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Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
August 01 2011 09:01 GMT
#2581
At first I was like zomg this is an outrage, then I read: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/08/01/diablo-3-will-let-players-buy-and-sell-items-for-real-money/
Now I'm happy/don't really care.

I'll probably use the in game gold trading house but I'm strongly against paying real money for items in all games.
Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
August 01 2011 09:03 GMT
#2582
On August 01 2011 17:58 cz wrote:
Every kid is going to be buying items
Yeah I really doubt that.
"Everyone worse than me at video games is a noob. Everyone better than me doesn't have a life."
Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 09:08:14
August 01 2011 09:04 GMT
#2583
I'll wait for when beta is actually released, before I make judgement on Blizzard

Edit:

On August 01 2011 17:56 cz wrote:
Anyone have a clue roughly how "big" diablo 3 will be compared to diablo 2? I mean in terms of game length, essentially how long the game takes before it gets boring. WoW for example is a much larger game than Diablo 2, which can be "played out" in a month or so. Anyone got a clue on how big/long diablo 3 is going to be? Like how many Diablo II acts Diablo III will be?

I'm afraid with all this "it's an RPG, not an MMO" that Diablo 3 will be a quick playthrough and then you're done, like diablo 2 was.



If you look at Diablo III like you look at WoW, then your missing the point >_>
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keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
August 01 2011 09:08 GMT
#2584
On August 01 2011 17:47 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Poll: Real Life Currency Auctionhouse?

I don't like it, but I'll buy anyway (23)
 
32%

I won't buy Diablo 3 (20)
 
27%

I love the idea (17)
 
23%

I'll be playing hardcore so I don't have to worry about it (11)
 
15%

It's better than BoP items (2)
 
3%

73 total votes

Your vote: Real Life Currency Auctionhouse?

(Vote): I won't buy Diablo 3
(Vote): I don't like it, but I'll buy anyway
(Vote): I'll be playing hardcore so I don't have to worry about it
(Vote): It's better than BoP items
(Vote): I love the idea



What do you all think about it? I'll be playing hardcore, so as long as that quote about it not being available in hardcore more is true I could care less honestly. Maybe I'll make some money in my spare time in softcore even ^_^


Where's the "I could care less, I'm still buying it" option.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
August 01 2011 09:09 GMT
#2585
the dissapointment I feel when I heard the d3 news is the biggest in Blizzard gaming announcements. This is actually the first time I feel I might not play d3 at all.

The PvP portion just got destroyed. I am completely fine with making PvP casual, that is:
- Don' t balance the game around PvP
- Don't hand out gear for PvP players
- Don't give anything to PvP players

but for the love of god. Why wouldn't you at least give us, taking the SC2 analogy, leagues and ladders? What is in it in d3 for a PvP player like me that likes to compete? NOTHING

The arena and ladder was 80% of what I was looking forward with D3 and I was happy with Blizzard saying "you won't get gear", "it won't be an e-sport"... but they managed to even destroy that.

And as far as the real money auction house goes. I can't even believe there are people defending Blizzard based on "there are already 3rd party sites for that". If Blizzard should implement functionality in their games based on "there are already 3rd party sites for that" most of their games would be destroyed.

Sad to see Blizzard go down that road. If they wanted to earn a buck or two they could have made micro transactions in some other way, this is just a cheap way to leech on the community, specially kids that play a little too much just to earn a extra dollar or two. Disgusting.
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
August 01 2011 09:09 GMT
#2586
Damn, I play these kind of games for the fun of trying new (and oftentimes horrible) builds. I don't care about the item store though, because for me it's a SP game.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 09:12:16
August 01 2011 09:10 GMT
#2587
At first I was like WTF REAL MONEY AUCTION HOUSE??
Then I went : Oh wait, maybe I can make money too with selling items.
Then finally I realized that won't be possible since once the farming machine kicks in, everything will be cheap as fuck.

Oh and

“What’s Blizzard’s cut?
As with other online auction sites and real-world auction houses, our fee structure will vary by region. However, we plan to collect a nominal fixed transaction fee for each item listed in the auction house. This fee consists of a fixed charge to list the item, which is assessed whether or not the item is successfully sold, and an additional fixed charge that is assessed only if the item is sold. The listing portion of the fee, which helps encourage sensible listing prices and discourage the mass posting of items that are very low quality or would be of little interest to other players, will be waived for a limited number of transactions per account. For players who opt to have the proceeds of their auction house sales go to their third-party payment service account instead of to their Battle.net account, Blizzard will collect a separate “cash-out” fee. Specific details regarding these fees will be announced at a later date.”
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HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
August 01 2011 09:12 GMT
#2588
On August 01 2011 17:28 opiemonster wrote:
THEY REMOVED SKILL POINTS

THER REMOVED TRAITS

YOU CAN PAY MONEY TO GET ITEMS

YOU DONT EVER HAVE TO GO TO TOWN

ID RATHER JUST HAVE NO RESPEC +++ THIS IS BULL!@#$ 8===================D

I feel you bro. But I won't go that extreme.

From all the announcements, this is NOT Diablo. Just another great Hack & Slash RPG bearing the name of the infamous franchise similar to the path of Starcraft 2.

