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KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 00:29:32
July 12 2011 00:00 GMT
#401
On July 06 2011 21:26 paina wrote:


this comeback is a must see.


oh my god


I need to start playing quake

any tips for a beginner as far as settings go ?

when people in this thread say quake is dead what do they mean ? Just the competitive scene or the game in general ?
cryoK
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada11 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 08:21:39
July 12 2011 08:19 GMT
#402
On July 12 2011 09:00 ShooTouts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 21:26 paina wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59sXXggMb8&feature=player_embedded

this comeback is a must see.


oh my god


I need to start playing quake

any tips for a beginner as far as settings go ?

when people in this thread say quake is dead what do they mean ? Just the competitive scene or the game in general ?


Well you can just mingle with the in game options and advanced options. Read this guide: http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php?2898-The-QUAKE-LIVE-Console-Guide
For starters, /sensitivity sets your sensitivity.

Quake Live is pretty much dying, infact in the competitive scene, it has been dropped from IEM and ESWC: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2101917. Not enough spectators watching the streams and play quake. id doesn't seem to give a crap about QL advertisement and post worthless update. Also, new players never have a chance to enjoy the game since the learning curve is brutal and they resort to playing something easier like COD or Halo .
50mineral
Profile Joined June 2011
Hungary43 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 18:50:57
July 12 2011 18:49 GMT
#403
On July 12 2011 09:00 ShooTouts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 21:26 paina wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S59sXXggMb8&feature=player_embedded

this comeback is a must see.


oh my god


I need to start playing quake

any tips for a beginner as far as settings go ?

when people in this thread say quake is dead what do they mean ? Just the competitive scene or the game in general ?


download a pros config as far as settings goes especially visual these are all the best. getting used to bindigs might be hard but you can redefine keys just keep every weapons on separates keys.

tips for beginners: shows some respect. dont cry. dont quit from the match. be glad a better player wasting his time on you. you will have no chance for months if not a year, no matter how hard u try or how much u practice so try to always keep your head up.

quake is dead because the game is too hard and there isnt new players. the game is poorly advertised and not supported by the developer causing viewer number are low and tournaments started to dropping quake because of that. but quake was dead aswell many times in the past, its pretty much alive. you will have no problem finding a game in 2 mins if ure from europe.
50mineral
Profile Joined June 2011
Hungary43 Posts
July 20 2011 12:08 GMT
#404
cpm

RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 04 2011 00:21 GMT
#405
First time playing Quake Live today and I was pretty impressed by how fun it is to be running around so fast hopping all over shooting stuff. Never did want to check it out until now and I gotta admit its pretty damn hard to actually get shots on the bots for newbs like me I was surprised by that lol. Can definitely see why so many people have enjoyed the games over the years, think I'll buy all the old Quake games on Steam sometime. :D
K_Dilkington
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden449 Posts
August 04 2011 00:32 GMT
#406
On July 12 2011 17:19 cryoK wrote:

Quake Live is pretty much dying, infact in the competitive scene, it has been dropped from IEM and ESWC: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2101917. Not enough spectators watching the streams and play quake. id doesn't seem to give a crap about QL advertisement and post worthless update. Also, new players never have a chance to enjoy the game since the learning curve is brutal and they resort to playing something easier like COD or Halo .


The problem for this game, that I love, is that the learning curve is so brutal for newcomers. It's harder than strarcraft and the scene is small, which makes it even harder. It's sad that games like CoD and Halo is played competitively over a game like Quake, which is much more suited for it.
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by the age of 18
epicopter
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada177 Posts
August 04 2011 04:13 GMT
#407
On August 04 2011 09:32 K_Dilkington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 17:19 cryoK wrote:

Quake Live is pretty much dying, infact in the competitive scene, it has been dropped from IEM and ESWC: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2101917. Not enough spectators watching the streams and play quake. id doesn't seem to give a crap about QL advertisement and post worthless update. Also, new players never have a chance to enjoy the game since the learning curve is brutal and they resort to playing something easier like COD or Halo .


