• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:13
CEST 18:13
KST 01:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-66SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-63PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)11Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE15
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 2/8 August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles #19 2-Days Event SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games ASL22 General Discussion Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club The Scarlett Fan Club The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4771 users

Diablo III General Discussion - Page 384

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 382 383 384 385 386 1109 Next
Kulijo
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany49 Posts
May 15 2012 16:04 GMT
#7661
So how is it compared to D2?? Metacritic says it's shitty.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
May 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#7662
On May 16 2012 01:04 Kulijo wrote:
So how is it compared to D2?? Metacritic says it's shitty.

Go back 2-3 pages and you got your answer.
=Þ
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
May 15 2012 16:06 GMT
#7663
the variety in gameplay is much better than d2 (both your own skills and monsters). i like a lot
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
May 15 2012 16:13 GMT
#7664
On May 16 2012 01:04 Kulijo wrote:
So how is it compared to D2?? Metacritic says it's shitty.
most mass review sites have it as a below average game, but fanbois will tell you that mass views don't count and will personally attack anyone who says the game is less than 10/10 rather than even looking at their points on why they didn't score it 10/10.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
May 15 2012 16:26 GMT
#7665
Bah, should never have left my game to join my friends. Got booted from bnet and can't reconnect. Sad me

Hm, guess I had to eat sometime...
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
May 15 2012 16:26 GMT
#7666
On May 16 2012 01:04 Kulijo wrote:
So how is it compared to D2?? Metacritic says it's shitty.

I tend not to even look at the user scores on sites like Metacritic because some people just make accounts to rate popular games down.
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
May 15 2012 16:27 GMT
#7667
Arrive home from work...

Authenticating....

Authenticating....

Authenticating....

NOPE!
Praise the sun! \o/
Mango Chicken
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
55 Posts
May 15 2012 16:28 GMT
#7668
On May 15 2012 19:32 Roffles wrote:
Want to pray so bad, but these midterms are killin me.


There is always time for God, young man.
Mango Chicken
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
55 Posts
May 15 2012 16:29 GMT
#7669
On May 16 2012 01:26 SeungHwan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 01:04 Kulijo wrote:
So how is it compared to D2?? Metacritic says it's shitty.

I tend not to even look at the user scores on sites like Metacritic because some people just make accounts to rate popular games down.


If you actually read the reviews you'll see it's written by people who have actually played the game. One word of warning I can give to anyone is don't fucking buy the game if you want more than four hours of gameplay. Almost everyone has clocked it already and there's no replay value.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 16:39:55
May 15 2012 16:30 GMT
#7670
On May 16 2012 01:04 Kulijo wrote:
So how is it compared to D2?? Metacritic says it's shitty.

There's no critic reviews out on metacritic yet. My rule of thumb, especially with games, is to always ignore user reviews on metacritic. User reviews on there are honestly the most useless thing ever. When Starcraft II came out, it had an average user review score of something like 4.5 because of "no LAN." I realise the lack of LAN sucks and is an annoyance (especially for esports), but the lack of LAN doesn't take an excellent game from somewhere between 8-10 to 0. Mass Effect 3 has an average user score of 3.9 at the moment because people disliked the ending. Once again, an ending you dislike can decrease the score, but you can't just ignore the rest of the game (which is excellent) and give the game 0 out of 10 because of one (relatively small) aspect. My point is, ignore game user reviews on metacritic, they are the most bandwagon-ish thing ever.

Anyway, compared to D2 the game kicks serious ass. I absolutely adore D2, and D3 was clearly designed with the same philosophy they just improved on pretty much everything. Combat, while still pretty much running around fighting hordes of creeps, is much more engaging since you are forced to use multiple skills, all with different strategic uses. For example, I'm playing a Barbarian right now, and I've got 4 skills so far. I mostly hit creeps with frenzy to build up my rage, then I've got a large area AOE bleed which is very good when I get surrounded. I also have a leap skill which I can use every 10 seconds which allows me to get out of trouble or jump into the middle of things, and finally I have a chained spear skill (like Scorpion's pull skill in Mortal Kombat) which is awesome to grab summoners or archers with. So instead of just running around using frenzy the whole time (like I did in D2), I am constantly leaping around, grabbing strategic targets and deciding on what to use.

