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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 08:04:53
August 03 2010 07:54 GMT
#9961
I need to start playing as Kassadin more, actually. I just realized I bought him like a million years ago <_>

grandjudge kass vs hotshot nidalee mid now, hotshot should lose the mid o_o
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 03 2010 08:10 GMT
#9962
On August 03 2010 13:56 Shikyo wrote:
Watching HotShotGG go 16-1 vs team AoN etc really makes me wonder why Southlight and co. think that he's not all that good.


It may be because I play a hero that completely fucks up his main.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 03 2010 08:18 GMT
#9963
On August 03 2010 17:10 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 13:56 Shikyo wrote:
Watching HotShotGG go 16-1 vs team AoN etc really makes me wonder why Southlight and co. think that he's not all that good.


It may be because I play a hero that completely fucks up his main.

Thats probally why.
In the woods, there lurks..
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
August 03 2010 08:23 GMT
#9964
goldenkrnboi on US server. i like to switch between cho'gath, ashe, and blitzcrank, in that order. i'm having the most fun with cho'gath.AP tank build cho'gath ftw. :D don't even know if that's an actual build. i just go straight for warmog's armor first than the 3+movement speed boots than pure ap.

i'm more than willing to try new characters though. veigar was pretty fun when i played him. and i don't understand how to play annie. lol. a lot of poeple say she's easy to use, but i just suck balls with her.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 08:34:51
August 03 2010 08:34 GMT
#9965
Hmm he totally destroyed Grandjudge in solo mid and went 8-1 vs Grandjudge's premade. Yeah hotshot is good

On August 03 2010 17:10 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 13:56 Shikyo wrote:
Watching HotShotGG go 16-1 vs team AoN etc really makes me wonder why Southlight and co. think that he's not all that good.


It may be because I play a hero that completely fucks up his main.

Vs grandjudge kass he just went like +1 lvl and 40 - 6 minion kills =S
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 03 2010 08:39 GMT
#9966
On August 03 2010 15:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
L0cust, Classick, cFang, Xpecial, TheOddOne

L0CUST has legitimately impressed me most of the time I've had to play against him. I dunno if he can carry, but he's been a really good role player every time I see him.

I think I've played a couple games with Classick but he didn't leave a huge impression.

Terrible night of LoLing tonight, lost a ton, won one of the hardest fought games of my life, and for that win... 12 Elo!

[image loading]

fuck that shit. fuck it in the ass with broomstick. we won 4v5, with a fucking retarded feeder ashe who lost us the game by all rights like, at least 3 times, I want a goddamn medal, or at least like, 20 Elo. But fuck 12, that's some goddamn bullshit for pulling a game like that.

p.s. Kayle v Tower imba.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 03 2010 08:43 GMT
#9967
On August 03 2010 17:23 goldenkrnboi wrote:
goldenkrnboi on US server. i like to switch between cho'gath, ashe, and blitzcrank, in that order. i'm having the most fun with cho'gath.AP tank build cho'gath ftw. :D don't even know if that's an actual build. i just go straight for warmog's armor first than the 3+movement speed boots than pure ap.

i'm more than willing to try new characters though. veigar was pretty fun when i played him. and i don't understand how to play annie. lol. a lot of poeple say she's easy to use, but i just suck balls with her.

As a veteran chogath player, take this advice: ween yourself off of warmog's before you start playing good players.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 03 2010 08:45 GMT
#9968
On August 03 2010 17:39 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 15:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
L0cust, Classick, cFang, Xpecial, TheOddOne

L0CUST has legitimately impressed me most of the time I've had to play against him. I dunno if he can carry, but he's been a really good role player every time I see him.

I think I've played a couple games with Classick but he didn't leave a huge impression.

Terrible night of LoLing tonight, lost a ton, won one of the hardest fought games of my life, and for that win... 12 Elo!

[image loading]

fuck that shit. fuck it in the ass with broomstick. we won 4v5, with a fucking retarded feeder ashe who lost us the game by all rights like, at least 3 times, I want a goddamn medal, or at least like, 20 Elo. But fuck 12, that's some goddamn bullshit for pulling a game like that.

p.s. Kayle v Tower imba.

killamaim left a few games I've played too, and the master feed on the other team only plays master feed.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
August 03 2010 09:02 GMT
#9969
So there's only action on US servers right? I can't recall anyone here being a top EU player.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 03 2010 09:02 GMT
#9970
Jesus fucking tits look at Karthus' creep score
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 09:21:00
August 03 2010 09:08 GMT
#9971
On August 03 2010 13:41 myopia wrote:
Which of Nasus' skills are Physical/Magic damage? I'm racking up more physical damage than magic in my games though I swear everything he does is magic.

Unless Sheen is physical and I'm doing much more damage with it than I realized.


and does this mean I should be running APen rather than MPen (not that I can afford another 9 runes right now)


also does Strength of Spirit stack with Expanded Mind (wow a full .0002 more HP/5 !!!)