The problem for this game, that I love, is that the learning curve is so brutal for newcomers. It's harder than strarcraft and the scene is small, which makes it even harder. It's sad that games like CoD and Halo is played competitively over a game like Quake, which is much more suited for it.


If Quake 5 came out and was made with esports in mind like Starcraft 2 was I'm sure it would become an extremely popular competitive FPS. The same thing happened with Brood War, the community outside of Korea was tiny and the tournaments extremely small scale but when Starcraft 2 arrived there was a large boom because a lot of new players and returning players felt like it was a fresh start. The biggest problem with Quake is there is no influx of newer players to the scene.

It's true that the learning curve in Quake is extremely steep and it's very hard to just jump into Quake 3/Live at this point. If a new Quake were to come out it will give newer players the feeling that they aren't too late to the party.

We do need a real competitive FPS to take over from Halo and Call of Duty, they are jokes, but it's up to a developer to step up and make a game for the esport community.
sk1nex
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland299 Posts
August 04 2011 05:45 GMT
#408
When people claim that QuakeLive / Quake in general is dying, they pretty much mean the eSports scene. To tell the truth ID Software doesn't give a fuck about the game, and they have pretty much ignored most of the community's hopes and requests for QL. QuakeCon is coming up, and most likely it will end up like last year: bad streams / no streams at all, sick amount of delays, no VODs and weird tournament structures with bad choice of maps. Both duel and TDM grand finals are played in two parts, first map from both, and then they have to make room for Brink finals which will be played in full. Why? Because ID really seems to care only about the money, at the expense of the players support.

Within the last few months more and more tournament organisations have decided to drop QL from their schedule (IEM for example), and going with a pace like this, there won't be any of the big tournaments left within one year.

I've been such a die hard fan and player of Quake since ages ago, and i'd hate to see it go away. QL doesn't have any competitors on the 1v1 FPS field, and they could easily dominate the scene by doing small fixes and actually opening up their ears.
"Im at Quakecon, Gonna win the Duel and TDM. Quake is easy" (c) 2GD | NTHNTHNTHNTHNTHNTH
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
August 04 2011 12:19 GMT
#409
On July 20 2011 21:08 50mineral wrote:
cpm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YceuXmeWrU&feature=channel_video_title

Yeah, too bad they actually failed to do what they attempted: the original QuakeWorld gameplay was watered down (less explosion concussion, watered down weapons and addition of abysmal strafe jumping mechanics) and the game right now is not even as popular as the original QuakeWorld, not to mention its client development is ages behind Ezquake and FTEQW.
Aah thats the stuff..
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
August 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#410
On August 04 2011 09:32 K_Dilkington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 17:19 cryoK wrote:

Quake Live is pretty much dying, infact in the competitive scene, it has been dropped from IEM and ESWC: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2101917. Not enough spectators watching the streams and play quake. id doesn't seem to give a crap about QL advertisement and post worthless update. Also, new players never have a chance to enjoy the game since the learning curve is brutal and they resort to playing something easier like COD or Halo .


The problem for this game, that I love, is that the learning curve is so brutal for newcomers. It's harder than strarcraft and the scene is small, which makes it even harder. It's sad that games like CoD and Halo is played competitively over a game like Quake, which is much more suited for it.

I disagree. The level at the low tier QL servers is pretty low.. a guy who has some basic experience with the "tactical" shooters could easily hold his own there, without coming in contact with the brutality of veteran players.

The problem with Quake is a different sort. It is the structure of tension build up and release. As any entertainment, the key component to enjoying it is having pressure build up in low intensity time (like early game of starcraft, being dead in cs and most of cs round time where there is no action) and increase until reaching the culmination of action where it is released and the result takes place.

