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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 03 2010 04:56 GMT
#9941
Watching HotShotGG go 16-1 vs team AoN etc really makes me wonder why Southlight and co. think that he's not all that good.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 03 2010 05:06 GMT
#9942
HotShot and the Koreans are the cream of the crop in the NA servers, there's no denying that. What turns people off from HotShot is that he'll have bad games and doesn't take blame for them. His Nidalee is bar none, the best out there. There is a big ass gap between his Nid and whoever you think is second best Nid. In a 5v5 setting, Nid is typically not a ban worthy champion and if you snipe his Nidalee, you're giving grandjudge or Chauster something imba.
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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
August 03 2010 05:08 GMT
#9943
People tell me to play DPS Garen instead of Tank Garen because Tank Garen's damage is absolutely horrible. I feel like the problem there is that I could be playing Xin Zhao instead, who seems like he does everything Garen does in terms of damage but exponentially better.. I just want to play Garen and be effective at something. I'm asking your opinions because I feel like looking at the LoL forums for advice about Garen is like looking at the bnet forums for advice about playing Zerg. I'm too low level to get runes and stuff, but is this a decent list of items for a tank Garen?

Start with regrowth pendant
Boots 1-> Merc treads (rushing a sunfire after boots 1 if you have the gold is also good)
Sunfire Cape
Force of Nature
Guardian Angel
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APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
August 03 2010 05:14 GMT
#9944
Needs more HoGs.

Don't get FoN, it's pretty terrible (at least, if it's not your sixth item) against anything that's not 5 magic damage heroes.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 05:17:07
August 03 2010 05:16 GMT
#9945
The health gen is ridiculous on that item, why would you not get it as a tank? Maybe not first item, but 2nd or 3rd

EDIT: 40 hp regen + .35% of your max HP
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 05:21:52
August 03 2010 05:19 GMT
#9946
On August 03 2010 14:08 H wrote:
People tell me to play DPS Garen instead of Tank Garen because Tank Garen's damage is absolutely horrible. I feel like the problem there is that I could be playing Xin Zhao instead, who seems like he does everything Garen does in terms of damage but exponentially better.. I just want to play Garen and be effective at something. I'm asking your opinions because I feel like looking at the LoL forums for advice about Garen is like looking at the bnet forums for advice about playing Zerg. I'm too low level to get runes and stuff, but is this a decent list of items for a tank Garen?

Start with regrowth pendant
Boots 1-> Merc treads (rushing a sunfire after boots 1 if you have the gold is also good)
Sunfire Cape
Force of Nature
Guardian Angel


I still think stacking Sunfires is the most effective thing on Garen. And yes on FoN if you need MR. The +MS and MR is great but the regen is fucking fantastic since it synergizes with Garen's own passive.

Only real DPS I'd get (especially at high elo) is Brutalizer early on. You get it not so much for the DPS but really for the CDR.

Merc Treads
Sunfire stack
Fon (and GA) if you really need the MR
Youmuu's is ok late game because of the active. You literally turn it on and gun for their DPS carry.

Edit: you asked for an item build, so Boots + 3 hp pots => Giant Belt => Merc Treads => Sunfire. You definitely need more HP early on since you're melee and you draw aggro. So at least one Sunfire is needed. From there, adapt your build according to their line up.
Early game, last hit with Q and harass with E.
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Elite00fm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States548 Posts
August 03 2010 05:23 GMT
#9947
Funny video, I LoL'd cause it's true
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 03 2010 05:31 GMT
#9948
On August 03 2010 14:23 Elite00fm wrote:
Funny video, I LoL'd cause it's true
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-OYKCreNs

Wtf they've recorded me playing
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 03 2010 05:46 GMT
#9949
On August 03 2010 14:06 NeoIllusions wrote:
HotShot and the Koreans are the cream of the crop in the NA servers, there's no denying that. What turns people off from HotShot is that he'll have bad games and doesn't take blame for them. His Nidalee is bar none, the best out there. There is a big ass gap between his Nid and whoever you think is second best Nid. In a 5v5 setting, Nid is typically not a ban worthy champion and if you snipe his Nidalee, you're giving grandjudge or Chauster something imba.
That's what I've been saying. Mid vs HS nidalee (and lilballz udyr) was the worst experience in my LoL career. people don't understand how good it is but i've seen him rape the SHIT out of Maknoon's red-pot pantheon before he randomly switched to corki. i wish we had more bans lol, TF/ezreal/nidalee/udyr/kassadin for jiji/chauster/HS/ballz/judge premade haha.

god i log in to this game and log out 10 seconds later since i just have no motivation to play.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
August 03 2010 05:46 GMT
#9950
Hahaha that video is so good.

