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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 03 2010 14:13 GMT
#10001
top 1500 lf 5 man premade team for tournament and stuff, pst
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
August 03 2010 14:17 GMT
#10002
Btw, anyone tried a trilane opener gank with Kass when you have a skillshot/buff char in your team? They can theoretically charge up your E right at the fountain. Having an AoE slow on top of what your other team has to offer is like, cool.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 14:21:41
August 03 2010 14:19 GMT
#10003
I can't think of anyone who'd charge it up fast enough unless you have someone like Ezreal... and even so, why not use Sion instead?

EDIT: actually screw that, it's fast enough since I guess you won't be roaming around at the start
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 03 2010 14:23 GMT
#10004
On August 03 2010 23:13 Phrost wrote:
top 1500 lf 5 man premade team for tournament and stuff, pst


zzz but I randomly rage.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2010 14:35 GMT
#10005
On August 03 2010 17:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 17:39 Mogwai wrote:
On August 03 2010 15:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
L0cust, Classick, cFang, Xpecial, TheOddOne

L0CUST has legitimately impressed me most of the time I've had to play against him. I dunno if he can carry, but he's been a really good role player every time I see him.

I think I've played a couple games with Classick but he didn't leave a huge impression.

Terrible night of LoLing tonight, lost a ton, won one of the hardest fought games of my life, and for that win... 12 Elo!

[image loading]

fuck that shit. fuck it in the ass with broomstick. we won 4v5, with a fucking retarded feeder ashe who lost us the game by all rights like, at least 3 times, I want a goddamn medal, or at least like, 20 Elo. But fuck 12, that's some goddamn bullshit for pulling a game like that.

p.s. Kayle v Tower imba.

killamaim left a few games I've played too, and the master feed on the other team only plays master feed.

uhg, that yi was really underwhelming, but even an underwhelming Yi who gets to free-farm and solo push all game is a gigantic pain in the ass. it was just such a bitch because Yi's Existence basically ate up WW and I's ult every fight. WW opens up ulting him, we all focus him, he re-spawns off GA, I have to shield myself or WW so that he does no damage for lifesteal. So then we have to essentially 3v4 with 2 ults on CD every fight. UHG, late game Yi is such a gigantic faggot.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 03 2010 14:43 GMT
#10006
On August 03 2010 18:08 Ruken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 13:41 myopia wrote:
Which of Nasus' skills are Physical/Magic damage? I'm racking up more physical damage than magic in my games though I swear everything he does is magic.

Unless Sheen is physical and I'm doing much more damage with it than I realized.


and does this mean I should be running APen rather than MPen (not that I can afford another 9 runes right now)


also does Strength of Spirit stack with Expanded Mind (wow a full .0002 more HP/5 !!!)

+ Show Spoiler +

*NASUS*

I main Nasus and probably play him more than anyone in the game cuz he's my dog.

Siphon Strike - Physical (His tooltip is broken to say its magical right now. Riot posted this on the forum)

Wither - No damage but it's the best slow in the game. -35% movement and attack speed and an additional 15% every second for 5 seconds.

Spirit Fire - Magic. Although it makes you do more physical damage by reducing armor by 40.

Fury of the Sands - Magical AoE damge. All damage they take from your AoE is converted into BONUS physical damage (250 max from the bonus). With this, Nasus can do insane damage.

You'll probably have Trinity Force, but at least a sheen (you should). So here's the right way to team fight with Nasus:
-Wait for someone to initiate,
-cast spirit fire in the middle for -40 armor debuff,
-do whatever you need to do to get into the middle of that fight. Cast your ghost/cleanse if you have to.
-Cast wither on their carry or whoever is going to damage your team the most. (Wither will make someone like Twitch a non factor for basically the whole fight.)
-Hit someone with the sheen proc
-Pop your ultimate and hit another sheen proc
-Use siphon strike and hit with that plus sheen proc

It's very important to time your sheen procs for maximum damage without overlapping siphon strike until you need too because of it's four second cooldown.

You see? You can do crazy damage with Nasus without building virtually any DPS item. At level 18 you'll have your basic attack(185) + potentially maxed ultimate(250) + siphon strike(200) + sheen(387) =1022 damage... minus whatever their armor is giving them after your debuffs.

I admit 200 siphon strike is a bit generous, but by level 18 you should for sure be around 120 or so.

Nasus is all about burst damage and it's not unusual to hit an Ashe and take half her HP away in the late game. He's a support/off tank, not a champ you're going to solo mid and carry the team with.

[image loading]



So the Syphon Strike tooltip is a lie, and his ult gives bonus physical as well. Cool, I'll definitely be swapping out the MPen for APen before I start ranked.

I've been playing tank Nasus in all my games so far, building something like this:

0/17/13 - (meditation and utility mastery are far too good to ignore IMO)
MPen / Dodge / CDRplvl / Flat HP
Cleanse / Ghost

QWQEQR // R>Q>E>W

Mana Crystal + 2 HP
Sheen
Merc Treads
Banshee's and/or Thornmail
GA
-whatever-


it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 14:48:02
August 03 2010 14:47 GMT
#10007
^ Since Nasus doesn't need to be aggressive during laning, I actually don't feel much pressure to put points in defensive. I usually just run a 0/9/21 with him, as I think I'd rather have the movespeed and CDRs than the small damage and 30 HP or so (21 in Utility vs. Cleanse Mastery is pretty much a wash).
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
August 03 2010 14:54 GMT
#10008
Someone posted a suggestion on the official forums. POTENTIALLY HELPFUL addition to Ranked Solo Queue:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=152263

FADC
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2010 14:57 GMT
#10009
herp de derp... wonder where I ended last night on the ladder...