*NASUS*

I main Nasus and probably play him more than anyone in the game cuz he's my dog.

Siphon Strike - Physical (His tooltip is broken to say its magical right now. Riot posted this on the forum)

Wither - No damage but it's the best slow in the game. -35% movement and attack speed and an additional 15% every second for 5 seconds.

Spirit Fire - Magic. Although it makes you do more physical damage by reducing armor by 40.

Fury of the Sands - Magical AoE damge. All damage they take from your AoE is converted into BONUS physical damage (250 max from the bonus). With this, Nasus can do insane damage.

You'll probably have Trinity Force, but at least a sheen (you should). So here's the right way to team fight with Nasus:
-Wait for someone to initiate,
-cast spirit fire in the middle for -40 armor debuff,
-do whatever you need to do to get into the middle of that fight. Cast your ghost/cleanse if you have to.
-Cast wither on their carry or whoever is going to damage your team the most. (Wither will make someone like Twitch a non factor for basically the whole fight.)
-Hit someone with the sheen proc
-Pop your ultimate and hit another sheen proc
-Use siphon strike and hit with that plus sheen proc

It's very important to time your sheen procs for maximum damage without overlapping siphon strike until you need too because of it's four second cooldown.

You see? You can do crazy damage with Nasus without building virtually any DPS item. At level 18 you'll have your basic attack(185) + potentially maxed ultimate(250) + siphon strike(200) + sheen(387) =1022 damage... minus whatever their armor is giving them after your debuffs.

I admit 200 siphon strike is a bit generous, but by level 18 you should for sure be around 120 or so.

Nasus is all about burst damage and it's not unusual to hit an Ashe and take half her HP away in the late game. He's a support/off tank, not a champ you're going to solo mid and carry the team with.

[image loading]
MIK Terran
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 03 2010 09:45 GMT
#9972
I've stopped making triforce, the extra 140 to like 500 dmg is crap and I prefer just mass sunfires with maybe banshees and lastly atmas, synergises with ulti too
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
lgd-haze
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden547 Posts
August 03 2010 09:49 GMT
#9973
Yesterday I tried ARAM for the first time, was awesome fun! And in the first game I teamed up with some familliar name. Sup Shikyo?

But it was the second match that was most fun. One guy in our team disconnects right at the start, and we all agree that this will be a steamroll. We lost a few guys in the opening, and the score was 1-6. But once we had hugged the tower to get level 5, and we got the crucial skills. The tides turned and our team composition really shone. Alistar kept us alive with innervating + his healing. I farmed minions with soul fire. If one guy got to close, I withered him and Ali ran in, pulverized and knocked back. So twitch could easily take the kill.

Once we all we got double aegis (Dont know if they stack, but we accidently bought 2) and had
our ults up, we we're practically a big bulldozer.

The best part is that the, probable, 1337-kid team LeToL started cheating and going back all the time mid game. While we had our spirits high, followed the rules and enjoyed the situation.

Note that I'm not doing this to brag, hell I'm probably a low ELO player.

Ah well, fun times.

[image loading]
Flying Tushin!!
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
August 03 2010 10:03 GMT
#9974
On August 03 2010 18:08 Ruken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 13:41 myopia wrote:
Which of Nasus' skills are Physical/Magic damage? I'm racking up more physical damage than magic in my games though I swear everything he does is magic.

Unless Sheen is physical and I'm doing much more damage with it than I realized.


and does this mean I should be running APen rather than MPen (not that I can afford another 9 runes right now)


also does Strength of Spirit stack with Expanded Mind (wow a full .0002 more HP/5 !!!)


*NASUS GUIDE POST*

[image loading]


I don't know if it's still as amazing as it used to be (works for me), but Not Give A Fuck Nasus build starting with Aegis works real well for me.

Doran's Shield, Aegis, Sheen-Tri-Force then Starks or Banshees depending on how not give a fuck you are.

Key to playing Nasus well: Don't give a fuck, kill their whole team without caring about anything/
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 10:06:13
August 03 2010 10:03 GMT
#9975
On August 03 2010 17:43 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 17:23 goldenkrnboi wrote:
goldenkrnboi on US server. i like to switch between cho'gath, ashe, and blitzcrank, in that order. i'm having the most fun with cho'gath.AP tank build cho'gath ftw. :D don't even know if that's an actual build. i just go straight for warmog's armor first than the 3+movement speed boots than pure ap.

i'm more than willing to try new characters though. veigar was pretty fun when i played him. and i don't understand how to play annie. lol. a lot of poeple say she's easy to use, but i just suck balls with her.

As a veteran chogath player, take this advice: ween yourself off of warmog's before you start playing good players.


? elaborate please and what do you suggest instead?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 03 2010 10:05 GMT
#9976
Protip:
With first ban, don't ban Shen against someone who's going to be a dick to you.

Shen
Amumu
Udyr
??????
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 03 2010 10:22 GMT
#9977
On August 03 2010 18:49 lgd-haze wrote:
Yesterday I tried ARAM for the first time, was awesome fun! And in the first game I teamed up with some familliar name. Sup Shikyo?