I get malady on Xin. Don't ask me why, I just do.
Retvrn to Forvms
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
August 03 2010 05:49 GMT
#9951
On August 03 2010 13:56 Shikyo wrote:
Watching HotShotGG go 16-1 vs team AoN etc really makes me wonder why Southlight and co. think that he's not all that good.


I watched that too, and he got fed a lot. Even he said he didn't even have to work for kills. Also, nobody said he wasn't good, it's just you seem to be the only person in this thread who worships him like a god.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 03 2010 05:50 GMT
#9952
On August 03 2010 14:49 Athos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 13:56 Shikyo wrote:
Watching HotShotGG go 16-1 vs team AoN etc really makes me wonder why Southlight and co. think that he's not all that good.


I watched that too, and he got fed a lot. Even he said he didn't even have to work for kills. Also, nobody said he wasn't good, it's just you seem to be the only person in this thread who worships him like a god.

But I don't, really don't understand where you get that from
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 03 2010 05:54 GMT
#9953
On August 03 2010 14:49 Athos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 13:56 Shikyo wrote:
Watching HotShotGG go 16-1 vs team AoN etc really makes me wonder why Southlight and co. think that he's not all that good.
I watched that too, and he got fed a lot. Even he said he didn't even have to work for kills. Also, nobody said he wasn't good, it's just you seem to be the only person in this thread who worships him like a god.
no there were some discussions earlier in the thread(s) that implied his nidalee was anything short of amazing. honestly HS nidalee is very near the top of the list of scariest characters to face along with the ones i mentioned in my last reply (except maybe grandjudge kass since he's not as specialized as the others). also, LOL @ l0cust in top 5.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 03 2010 06:03 GMT
#9954
Hmm, don't laugh. You and I might not think much of L0cust alone but his 5s team is way solid. It's definitely up there with AoN and CLG.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 03 2010 06:10 GMT
#9955
On August 03 2010 15:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
Hmm, don't laugh. You and I might not think much of L0cust alone but his 5s team is way solid. It's definitely up there with AoN and CLG.
who's in it?
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 03 2010 06:17 GMT
#9956
L0cust, Classick, cFang, Xpecial, TheOddOne
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 03 2010 06:33 GMT
#9957
Xpecial cFang and TheOddOne are all huge ballers, I haven't played with the other two yet.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 03 2010 06:33 GMT
#9958
On August 03 2010 14:14 APurpleCow wrote:
Needs more HoGs.

Don't get FoN, it's pretty terrible (at least, if it's not your sixth item) against anything that's not 5 magic damage heroes.

You are CRAZY.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 06:38:43
August 03 2010 06:37 GMT
#9959
hi cow :3

Also, I just played a game were I was veigar and the opposing team had a veigar too.

Most fights were decided based on which of us could ult the other one first lol, and then abuse nuking the other team to hell. (no real DPS on either team).

Pretty fun.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 03 2010 07:00 GMT
#9960
On August 03 2010 14:50 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 14:49 Athos wrote:
On August 03 2010 13:56 Shikyo wrote:
Watching HotShotGG go 16-1 vs team AoN etc really makes me wonder why Southlight and co. think that he's not all that good.


I watched that too, and he got fed a lot. Even he said he didn't even have to work for kills. Also, nobody said he wasn't good, it's just you seem to be the only person in this thread who worships him like a god.

But I don't, really don't understand where you get that from

I have no idea either....

Seeing you talk about your trinity eve on clgame stream is always fun though, so I still like you :3
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