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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
February 03 2016 22:43 GMT
#21041
i don't know then. i feel quite useless even with dps during group rifts. DH doesn't feel like it offers a lot. all i see are saders
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 22:48:25
February 03 2016 22:46 GMT
#21042
was it ancient? i made 100HF this season, 2 ancients, both useless, out of that only 2 were remotely useful... fml

Yeah it was ancient, so would have been perfect for augments and LoN builds. Maybe I shouldn't complain too much though, considering I found an almost 3.4k dps Yang's and a 3.3k dps dagger of darts in the first three days of the season.

edit: Saders, in group rifts? Wut? They are pretty much the only class more in the shitter than DH in the group meta right now.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
February 03 2016 22:55 GMT
#21043
Some guy told me Rolands set is bad. Can't really agree with that, and attacking with 250 % asp is fun. Is TotI that much superior?

I also didnt upgrade any ancient item, what happens with it?
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
February 03 2016 22:57 GMT
#21044
On February 04 2016 07:46 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
was it ancient? i made 100HF this season, 2 ancients, both useless, out of that only 2 were remotely useful... fml

Yeah it was ancient, so would have been perfect for augments and LoN builds. Maybe I shouldn't complain too much though, considering I found an almost 3.4k dps Yang's and a 3.3k dps dagger of darts in the first three days of the season.

edit: Saders, in group rifts? Wut? They are pretty much the only class more in the shitter than DH in the group meta right now.


yer. just saders horsies and those barrels from the sky. i just came back to d3 this season, so i have no idea about a lot of things tbh. but monks are basically extinct.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
February 03 2016 23:15 GMT
#21045
On February 04 2016 06:52 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 05:31 Faruko wrote:
What about CoE + FOK + Greenstone ? That could be a way to get rid of trashmob (or at least enough to impale the elites)


They nerfed greenstone to 100% from 300%, so its not enough damage to kill trash, and would only proc every 30s. If not skipping trash, chakram is probably better, that kills trash pretty quick, and elites at the same time. But overall slower on elites alone, and slow on boss. =\

Edit: Talking about group grifts, if it wasnt clear.

holy shit they killed fan of knives
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
February 04 2016 02:45 GMT
#21046
yeah i tried S6 impale FoK build for a while with ancient greenstone dagger, gave up at high enough GR when FoK no longer 1shot trash mobs. it's a fun build to play compared to UE6 multishot though. also fun in group GR when I just do nothing for 99% of the time and then casually pop the rg in a few hits
ELqQQT_T
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
February 04 2016 05:25 GMT
#21047
so what is the best setup for solo DH? M6?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
February 04 2016 07:11 GMT
#21048
On February 04 2016 14:25 Doraemon wrote:
so what is the best setup for solo DH? M6?

depends on your definition of best. m6 is by far the most consistent build. it doesn't care too much about rift layout and mob type.
theorycrafters and the best dhs who reached #1 a few times expect nats and lon strafe on the top of the leaderboard when the season ends as they have slightly more potential given the perfect rift. one of them recently said on stream that nats might be 2-3 grift levels higher but it's a 1000 times less consistent.

tldr: if you want to open a rift and have a good shot at finishing it -> m6
if you want to fish using 1000 grift keys -> nats
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
February 04 2016 08:19 GMT
#21049
On February 04 2016 16:11 smr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 14:25 Doraemon wrote:
so what is the best setup for solo DH? M6?

depends on your definition of best. m6 is by far the most consistent build. it doesn't care too much about rift layout and mob type.
theorycrafters and the best dhs who reached #1 a few times expect nats and lon strafe on the top of the leaderboard when the season ends as they have slightly more potential given the perfect rift. one of them recently said on stream that nats might be 2-3 grift levels higher but it's a 1000 times less consistent.

tldr: if you want to open a rift and have a good shot at finishing it -> m6
if you want to fish using 1000 grift keys -> nats


I can say that GR70ish isn't too tough to reach solo without all the perfect gear, with marauder set. Tried both with chakram and multishot, but chakram is much more stable.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
February 04 2016 12:05 GMT
#21050
What rune for Chakram ? I guess Razor Disk ?

I havent had that much luck with that build.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
February 04 2016 22:37 GMT
#21051
On February 04 2016 17:19 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 16:11 smr wrote:
On February 04 2016 14:25 Doraemon wrote:
so what is the best setup for solo DH? M6?

depends on your definition of best. m6 is by far the most consistent build. it doesn't care too much about rift layout and mob type.
theorycrafters and the best dhs who reached #1 a few times expect nats and lon strafe on the top of the leaderboard when the season ends as they have slightly more potential given the perfect rift. one of them recently said on stream that nats might be 2-3 grift levels higher but it's a 1000 times less consistent.

tldr: if you want to open a rift and have a good shot at finishing it -> m6
if you want to fish using 1000 grift keys -> nats


I can say that GR70ish isn't too tough to reach solo without all the perfect gear, with marauder set. Tried both with chakram and multishot, but chakram is much more stable.


interesting, i'm on 71 one now with UE Fire... doing it in around 12. i have nearly full ancients and about 4 pieces augmented. got ancient FnR drop but the worst possible rolls... i'm just worried how constraint this build is given i've spent 100% of my time grinding for it.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
February 04 2016 22:44 GMT
#21052
Yeah Chakram is the one I made it highest with. Razor disk, with sword of ill will in cube, and using an almost perfect ancient Dawn.