Sure Blizzard still made great games, but I don't like the way they are changing the key elements of our beloved games to the point that the games don't have the same feel anymore.

I have high expectation for any Blizzard title. But this would be the last time I'll buy their game if D3 turns out to be another disappointment just like my SC2 box sitting at the back of my gaming collection.

This is not the Blizzard I have known for 20 years and I had been losing faith since later patch of WC3.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 09:16:19
August 01 2011 09:14 GMT
#2589
On August 01 2011 16:49 Teoyaomqui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 16:41 Bloodash wrote:
if competitive Diablo3 will ever be a thing, buying gear for real life money will be terrible; want to be any decent in pvp: buy ultra rare gear > win

at least in WoW everyone had to grind to get pvp gear

If competitive Diablo 3 ever becomes a thing obviously all good items will be soulbound just as in WoW.

If Blizzard didn't support RMT you could still buy things for money like you can buy gold in WoW, so there would be no difference at all. Why are people upset?


So just because there are 3rd party sites leeching on the community the answer is Blizzard should do the same?

At least put some thought into an argument. At least bring forth that selling items in games for real cash is a good thing as a principle.

Don't argue "there are others that do it, therefore Blizzard should also do it, it is the same thing". I hope this isn't they way you reason in life in general. Seriously...
Dooba
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Croatia588 Posts
August 01 2011 09:20 GMT
#2590
When i think about it a bit more... real money to buy items? No thanks, not into that. Won't be buying the game. Hope to see something from the devs on the subject in the near future ^_^
"Zergs are really stronger. I use to win 60-70%, now it is 40-50. I am switching to civilization 5 for now until any terran can come up with a better tactics."
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
August 01 2011 09:20 GMT
#2591
Well, I'm just gonna play D3 the same way I've played D2 and whenever I find something I don't need, I'll try to sell it for money and later for gold if nobody wants it. So far, nobody has given me a rock-solid argument for why this auction house is a bad thing, everybody just "has this feeling". It's not like the game will be ruined by the people that pay for items because their items are stronger than what I can obtain by doing mf runs and in general, the pros greatly outweigh the cons anyways.

Though I am kind of undecided about the skill point system. On one hand, I enjoyed building and planning various characters and on the other hand, it's pretty cool that I'll just have that one really strong and versatile character with many different itemsets.
Quote?
FrostFire626
Profile Joined April 2010
United States79 Posts
August 01 2011 09:21 GMT
#2592
My blood pressure is at semi-elevated levels after reading about the D3 auction house. It's an interesting spin on pay to win, but it is still pay to win. It's time to nerd rage.

I also think the SC2 marketplace concept is a joke. I honestly don't know why Blizzard is trying so hard to piss off it's customers.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
August 01 2011 09:24 GMT
#2593
Bye bye D3, not gonna waste a single $ on it.
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sirkyan
Profile Joined July 2010
211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 09:32:02
August 01 2011 09:25 GMT
#2594
Am I the only one who feels "chinese" gold(item :>)farmers will be feeling the heat from this?

Clarification: irl-money auction house
Another edit: read the comments on pc-gamers article. Yeah. This should be against human rights or whatever, basically giving them incentive to continue with the farming-thingy.. But if not this game another I guess. Idk.
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 09:26:43
August 01 2011 09:26 GMT
#2595
play at home with friends and earn money seems good. but i'm not sure about the game changes. the game needs to be good in the first place so people will want to buy it and play it.
hey man just curious
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
August 01 2011 09:26 GMT
#2596
What's happening with the skill point system?
Korlinni
Profile Joined April 2011
125 Posts
August 01 2011 09:28 GMT
#2597
Why are people raging so hard? It's not like Blizzard is posting all the equipment and stuff on the AH for money. People still have to go out there and farm it. But I do like the feel of getting equipment that no one else can just buy.
Impossible is a word to be found only in the dictionary of fools!
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
August 01 2011 09:33 GMT
#2598
On August 01 2011 18:26 Phenny wrote:
What's happening with the skill point system?


They removed the talent trees. Right now, you unlock various abilities at various levels and then their strength scales with your level. It's as if you had every skill tree maxed in diablo 2 without the synergy bonus'. For customization, you can insert runes into these abilities and then, the runes becomes a randomly generated bonus for that specific ability. For example, if you have an ability that's called FROSTBOLT and you insert a rune into it, the rune will become a RUNE OF FROSTBOLT, buffing this specific ability.
Quote?
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
August 01 2011 09:36 GMT
#2599
On August 01 2011 18:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 18:26 Phenny wrote:
What's happening with the skill point system?


They removed the talent trees. Right now, you unlock various abilities at various levels and then their strength scales with your level. It's as if you had every skill tree maxed in diablo 2 without the synergy bonus'. For customization, you can insert runes into these abilities and then, the runes becomes a randomly generated bonus for that specific ability. For example, if you have an ability that's called FROSTBOLT and you insert a rune into it, the rune will become a RUNE OF FROSTBOLT, buffing this specific ability.


Ah, hmm well I think I'd prefer old system of course, but I am okay with with this. Certainly not a dealbreaker at any rate.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 09:38:19
August 01 2011 09:36 GMT
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