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Shikyo
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Shikyo
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HeavOnEarth
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r33k
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Southlight
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On August 03 2010 08:32 Southlight wrote: It's only after he's backed once or twice and gotten massive regen that he starts ignoring me, but by that point I just concede mid (if no ganks inc) and go kill other crap. Just in case people are expecting miracles or some shit. I've randomly died to Mord's ult at level 8-9, it's not like it's an easy lane :p | ||
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Chrispy
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Southlight
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On August 03 2010 09:22 Chrispy wrote: If Olaf's ult could just give him a mini ghost he'd be sooo much better. Grab a Zilean on your team -> profit. | ||
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Shikyo
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On August 03 2010 08:47 Southlight wrote: Makes no difference? They're in an off-creep fight from level 1. W let's them get their shield to max at lvl 2, Q makes them... do nothing. Heavonearth: I've suggested that a few times but it's not too possible with the servers and lags On August 03 2010 09:22 Chrispy wrote: If Olaf's ult could just give him a mini ghost he'd be sooo much better. Ghostblade is okay | ||
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Southlight
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oberon
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On August 03 2010 09:44 Shikyo wrote: W let's them get their shield to max at lvl 2, Q makes them... do nothing. Heavonearth: I've suggested that a few times but it's not too possible with the servers and lags Ghostblade is okay Just running ghost is also pretty effective. I always ran ghost/smite on tank olaf. | ||
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myopia
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Shikyo
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On August 03 2010 09:47 Southlight wrote: W, the little swirly shield? If I'm knocking them off creep early it does nothing except give him some MR, which I think is kinda offset by the HP cost of the spell. Really most Mords just bide their time and eventually get to level/itemization that lets them Q E and maintain shield through my Q E, and because of the threat of their AoE burst it's hard for me to work up mana via W, so eventually if we hit high level (and they have something like SV) it becomes impossible for me to "win the lane," but as far as I'm concerned if I can hold and farm for the first 5+ levels I've done my job in terms of slowing him and maintaining tower. If they don't get Q relatively early E doesn't actually stack shield enough to prevent my harass, especially if I simply gun after him and go for an autoattack standing fight. You can't knock him off the creeps, I have no idea what he's doing if you can. He uses W, runs in the middle of your minion wave. Max shield. He E's you if you're in range, hitting the range minions as well if lucky. Max shield. It won't degenerate until like halfway until the next minion wave, at which point he W's again and does the same thing. | ||
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Southlight
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I knock Mords off creep because I time Q to take off chunks of shield while damaging, so it whittles them down and eventually they can't actually charge the shield anymore lest I Q E autoattack, especially once I hit 6. Then I get overconfident and die to R + Ignite and spam "shit" as I slowly degen to death. Edit: Again if they're any smart though (and usually they are) they farm up SV as fast as possible, liberally recall to heal/buy because there's no threat of Kassadin pushing down tower, and then just ignore me because I can't punch through SV, so that's when I concede lane/stall and then start killing other stuff. | ||
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Shikyo
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On August 03 2010 10:13 Southlight wrote: Hmm, I've not actually seen anyone do that. I'd imagine my Q'ing him as it's like halfway charged (thus doing damage to him + wiping out shield) would mess that up, though, and ofc that doesn't stop me from charging mana so I can repeat infinitely and put in E shots, too. I dunno. I knock Mords off creep because I time Q to take off chunks of shield while damaging, so it whittles them down and eventually they can't actually charge the shield anymore lest I Q E autoattack, especially once I hit 6. Then I get overconfident and die to R + Ignite and spam "shit" as I slowly degen to death. Edit: Again if they're any smart though (and usually they are) they farm up SV as fast as possible, liberally recall to heal/buy because there's no threat of Kassadin pushing down tower, and then just ignore me because I can't punch through SV, so that's when I concede lane/stall and then start killing other stuff. Nah it doesn't mess it up, you really would be surprised by how much shield you get with W when in the middle of all the minions. The E that hits every range creep for the triple lasthit and you too if you're in range is going to pop it right back up if you do something. It's weird that you haven't encountered that, but yeah in the normal games where I've played Mord vs Mord I pretty much forced them off the creeps by lvl 4 if they went Q at lvl 2. I think that's the best way to lose the lane. | ||
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Southlight
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Edit: Strego's the one that killed me at like level 7-8 with R, and I had enough time and presence of mind to type "shit" 4 times as I died, prompting Chrispy's "lol" God what an embarrassing death, The sad part was that I started the fight, too. Ooooooverconfident. | ||
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Shikyo
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Chrispy
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 Oh well, Morde's got a nasty surprise waiting for almost any champ at level 6 if he's got ignite. But yeah that Gordinhox guy really saved my team's ass the game before the Master of Lololol fail vlad game. He went mid and both top and bottom were not doing so hot and he managed to get a kill or two mid and farm a lot. He then proceeded to not die the rest of the game and we were able to stretch it out to like 40 minutes and eventually won. I like his build though. Warmogs first item and then farm farm farm, spirit visage, fon, randuins omen, triforce. | ||
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HazMat
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On August 03 2010 10:29 Shikyo wrote: HSGG also gets Q early on so I don't think he's that good with Mordekaiser. The best Mordekaiser I know is Swadow, he's not that popular of a champion. Swadow is only lvl 28 on LoL US but he's 1500 rating from when lvl 20's could play the ladder. I really doubt he's the best mord. I remember facing swadow once and beating him... only reason I remember him is because I talked to him in the clgame stream after that game. You just know him cause he chat's in the clgame stream a lot^_^ I'm really suprised he's 1500 though, didn't know he was that good. | ||
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