Right now for groups I'm sticking with Impale, but I went super defensive, since the damage output is more than high enough anyway. Visage, elusive ring and dawn in cube, all sockets diamonds, leech passive, awareness passive, boar pet, bracers of clarity (I think theyre called, that proc dmg reduction on hatred spenders) and taeguk. With permanent smoke screen from the set, I can facetank pretty much any situation in GR65 group rifts, which I hope should mean I could do up to 75ish if I vault around and play carefully. It has 0 solo potential, though, but that's OK.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
February 05 2016 13:54 GMT
#21053
Close to getting grift lvl70 on my 2nd char. Finished 69 with Inna-Pet Monk. Tried 70 twice but survivability starts to become an issue. Still better then expected without an ancient weapon (my normal one has pretty good rolls tbf). I enjoy the playstyle of gathering a huge amount of trash after playing so many hours of dh but I start to wonder if CoE is healthy for the game. The item makes sure that we don't just mash the buttons but coordinate cooldowns with the correct phase but it's so much better then every other dmg-ring bar the set-rings.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-05 14:37:56
February 05 2016 14:31 GMT
#21054
I cant seem to get M6 Chakram to work
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-05 19:33:25
February 05 2016 19:33 GMT
#21055
Hey looking for more Crusader advice. I just beat GRift 69 last night with 5 seconds remaining (could've gotten a better roll on mob density), but I was trying to use Steed Charge with Spiked Barding as almost everyone is using and it doesn't seem to do anything. I've talked with a Crusader friend of mine and he was trying to explain to me how it works and that it does 'massive' damage and you can 'solo GRift 80+ with it' but I just don't see it.

Any advice on using Steed Charge (Spiked Barding)? I'm starting to think it's just a massive troll in the D3 community that I don't know about. x.x
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
February 05 2016 20:24 GMT
#21056
On February 06 2016 04:33 Mistakes wrote:
Hey looking for more Crusader advice. I just beat GRift 69 last night with 5 seconds remaining (could've gotten a better roll on mob density), but I was trying to use Steed Charge with Spiked Barding as almost everyone is using and it doesn't seem to do anything. I've talked with a Crusader friend of mine and he was trying to explain to me how it works and that it does 'massive' damage and you can 'solo GRift 80+ with it' but I just don't see it.

Any advice on using Steed Charge (Spiked Barding)? I'm starting to think it's just a massive troll in the D3 community that I don't know about. x.x

I was under the impression that the spiked steed was for fast T10 farming and not progression. Are people making that work in high GR now...?
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
February 05 2016 20:31 GMT
#21057
On February 06 2016 05:24 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:33 Mistakes wrote:
Hey looking for more Crusader advice. I just beat GRift 69 last night with 5 seconds remaining (could've gotten a better roll on mob density), but I was trying to use Steed Charge with Spiked Barding as almost everyone is using and it doesn't seem to do anything. I've talked with a Crusader friend of mine and he was trying to explain to me how it works and that it does 'massive' damage and you can 'solo GRift 80+ with it' but I just don't see it.

Any advice on using Steed Charge (Spiked Barding)? I'm starting to think it's just a massive troll in the D3 community that I don't know about. x.x

I was under the impression that the spiked steed was for fast T10 farming and not progression. Are people making that work in high GR now...?


Well even in T10 my steed (at least with Invoker/Punish build) didn't kill things when I rode through them on T10 so it wasn't even useful there. I was just using Endurance to quickly find elites.
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-05 20:48:00
February 05 2016 20:43 GMT
#21058
On February 06 2016 05:31 Mistakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 05:24 Duka08 wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:33 Mistakes wrote:
Hey looking for more Crusader advice. I just beat GRift 69 last night with 5 seconds remaining (could've gotten a better roll on mob density), but I was trying to use Steed Charge with Spiked Barding as almost everyone is using and it doesn't seem to do anything. I've talked with a Crusader friend of mine and he was trying to explain to me how it works and that it does 'massive' damage and you can 'solo GRift 80+ with it' but I just don't see it.

Any advice on using Steed Charge (Spiked Barding)? I'm starting to think it's just a massive troll in the D3 community that I don't know about. x.x

I was under the impression that the spiked steed was for fast T10 farming and not progression. Are people making that work in high GR now...?


Well even in T10 my steed (at least with Invoker/Punish build) didn't kill things when I rode through them on T10 so it wasn't even useful there. I was just using Endurance to quickly find elites.


Steed charge isn't the main dmg dealer in either Invoker/Punish or LoN. For LoN, you kill stuff with Bombardment, for Invoker's you kill stuff with punish.

I use spiked barding with my LoN build because it clears TX mobs by just pass through them with all ancient gear. It does very little dmg when used with Invoker's.

Here's a speedrift build for your reference. Replace shoulders with homing pad with 8% CDR, you get 100% uptime for steed charge spiked barding. Alternatively you can also use in-geom in cube:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/70965851
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 05 2016 22:37 GMT
#21059
What's the best way to farm for items? Seems like bounties are only really useful to do a few times for the gem recipes and mats to cube unique powers and rifts and grifts appear to be better for both gear and exp. Are either rifts or grifts better or are they basically interchangable aside from gem leveling?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-05 22:48:13
February 05 2016 22:47 GMT
#21060
Get your 6-piece set, queue for TX public rifts, slam genitalia on keyboard, collect legendaries. This is a good way to start off until you get the basic offset legs for whatever set you're using and collect the keys you need for Grifts.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
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