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On February 17 2016 00:42 Glacierz wrote:
I try to do 1-3 bounty rounds every day that I play. I don't find them enjoyable (at 800+plvl, it doesn't offer much exp either), it's more of a chore to get through to ensure item progression. The fastest way is to join a pub bounty game on TX. Splitting it with other ppl shortens the time by about 50% for me, 75% if I get lucky with a party of competent players.
Note that if you use reroll in cube, you will find that you run short of souls very quickly, some TX speedrifts are probably needed as a combination to make this sustainable.
Overall, if you are looking for better base gear, do bounties/TX rifts for mats/souls. If you are looking for plvls / gem lvls / augments, do GRs.
Oh, seems like I've been doing it wrong then, thanks. 
Luckily I find team speed runs (rifts or bounties) more enjoyable than pushing GRs with the current wizard builds!
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On February 17 2016 00:57 oneofthem wrote:
how does the free set item work. i got a bag with 2 items when i got to 70, but how do i get the rest. they are also giving out the weakest set for the wiz, or at least the one i don't want to play
Reach lvl 70: 2 pieces
Kill Zultan Kulle T2: 2 pieces
Complete GR20 solo: 2 pieces
The free set only works one time. If you start a second char in any mode (sc/hc), you will not get it again.
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First time on leaderboard, only died once:
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On February 17 2016 14:01 Glacierz wrote:First time on leaderboard, only died once:
Gratz! Liquid represents!
The leader board doesn't show the gear and skill they had when setting the record right? Only links to whatever they happen to have at the moment?
Would be cool to see exactly the setup that made the records, instead of peoples smurf gear or speed running set.
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Caldeum1977 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:07 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 14:01 Glacierz wrote:First time on leaderboard, only died once: The leader board doesn't show the gear and skill they had when saying the record right? Only links to whatever they happen to have at the moment? Would be cool to see exactly the setup that made the records, instead of peoples smurf gear or speed running set.
It does show the gear/setup they were using when they got it. One option is to view their profile, then there's another to view the hero details or something that shows it.
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Yea, right click and choose show hero details gives you the snapshot of the gear used for the clear.
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On the top of HC 4 players group EU I can see some of them wearing low level weapons (the wizz), with an experience gem inside, and sometime even just random crappy stuff.
Did they really do it this way or is that a display bug?
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You mean at the moment right? Those are probably zdps / support characters stacking xp gear. Although, I'm not too sure if it's still worth doing it like that this season (that's how groups leveled last season, but I believe they nerfed it).
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The gear display can sometime bug out too, it's not always reliable. Right now the top 4-man groups seem to be ET wiz + 3 supports, seems really boring abusing the ET mechanics.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
played some more with my DMO wiz with this build i found on reddit.
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/69933-quin69-gr88-dmo-wizard-solo
seems like this one is only good for pushing higher GRs and not very fast for regular TX farming. I can kill and run around fast enough to not be a burden but these tal-rasha wand of woh guys just zip past mobs.
the speed limit for me seems to be the cooldown on slow time. having to spam the generator is not fast enough to keep up with these woh walkers.
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On February 20 2016 12:55 oneofthem wrote:played some more with my DMO wiz with this build i found on reddit. http://www.diablofans.com/builds/69933-quin69-gr88-dmo-wizard-soloseems like this one is only good for pushing higher GRs and not very fast for regular TX farming. I can kill and run around fast enough to not be a burden but these tal-rasha wand of woh guys just zip past mobs. the speed limit for me seems to be the cooldown on slow time. having to spam the generator is not fast enough to keep up with these woh walkers.
Yeah this build is strictly for higher (like 60+) GRs. There are much more efficient builds for TX. You could probably piece something together with DMO that can do TX better but like you said the slow time cooldown will get frustrating depending on the build/gear setup.
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On February 20 2016 13:12 Duka08 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2016 12:55 oneofthem wrote:played some more with my DMO wiz with this build i found on reddit. http://www.diablofans.com/builds/69933-quin69-gr88-dmo-wizard-soloseems like this one is only good for pushing higher GRs and not very fast for regular TX farming. I can kill and run around fast enough to not be a burden but these tal-rasha wand of woh guys just zip past mobs. the speed limit for me seems to be the cooldown on slow time. having to spam the generator is not fast enough to keep up with these woh walkers. Yeah this build is strictly for higher (like 60+) GRs. There are much more efficient builds for TX. You could probably piece something together with DMO that can do TX better but like you said the slow time cooldown will get frustrating depending on the build/gear setup.
Yes, definitely not a TX build. I do GR 65 and GR 45 at almost the same speed (~10 minutes) with that build (following the same guide). You deal incredible damage to burst down anything, but it has a long set-up time.
If you don't have the items for the flash fire build (wow so rare!), or find in-geom builds too stressful, try the aether walker tal-rasha + firebird build, that is almost as fast, and a lot more consistent in low density (so works fine for bounties as well). There should be a link to it quite a few pages back....
