19 GMT
#11683
On June 11 2012 10:59 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 08:04 WirelessWaffle wrote:
On June 11 2012 06:53 semantics wrote:
On June 11 2012 06:49 WirelessWaffle wrote:
On June 11 2012 06:45 semantics wrote:
On June 11 2012 06:42 solidbebe wrote:
I really like demon hunter's mobility but is it me or is the vault ability just horrible in bossfights? Every time I try to use it I have to press it like 6 times before it registers and there's a second inherent delay anyways on TOP of the lag. Controls feel pretty unresponsive, combined with lag, makes me a sad demon hunter.

Yeah hard life as a DH ammirte.


If you can't dodge what you want to dodge due to latency or w/e yes. Yes it is.

ie if i can't SS a teleporter monster's near instant attack because of latency i will die 1 mirrion times

Or maybe you aren't meant to be able to just auto reduce big damage from a teleporting monster instead you're suppose to actually stack armor and resistance. You play like a glass cannon you die like a glass cannon. I have a Monk DH and WD all in inferno, i'll say to you that some things like oppressors and burrowers aren't meant to be dodge able unless your psychic. So why don't you stack some armor and resist and not die in one hit, and just invl and heal up to take another hit later on. It be pretty op if wiz and dh would be able to just teleport/vault out of any attack. It make every other class just irrelevant.



- Wiz's can TP out of almost anything as far as I know
- No one said vault to dodge attacks (it seems to have a guaranteed delay at the start) it was more of talking about using vault to dodge obvious things that should 1shot a person if they get hit by it (Azmodans giant slow as balls fireball for example)

Morale of the story. Blizz has a history of making melee classes/units suck donkey balls in most of their games and then patching in fixes. If you rolled melee with the prior knowledge please complain in a logical manner.


Regarding the top clearing, it isn't only the skill bar, the Point of View of your character means you have far less area you can see "below" it, than above it.


Yeah this is so true, to the point that I always try to clear areas from the bottom up so that I can see those nasty spearmen and heralds of pestilence from further away. And most of the outdoor areas in the game are designed to be cleared in such a way, virtually all of them start from the south and head north.
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
June 11 2012 03:29 GMT
#11684
battlenet about to go down
Power of Ze
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
June 11 2012 03:30 GMT
#11685
Fuck this game. Two runs in a row I get to 5 stacks and then Dc'd from the fucking server. Not my internet either because I have streams open in the background without a hiccup. Real great server's blizzard.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 03:31:57
June 11 2012 03:30 GMT
#11686
lol. Huge lag spike just happened where I didn't know what the fuck was going on, then all of a sudden im dead. Then it wouldnt let me out of the game so I had to close the shit from task manager....what the fuck.

Now servers are busy, nice.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
June 11 2012 03:31 GMT
#11687
Just bought this game yesterday, just got disconnected for the first time today. Sucks super hard but if they're doing server maintenance or something its ok.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
June 11 2012 03:33 GMT
#11688
So I'm playing on Hardcore and...

THE SERVERS GO DOWN

DID I DIE, BLIZZARD??
Everyone needs a nemesis.
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
June 11 2012 03:33 GMT
#11689
On June 11 2012 12:30 Enki wrote:
lol. Huge lag spike just happened where I didn't know what the fuck was going on, then all of a sudden im dead. Then it wouldnt let me out of the game so I had to close the shit from task manager....what the fuck.

Now servers are busy, nice.


Rockin' my HC Monk around, doing pretty well, then lag in a rather large mob, heal doesn't get sent in time, lost.

Love it.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 03:34:36
June 11 2012 03:34 GMT
#11690
On June 11 2012 12:31 Witten wrote:
Just bought this game yesterday, just got disconnected for the first time today. Sucks super hard but if they're doing server maintenance or something its ok.


maintenances are scheduled for tuesdays so most likely not. probably just a server derp

also i just got in
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
June 11 2012 03:34 GMT
#11691
Losing HC chars to blizzard's servers fucking up is the most ridiculous thing possible.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
June 11 2012 03:35 GMT
#11692
If I die to this - there will be retribution
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
June 11 2012 03:35 GMT
#11693
we really need a server status thread. this is getting out of hand
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46232 Posts
June 11 2012 03:41 GMT
#11694
On June 11 2012 12:35 Terranasaur wrote:
we really need a server status thread. this is getting out of hand


This is the server status thread. lol.

If you try signing on and you're like "wtf?" then you come on here to the three most recent pages and everything's made clearer
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
June 11 2012 03:50 GMT
#11695
This is the general thread after all...

and a huge lag spike happened again but I was able to TP out. Not playing for an hour or so lol this is retarded.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
June 11 2012 03:50 GMT
#11696
Crap like this is why I'm not going to even ATTEMPT HC for another few months. It will take them awhile before they get used to the daily load and stop patching everything. I've died so many times SC from server lag, I'd break a window if my level 58 wiz was HC...
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
June 11 2012 03:56 GMT
#11697
I got lucky enough to town portal amidst the lag...but I'd spammed so may actions before that that I had to watch my character go through a series of really glitchy actions and encounters with invisible enemies.
Mercurial#1193
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
June 11 2012 04:00 GMT
#11698
getting all sorts of funny errors right now
Power of Ze
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
June 11 2012 04:02 GMT
#11699
"Player just got removed by an administrator."

Wat?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46232 Posts
June 11 2012 04:12 GMT
#11700
On June 11 2012 13:02 RageOverdose wrote:
"Player just got removed by an administrator."

Wat?


Oh you dun did it now...

+ Show Spoiler +
No idea. Let us know if you find out if it actually means anything significant? Possibly just got dropped from the game or something?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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