Quake by its very premise doesnt have this structure of tension that other games do. Instead it is all action all the time, except for the clan arena game type. and as such its popularity is limited.
Aah thats the stuff..
Mastertouch
Profile Joined October 2010
United States136 Posts
August 22 2011 06:32 GMT
#411
http://www.rumblepit.org/
hosting na tournament

check out my site and give back feedback =)

hey hey hey
50mineral
Profile Joined June 2011
Hungary43 Posts
August 27 2011 02:08 GMT
#412
http://www.qlranks.com/

ladders (beta). automatically ranks every player that played a duel game.
50mineral
Profile Joined June 2011
Hungary43 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 13:47:06
September 11 2011 13:38 GMT
#413
http://qlive.zotac-cup.com/en/cups/154-zotac-quake-live-cup-100/matches/4

100th Zotac cup now with extra prizes, lot of very good players signed up.

watch here:
http://www.levelupyourgame.net/

tv1, hf!
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
September 17 2011 15:25 GMT
#414
I'm having a really hard time finding out any quake live information/stream link/schedule for Dreamhack Valencia..the "festival schedule" on their site is in swedish or something so it's hard to decipher..plus it doesnt seem to include everything (where's the sc2 matches?)
http://www.dreamhack.se/DHS11/programme/festival-schedule/

anyone can help me with this?
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
olbas
Profile Joined November 2010
United States53 Posts
September 17 2011 16:13 GMT
#415
I'm pretty sure there's no Quake at Dreamhack Valencia.
.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
September 26 2011 11:17 GMT
#416
On August 27 2011 11:08 50mineral wrote:
http://www.qlranks.com/

ladders (beta). automatically ranks every player that played a duel game.

now works with TDM as well
eujjjjj
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 13:20:34
October 01 2011 13:20 GMT
#417
http://www.own3d.tv/live/115482/JeeSports_TV

LIVE now with Zoot

Watch if ya like guys

#jeesports.ql IRC
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
October 07 2011 10:53 GMT
#418
Bump because I'd hate to see this thread die.

Does anyone know what/when is the next major QL tourney? I'd like to catch it live if possible.
Logic is Overrated
Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 16:39:01
October 08 2011 16:37 GMT
#419
On August 04 2011 21:32 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 09:32 K_Dilkington wrote:
On July 12 2011 17:19 cryoK wrote:

Quake Live is pretty much dying, infact in the competitive scene, it has been dropped from IEM and ESWC: http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2101917. Not enough spectators watching the streams and play quake. id doesn't seem to give a crap about QL advertisement and post worthless update. Also, new players never have a chance to enjoy the game since the learning curve is brutal and they resort to playing something easier like COD or Halo .


The problem for this game, that I love, is that the learning curve is so brutal for newcomers. It's harder than strarcraft and the scene is small, which makes it even harder. It's sad that games like CoD and Halo is played competitively over a game like Quake, which is much more suited for it.


The problem with Quake is a different sort. It is the structure of tension build up and release. As any entertainment, the key component to enjoying it is having pressure build up in low intensity time (like early game of starcraft, being dead in cs and most of cs round time where there is no action) and increase until reaching the culmination of action where it is released and the result takes place.

Quake by its very premise doesnt have this structure of tension that other games do. Instead it is all action all the time, except for the clan arena game type. and as such its popularity is limited.


Late response, but I disagree wholeheartedly with this. One of the many great things about Quake (duel) is that it can be played in a number of ways: Fast paced, back and forth, or slow and methodical with a build up. Opposed to say, Starcraft, where generally there is always a build up at the beginning and no tension besides the spectator knowing what may come by seeing both build orders, a Quake duel could open up and there could be instant action right away and it could be non-stop till the end of the duel. Or there could be no action and nothing but item and map control where neither player commits to any battle for basically the whole duel until one deciding frag, hence build up of tension

Prime examples of this would be watching a Cypher vs Avek duel where they usually play like two boxers standing in the middle of the ring exchanging punches the whole time, constant action all the time. But then you could have a match like Cooller vs Rapha where they are more like two chess players meticulously plotting every action and the game could end up into a 0-0 overtime or a 1-0 or 2-0 victory that is decided in the last couple minutes. Matches like that are extremely intense to watch where every item pickup and every little bit of damage is crucial.
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin
thecoupe
Profile Joined June 2011
United States77 Posts
October 09 2011 02:27 GMT
#420
On October 07 2011 19:53 Newbistic wrote:
Bump because I'd hate to see this thread die.

Does anyone know what/when is the next major QL tourney? I'd like to catch it live if possible.


I'm pretty sure that Dreamhack Winter is the next big QL tourney.
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