[image loading]

o hai thar!
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 03 2010 15:02 GMT
#10010
On August 03 2010 17:39 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 15:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
L0cust, Classick, cFang, Xpecial, TheOddOne

L0CUST has legitimately impressed me most of the time I've had to play against him. I dunno if he can carry, but he's been a really good role player every time I see him.

I think I've played a couple games with Classick but he didn't leave a huge impression.

Terrible night of LoLing tonight, lost a ton, won one of the hardest fought games of my life, and for that win... 12 Elo!

[image loading]

fuck that shit. fuck it in the ass with broomstick. we won 4v5, with a fucking retarded feeder ashe who lost us the game by all rights like, at least 3 times, I want a goddamn medal, or at least like, 20 Elo. But fuck 12, that's some goddamn bullshit for pulling a game like that.

p.s. Kayle v Tower imba.

Kayle got me over 1500 with a bunch of games like this too. <3 Kayle
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 03 2010 15:02 GMT
#10011
I fell to 204 Guh, going 1-1 and losing 6 points ftw.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 03 2010 15:09 GMT
#10012
On August 03 2010 17:34 Shikyo wrote:
Hmm he totally destroyed Grandjudge in solo mid and went 8-1 vs Grandjudge's premade. Yeah hotshot is good

Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 17:10 Southlight wrote:
On August 03 2010 13:56 Shikyo wrote:
Watching HotShotGG go 16-1 vs team AoN etc really makes me wonder why Southlight and co. think that he's not all that good.


It may be because I play a hero that completely fucks up his main.

Vs grandjudge kass he just went like +1 lvl and 40 - 6 minion kills =S

where is this game? is it at livestream.com/clgame ? cuz i cant find it there (but there are way too many vids for me to check...)
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
August 03 2010 15:16 GMT
#10013
Nony, they are mostly using http://www.justin.tv/clgame for their games now, I missed that game though, so no idea if it is archived there.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 15:20:13
August 03 2010 15:18 GMT
#10014
On August 04 2010 00:02 Southlight wrote:
I fell to 204 Guh, going 1-1 and losing 6 points ftw.

at least you have the self control to keep it at 1-1. I went like, 1-2 with my first three games last night, and was on tilt, then I decided to play like 3 or 4 more and only won 1 more. efffffffff, I dunno why I'm so bad at calling a bad night a night, but I think last night just had something to do with the fact that I was playing fine and kept getting teamed with fucking r-tards.

On August 04 2010 00:02 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 17:39 Mogwai wrote:
On August 03 2010 15:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
L0cust, Classick, cFang, Xpecial, TheOddOne

L0CUST has legitimately impressed me most of the time I've had to play against him. I dunno if he can carry, but he's been a really good role player every time I see him.

I think I've played a couple games with Classick but he didn't leave a huge impression.

Terrible night of LoLing tonight, lost a ton, won one of the hardest fought games of my life, and for that win... 12 Elo!

[image loading]

fuck that shit. fuck it in the ass with broomstick. we won 4v5, with a fucking retarded feeder ashe who lost us the game by all rights like, at least 3 times, I want a goddamn medal, or at least like, 20 Elo. But fuck 12, that's some goddamn bullshit for pulling a game like that.

p.s. Kayle v Tower imba.

Kayle got me over 1500 with a bunch of games like this too. <3 Kayle

lol, I'm very much a self hating Kayle player. fuck her, I want my Pantheon back, damnit. but yea, she's wicked good.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Nailpolish
Profile Joined June 2010
United States56 Posts
August 03 2010 15:21 GMT
#10015
they use justin.tv now.
http://www.justin.tv/c/clgame/b/267760928
skip to 1:10ish
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 03 2010 15:24 GMT
#10016
I want my panth back too. He was so fun to play but now I can hardly do anything with him but tickle someone and hope the die from laughing too hard...
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 03 2010 15:26 GMT
#10017
On August 04 2010 00:18 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 00:02 Southlight wrote:
I fell to 204 Guh, going 1-1 and losing 6 points ftw.

at least you have the self control to keep it at 1-1. I went like, 1-2 with my first three games last night, and was on tilt, then I decided to play like 3 or 4 more and only won 1 more. efffffffff, I dunno why I'm so bad at calling a bad night a night, but I think last night just had something to do with the fact that I was playing fine and kept getting teamed with fucking r-tards.


I went 7-3 over my past 10 and ended up like -6, so...
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2010 15:31 GMT
#10018
that's pretty weak, but I'm -48 from last night . granted, I "deserved" it with the shitty record, but uhg, I miss being 1570 :'(.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 03 2010 15:36 GMT
#10019
I miss being over 1600 -_- I keep waking up early too but I can't find Yiruru >_<
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 15:38:52
August 03 2010 15:37 GMT
#10020
On August 04 2010 00:24 STS17 wrote:
I want my panth back too. He was so fun to play but now I can hardly do anything with him but tickle someone and hope the die from laughing too hard...


I did some googling online to try and find if anyone had been experimenting with builds post-nerf on panth.

The only mildly successful one I found and tried:
http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guide/6669-pantheon-the-farmer-of-war.xhtml

Summary of guide: (I'd really just take a look at the guide it isn't completed yet so it is really short, more of an outline.

Core Items = Wriggles + Tiamat to clear creep waves and farm for bigger items later. (Madred's 500dmg proc + splash)

Strategy = Support DPS / Stunner

Problems = Same problem with Panth in general, the need for W and balancing between Q and E.

Possible solution = Go Q W early game/Lanning phase. At level 8-9 start getting E instead of Q.

Sadly, Pantheon's opening QWE level 3 combo really doesn't work anymore. He really has to wait for the tank to come along before engaging because his combo is really weak now.


EDIT: Forgot to point out this solution costs about 4k+ worth of items.
FADC
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