EPTRL money transfers is just a way for blizzard to take over that exact market which would exist anyways. Basically removing the illegal money transfers etc. If you can't beat them, join them! Also it adds alot of great Bnet functionality and expanded utility so I think it's all good.
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
RL money transfers is just a way for blizzard to take over that exact market which would exist anyways. Basically removing the illegal money transfers etc. If you can't beat them, join them! Also it adds alot of great Bnet functionality and expanded utility so I think it's all good. | ||
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Serpico
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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clik
United States319 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:40 Serpico wrote: sooo if someone has an item I want off a boss on the auction house what's the point of doing that boss or killing stuff to find anything on my own? Acquiring rare gear through your own means was one of the most fun parts of diablo. You kind of answered your own question. The point of doing that boss or killing stuff to find anything on your own would be the fun part of diablo. You're not forced to buy anything on the AH. | ||
sickle
New Zealand656 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:42 Lyter wrote: The RL money AH seems pretty awesome to me, if you don't wanna use it don't use it, it has no impact on you, and you could full well make some money out of it if you find some cool stuff Exactly, the hate seems blind to me, due to people not understanding it. I admit it annoyed me at first then I read about it and I was like "oh okay fair enough ~whateva~". | ||
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:40 Serpico wrote: sooo if someone has an item I want off a boss on the auction house what's the point of doing that boss or killing stuff to find anything on my own? Acquiring rare gear through your own means was one of the most fun parts of diablo. What exactly is your point? If you want to buy it off of the auction house, you're gonna have to earn the appropriate amount of gold first. I mean, it's gonna be just like it's been in diablo 2 for a decade now. You either get lucky and find that rare awesome item yourself or, while hunting the item down, you collect a pack of common inferior items that's worth as much as the big item. | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
I dont see the real money auction house being too much of a problem for me, I play Diablo mainly for the single player experience. Besides there is an alternative auction house too. | ||
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JupiterJazz
Germany92 Posts
 the argument that people were respecing into stronger/newer skills once they come available to make the new spell you just unlocked stronger just shows that they did something wrong with the progression of spells/skills.I know that when you want to use your new spell more than your old spell seems like they did it right cause the new spell is just more awesome but it seems to me that they just took the easy way out instead of coming up with a cool way to keep talentpoints. they did quite a good job with how you gain new spells and enhance them trough skillpoints in wow for example and it makes for such a great feeling to make your char stronger... | ||
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JoshRulz
Australia16 Posts
Not to mention what it will do to the value of super rare items like a Zod rune (for example). Why grind for 6 months to find it when you could just buy it now and ruin the game for yourself? Finding items is the FUN of the game!!! At least they have the sense to disable it for hardcore mode, more incentive to play it imo. I mean what do you have to show having a maxed char with the best items if noone can tell if you earned them or bought them? I, for one, will be staying as far away from the AH as possible. /end rant Other than that im still looking forward to the game  | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:43 clik wrote: You kind of answered your own question. The point of doing that boss or killing stuff to find anything on your own would be the fun part of diablo. You're not forced to buy anything on the AH. but yet people can completely make me irrelevant by having better gear because I try and find my own. The real money transactions is simply another source of revenue for blizzard I guess with the fees. But now the economy is wacked. | ||
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Paradice
New Zealand431 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:46 Phenny wrote: Exactly, the hate seems blind to me, due to people not understanding it. I admit it annoyed me at first then I read about it and I was like "oh okay fair enough ~whateva~". I think the hate is more cognitive dissonance... the haters like to pretend that this doesn't already happen in WoW or in D2 or in <insert popular online MMO/RPG here>, because they believe their own achievements are more valuable if this is the case. It seems like a fantastic idea to me. Totally optional, and if you do buy stuff, other players will benefit, and Blizzard will benefit (which ultimately can only help the game). Under the current black market, when you buy "Legit WoW Gold Online now!", or "fully PvP geared level 85 paladin!", who do you think benefits? Definitely not other players. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
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Karok
Netherlands142 Posts
PvP ruined WoW PvE. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:52 Karok wrote: Stop whining about PvP, PvP has no place in D3 and I hope it never will.. PvP ruined WoW PvE. but yet it's still there. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
Simple economics. Labor in some countries is EXTREMELY cheap. If you can make 1 dollar an hour farming a endgame area. Guess what, there will be factories of cheap laborers farming that area. Simple worldwide economics means 95% of the supply will be from cheap laborers. The main interaction Americans/first worlders would have is buying said goods. The supply will match the demand. If the demand for items is enough to sustain 5 dollars an hour, the market will be flooded by cheap laborers from third world/poor areas farming. Basically from a supply/demand there is no way the average player will make more than like 20 cents an hour playing d3 constantly. If you could make more, a huge supply of cheap laborers would already be doing it and probably will flood the market. I wouldnt be surprised if 60% of accounts are "farmers" aka cheap laborers from poor areas. Also yes the chinese will use proxies to avoid bans. Now if botting/hacking becomes the norm like in D2 you could potentially make some cash botting/duping, but not legitly playing. | ||
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Medzo
United States627 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:51 Inori wrote: It wouldn't have an impact on me if it would be offline. Any mmo type game is by default competitive and thus affects anyone participating in it. Only incentive to play PvE is to get better gear, compared to others. Can't do that because some kid can buy stuff better than you in 1 day. Only incentive to play PvP is the ability to win against other people, which is done with better gear, which is.. well you get the point. Those arent the only incentives. If they are your only incentives then maybe you should use it elsewhere, not on video games. And just incase its not obvious. The most common incentive in playing a game should be to enjoy your time. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On August 01 2011 18:53 dacthehork wrote: You will never as a real player make money off this auction house. Simple economics. Labor in some countries is EXTREMELY cheap. If you can make 1 dollar an hour farming a endgame area. Guess what, there will be factories of cheap laborers farming that area. Simple worldwide economics means 95% of the supply will be from cheap laborers. The main interaction Americans/first worlders would have is buying said goods. The supply will match the demand. If the demand for items is enough to sustain 5 dollars an hour, the market will be flooded by cheap laborers from third world/poor areas farming. Basically from a supply/demand there is no way the average player will make more than like 20 cents an hour playing d3 constantly. If you could make more, a huge supply of cheap laborers would already be doing it and probably will flood the market. I wouldnt be surprised if 60% of accounts are "farmers" aka cheap laborers from poor areas. Also yes the chinese will use proxies to avoid bans. Now if botting/hacking becomes the norm like in D2 you could potentially make some cash botting/duping, but not legitly playing. Making the problem worse, because why farm for 10 hours for a Buriza if you can just spend 5 cents on it because there are farmers doing it? Blizzard is seriously not getting the difference between a player selling an item, and a gold farmer... Everything is going to become dirt cheap, and this won't be cool for the player base. Only for the farmers, because they don't have to avoid bans now, because farming and selling is completely legal. At least it's not in hardcore, but god damn talk about killing the casual D3 scene.. | ||
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