The basic idea is:
- 4 piece firebirds
- 6 piece tal rasha
(cube rorg)
- aether walker
get 4 skills of different elements (teleport calamity one of them) and teleport around and kill things by triggering firebirds DOT, powered by tal-rashas DPS modifier. That's it. The rest is a bit as you want, but this is what I do, which I think is essentially what the guide said:
Flame wave is the most common fire dps to trigger firebirds. Then two booster, like magic weapon or sparkflint and an armour of choice. Passives will likely be audacity, elemental exposure, and then two a bit more open, depending on how much trouble you have with energy/staying alive/killing things.
You'll go through you energy very (very) fast, so you need shame of delsere. To trigger that, you can use magic blade (of appropriate element) and cube shard of destiny for silly attack-speed energy generation (and DPS). I usually pick blizzard-snowbound as last skill for the low energy cost and convenient freeze.
I use focus and restraint for more dps.
For defense, you can cube goldwrap and socket boon of the hoarder for toughness far into the billions like in the flash fire build. I have found that the domination passive, and the shielding magic weapon with the bracers with + % shields works perfectly fine as well with just slightly less suicidal play style (like, maybe teleport out of those 10 overlapping molten explosions), and allows you to speed-run low level GR (45-50 or so), where you wouldnt be able to use goldwrap.
Play style is to first use up all the 4 elements, and then you teleport to new place, heat wave once to trigger firebirds, move on. Mix in blades when low on energy or every 4 seconds to trigger focus restraint. Repeated blades on elite packs deals about as much damage as repeated flame waves, but you gain energy, so take the chance to attack with blades a couple of seconds once you have triggered firebirds on elites. It'll kill them faster (you need to stay around for the globes/death breath anyway) and will fill up your energy bar in the meanwhile.
I usually solo a GR45 in around 3 minutes with that build. Almost never more than 4, and I think I made one in 1.50. Flash fire will maybe be slightly faster on average, and very likely have a much lower fastest time when you get a great rift, but you also get really annoying rifts sometimes when you keep losing in-geom. I definitely keep up with the flash fire wizards in public 4-man rifts, and sometimes get ahead of them quite a bit when they lose in-geom in mob-sparse areas. It works together with well with flash-fire actually, as I can help them finding and killing the first elite that triggers in-geom for them, and then all the wizards set off in this crazy high-speed swarm of explosions from the wow and heat waves.
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With small modification to the base SMO build I can do boulties and lower GR (45-60) quite fast too (<5 min).
And for TX, I use a modified version of WOH wizz with sage, but you need to have to a solid heart because it's not very safe (playing HC only), but damn it's fun!
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On February 20 2016 20:42 AbouSV wrote:
With small modification to the base SMO build I can do boulties and lower GR (45-60) quite fast too (<5 min).
And for TX, I use a modified version of WOH wizz with sage, but you need to have to a solid heart because it's not very safe (playing HC only), but damn it's fun!
You do GR60 with a DMO-based build in 5 min? I'd like to see that. What setup/playstyle is that?
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
i do have some good gear for the tal rasha plus fire build. i do like the melee tankiness of the dmo build, having exclusively played adhd dh in the past so i think i'll just play a bit more with dmo to practice the skill rotations and make a dh on the side for random farming
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I pushed Gr 77,78,79,80 with DMO wizard in the same GR setup. A lot of Golgors, winged Assasins, and Lacuni. Mobs jump at you or stay close. This is good for mele build like that.
For TX I played with flashfire with in-geom in cube and goldwrap/boon of the hoarder.
For gr45-50 leveling gems I played with nilfur boots. without goldwarp ofc.The meteors are pretty nice if you lack In-geom buff.
In higher gr50s flashfire wasn't very good for me. You start to run out of buffs wat to quickly imo.
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Flashfire isn't that fun to play. Everything dies so fast. Well not play with it for very long or you can feel bit strange.
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On February 20 2016 22:06 Solmyr wrote:
I pushed Gr 77,78,79,80 with DMO wizard in the same GR setup. A lot of Golgors, winged Assasins, and Lacuni. Mobs jump at you or stay close. This is good for mele build like that.
For TX I played with flashfire with in-geom in cube and goldwrap/boon of the hoarder.
For gr45-50 leveling gems I played with nilfur boots. without goldwarp ofc.The meteors are pretty nice if you lack In-geom buff.
In higher gr50s flashfire wasn't very good for me. You start to run out of buffs wat to quickly imo.
Can I ask, if 80 was your max with fishing for a perfect rift, what was the GR where you could just open a rift and consistently make it? Say like 80% of the times or so?
I am getting decent gear now (all pieces, ancient weapon 1.5M sheet dps, a lot of area damage) but struggle to finish 70 or even high 60 consistently below 15 mins. I'm wondering if I am just not playing it right...
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
maybe run past undesirable mobs?
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I have a rule of thumb that I only stop if I can gather 5-10 mobs in the same place pretty quickly. And I kill almost all elites, unless they are particularly annoying, such as champions of archers that tend to run apart from each other.
But yeah, maybe I should skip some mob types entirely, even if they are clumped up?
It's a pity you can't send replays in D3.
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