The boss fights are also more fun. You can't just tank a boss while spamming health pots any more, since the bosses all have skills that will kill you damn quickly if you try that and health pots have a cooldown. What that means is that you're forced to dodge boss skills and find a way that you can maximise the damage you do while minimising the damage you take. The game is also pretty tough. My friend, who had a few hardcore characters between 50 and 80 on D2, has died twice before level 15 in D3. Obviously it's his first character and he didn't know what to expect, but even a reasonably experienced D2 player should still get frights fairly regularly.

Finally, the game is beautiful and there is way better diversity to the zones. Instead of the entire Act I having the same scenery, Act I takes place over about 6 or 7 really well made zones that all look stunning.

My only concern is that character specialization has been taken out to a large extent. You still have to make decisions between which skills to use and how to improve them, but you no longer make any permanent decisions like investing points in a skill tree or on stats. The game is designed so that you can change from one build to another at no cost. I understand the reasoning behind this, and I do think that the benefits outweigh the costs, but it makes the character feel slightly less unique than it did in D2.

Seriously, if you were a fan of D2 you should definitely pick up D3. Time will tell if it's a classic like D2, but at the very least you'll get a few weeks of insane fun
On May 16 2012 01:29 Mango Chicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 01:26 SeungHwan wrote:
On May 16 2012 01:04 Kulijo wrote:
So how is it compared to D2?? Metacritic says it's shitty.

I tend not to even look at the user scores on sites like Metacritic because some people just make accounts to rate popular games down.


If you actually read the reviews you'll see it's written by people who have actually played the game. One word of warning I can give to anyone is don't fucking buy the game if you want more than four hours of gameplay. Almost everyone has clocked it already and there's no replay value.

That makes no sense. The fastest normal completion of the game I've head of so far is 7 hours, and that's a group of players doing a speed run together. Also, that's just normal and Diablo was always meant to be played through all the difficulties. Finishing the game on normal hardly counts as completing the game. Regarding replay value, I haven't finished the game yet so I can't say for sure, but I don't see any reason it would not have replay value similar to Diablo 2. Assuming it takes you 3x7 hours to finish the game on everything up to hell (which is a very conservative estimate), you'll still want to play with multiple classes which gives you a minimum of at least 60 hours of gameplay (assuming three different classes). And that's a very conservative estimate, since that takes a speed run's time as the basis, and it ignores the fact that nightmare and hell generally take longer than normal to complete. Also, it assumes you're not doing any item farming or anything other than just finishing the game.

Like I said, I haven't finished the game yet so I can't say for a fact, but 4 hours of gameplay seems like complete bullshit to me.
Moderator
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany614 Posts
May 15 2012 16:32 GMT
#7671
I just swapped my shield with the one the templar had (I'm a DH)

in hindsight, I could have passed on the 4p more armor - it even had the same affix...
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
May 15 2012 16:33 GMT
#7672
On May 16 2012 01:29 Mango Chicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 01:26 SeungHwan wrote:
On May 16 2012 01:04 Kulijo wrote:
So how is it compared to D2?? Metacritic says it's shitty.

I tend not to even look at the user scores on sites like Metacritic because some people just make accounts to rate popular games down.