But it was the second match that was most fun. One guy in our team disconnects right at the start, and we all agree that this will be a steamroll. We lost a few guys in the opening, and the score was 1-6. But once we had hugged the tower to get level 5, and we got the crucial skills. The tides turned and our team composition really shone. Alistar kept us alive with innervating + his healing. I farmed minions with soul fire. If one guy got to close, I withered him and Ali ran in, pulverized and knocked back. So twitch could easily take the kill.

Once we all we got double aegis (Dont know if they stack, but we accidently bought 2) and had
our ults up, we we're practically a big bulldozer.

The best part is that the, probable, 1337-kid team LeToL started cheating and going back all the time mid game. While we had our spirits high, followed the rules and enjoyed the situation.

Note that I'm not doing this to brag, hell I'm probably a low ELO player.

Ah well, fun times.

[image loading]

That was a really awful game yeah, 2 fps the whole time with like 2 leavers -_- I was almost getting annoyed at the game even if it was a practice game over my limit and I wouldn't get any IP anyway
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 10:25:47
August 03 2010 10:25 GMT
#9978
On August 03 2010 19:03 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 17:43 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On August 03 2010 17:23 goldenkrnboi wrote:
goldenkrnboi on US server. i like to switch between cho'gath, ashe, and blitzcrank, in that order. i'm having the most fun with cho'gath.AP tank build cho'gath ftw. :D don't even know if that's an actual build. i just go straight for warmog's armor first than the 3+movement speed boots than pure ap.

i'm more than willing to try new characters though. veigar was pretty fun when i played him. and i don't understand how to play annie. lol. a lot of poeple say she's easy to use, but i just suck balls with her.

As a veteran chogath player, take this advice: ween yourself off of warmog's before you start playing good players.


? elaborate please and what do you suggest instead?

Warmogs is just bad, if you really want HP well you can just go for a RoA =P I think his build is pretty game-dependent so I'm not sure. For AP RoA -> Zhonya is a good start

EDIT: WTF it posted as a new post instead of editing -_
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 03 2010 10:36 GMT
#9979
On August 03 2010 19:03 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 17:43 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On August 03 2010 17:23 goldenkrnboi wrote:
goldenkrnboi on US server. i like to switch between cho'gath, ashe, and blitzcrank, in that order. i'm having the most fun with cho'gath.AP tank build cho'gath ftw. :D don't even know if that's an actual build. i just go straight for warmog's armor first than the 3+movement speed boots than pure ap.

i'm more than willing to try new characters though. veigar was pretty fun when i played him. and i don't understand how to play annie. lol. a lot of poeple say she's easy to use, but i just suck balls with her.

As a veteran chogath player, take this advice: ween yourself off of warmog's before you start playing good players.


? elaborate please and what do you suggest instead?


As far as cost-efficiency goes, Warmogs is about as bad as you can get. It gives you 770 health and 30 hp5.. and that's it. Once you've killed 125 additional minions, you now have 1120 health and 92.5 hp5. If you buy Warmog's first, you're gimping yourself for the entire game to reach its full benefit. If you don't.. you're spending money on something worse than stacking Giant's Belts.

The real reason it's bad, though, is that Cho'gath has amazingly high HP because of Feast, so the stats he actually needs to tank-tank are MRes and Armor, neither of which are on Warmog's. Stacking a ton of HP just makes you a really attractive target for Xin or Morde's ults. Get items like GA and FoN/Thornmail for your defensive needs.

In conclusion, Warmog's sucks.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 10:43:21
August 03 2010 10:38 GMT
#9980
On August 03 2010 19:25 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 19:03 goldenkrnboi wrote:
On August 03 2010 17:43 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On August 03 2010 17:23 goldenkrnboi wrote:
goldenkrnboi on US server. i like to switch between cho'gath, ashe, and blitzcrank, in that order. i'm having the most fun with cho'gath.AP tank build cho'gath ftw. :D don't even know if that's an actual build. i just go straight for warmog's armor first than the 3+movement speed boots than pure ap.

i'm more than willing to try new characters though. veigar was pretty fun when i played him. and i don't understand how to play annie. lol. a lot of poeple say she's easy to use, but i just suck balls with her.

As a veteran chogath player, take this advice: ween yourself off of warmog's before you start playing good players.


? elaborate please and what do you suggest instead?

Warmogs is just bad, if you really want HP well you can just go for a RoA =P I think his build is pretty game-dependent so I'm not sure. For AP RoA -> Zhonya is a good start

EDIT: WTF it posted as a new post instead of editing -_


is it bad cause it's health only?

Edit: just ready post above mine. got it. thx would like to know what GA is though

and what do you think of an ap build for cho gath rather than tank, since he gets a lot of health anyways? is that usable? well mean, i've been getting good results so far, but in the higher levels, since i'm considering using cho as a main
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