If you actually read the reviews you'll see it's written by people who have actually played the game. One word of warning I can give to anyone is don't fucking buy the game if you want more than four hours of gameplay. Almost everyone has clocked it already and there's no replay value.

ummm.......
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
May 15 2012 16:33 GMT
#7673
Is anyone else having a problem where the mouse courser doesn't lock to 1 screen when playing in fullscreen windowed mode?
Jessica Jung, Kim Taeyeon, Kwon Yuri <333
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
May 15 2012 16:34 GMT
#7674
oh fuck I connected from work just to try and even created a hero and left the game, now i'm back home stuck at the error 75....
YoloStar <3
Hadley_
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany157 Posts
May 15 2012 16:38 GMT
#7675
EU BNet DOWN! ...again! Only wanted to make a new game and bam.. ERROR.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 16:40:08
May 15 2012 16:38 GMT
#7676
well now thats weird while i had no problems with creating my normal char 2 hours ago when i create my HC one i got the errors

prime time ftl

so should i just spam it until it works or try reloging?
Stork[gm]
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 16:42:51
May 15 2012 16:41 GMT
#7677
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/status



edit - was getting 75, now 37
Praise the sun! \o/
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
May 15 2012 16:42 GMT
#7678
On May 16 2012 01:38 bgx wrote:
well now thats weird while i had no problems with creating my normal char 2 hours ago when i create my HC one i got the errors

prime time ftl

so should i just spam it until it works or try reloging?

don't relog i cant get on
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 16:44:59
May 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#7679
On May 16 2012 01:42 Cocacooh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 01:38 bgx wrote:
well now thats weird while i had no problems with creating my normal char 2 hours ago when i create my HC one i got the errors

prime time ftl

so should i just spam it until it works or try reloging?

don't relog i cant get on

ok thanks, this fkin sucks then... i hoped that after 18 hours since start there will be no more problems...

Ok made the char
Stork[gm]
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
May 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#7680
On May 16 2012 01:29 Mango Chicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 01:26 SeungHwan wrote:
On May 16 2012 01:04 Kulijo wrote:
So how is it compared to D2?? Metacritic says it's shitty.

I tend not to even look at the user scores on sites like Metacritic because some people just make accounts to rate popular games down.


If you actually read the reviews you'll see it's written by people who have actually played the game. One word of warning I can give to anyone is don't fucking buy the game if you want more than four hours of gameplay. Almost everyone has clocked it already and there's no replay value.


Have you actually played this game or Diablo 2? I can understand people not liking Action RPGs, but saying it has 4 hours of gameplay is a joke. It should take around 4 hours to complete Act 2 on Normal, playing at a reasonable pace. I don't know how big the other acts are, maybe Act 4 is small like it was on D2, but it still should be at least 6-7 hours for your first playthrough on Normal. But that will leave you with a single character around level 30. The fun in this kind of game is playing through the other dificulties, leveling diferent characters, collecting items and in the future maybe PvP. If you feel the game is about finishing it a single time on normal, you probally don't really like the genre, but don't blame the game for it. Diablo 2 was pretty short as well.
Prev 1 382 383 384 385 386 1109 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 47m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7792
EffOrt 1133
Bisu 1027
Mini 904
Jaedong 573
Shuttle 470
BeSt 297
actioN 215
Sexy 96
hero 58
[ Show more ]
Hyun 50
Terrorterran 43
Hm[arnc] 29
soO 27
sorry 24
Rock 23
zelot 21
Shine 20
IntoTheRainbow 13
Dota 2
Gorgc17021
Dendi1191
BananaSlamJamma182
League of Legends
Grubby987
Counter-Strike
fl0m1044
byalli976
pashabiceps7
Other Games
FrodaN1619
singsing1614
B2W.Neo1043
hiko808
Mlord416
ceh9291
elazer205
Liquid`VortiX203
Trikslyr32
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV66
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Shameless 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV493
League of Legends
• Nemesis2511
Other Games
• Shiphtur188
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
7h 47m
Replay Cast
16h 47m
Kung Fu Cup
18h 47m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
The PondCast
1d 17h
INu's Battles
1d 18h
Percival vs Cure
Classic vs Clem
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs SHIN
Clem vs Solar
Serral vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The Patches Monday
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-03
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.