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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
August 02 2010 19:59 GMT
#9881
Haha thanks. ^^ I got discouraged when I lost a bunch of games in a row with him at the start of S1 and decided I wouldn't play him til I play with higher level teammates, because his ult is a great support for good players imo.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 02 2010 20:01 GMT
#9882
On August 03 2010 04:59 Chrispy wrote:
Haha thanks. ^^ I got discouraged when I lost a bunch of games in a row with him at the start of S1 and decided I wouldn't play him til I play with higher level teammates, because his ult is a great support for good players imo.

same reason I decided to not play anyone but Kayle and Heimer until I got to a decent elo when I was still stuck in the 1300s :p. playing non-super-carries is just brutal with mediocre teammates hahaha.
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
August 02 2010 20:16 GMT
#9883
really you outdamage with q? i guess ive only played kass vs vlad 2v2 and 2v1.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 20:43:23
August 02 2010 20:41 GMT
#9884
On August 03 2010 04:48 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 04:35 Iplaythings wrote:
On August 03 2010 04:14 Southlight wrote:
I haven't played Ashe in forever, but I'm wondering if you don't simply out dps/range him early on? Especially if you open Fort x5 (or Boot x3) and just gun after him, you can ruin his early game and ride it to a lane advantage :d That'd be how I'd play that, personally.

I outrange him, (with volley) all the time, but it doesnt matter if i burn all my mana on volleys since he will just drain from the creeps otherwise and ignore me then.
Ive no idea how to play fort ashe, and I am waay more confident with catalyst ashe even though fort ashe might be better.


dont play catalyst ashe >.>

srsly, i had a friend do catalyst ashe for months, then when he switched to fort potx5 (or boots x3) -> bfsword -> infinity edge (some ppl do thirster here its preference), then stack thirsters and banshees for the finisher, he started winning a lot more. Ashe doesnt need hp, thats what the beefcakes are supposed to do, stand in front and be a meatshield for ashe as she shoots gobs of health away from the enemies, she is dps, and catalyst honestly isnt good enough for her to delay bfsword items.

edit: also ashe easily has the farm capacity and lanestaying power to do this, so thats not really an issue

Idd, the build is pretty versatile too since the bfsword can be quickly turned into an uber fast cleaver if needed (ie vs vlad). Standard AP-> fast Rylai vlad gets owned easily after that.

Also hopefully the LoL WCG games are going to be televised, thanks to clgaming streams I've only been watching 2 players...
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
August 02 2010 21:01 GMT
#9885
I dunno Chrispy pirate is one of my favorite pub bash heroes. I usually just afk farm a lane for 25-30 and beat on retards for the win. Dorans ring - avarice - ie - ghostblade - double pot --> win =)
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 21:14:05
August 02 2010 21:12 GMT
#9886
On August 03 2010 04:35 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 04:25 Southlight wrote:
On August 03 2010 04:23 Mogwai wrote:
On August 03 2010 04:19 Shikyo wrote:
Kassadin is unbelievably lame to solo against btw. Why the heck does Q have like 54315 range -_-

The biggest pain in the ass with kass is that completely imba fucking passive. 15% less damage from abilities, WTF!?!?!!?


Edit:
Also can you imagine Kassadin counterpicking against mass AP damage and running the defensive mastery + getting that new 10% reduc MR item? lolol invincikass incoming? :p

uhg, it's so gay. I mean, I think the thing that pisses me off the most about it is that it's all ability damage, not just magic damage. it was basically making my old Panth hit like the new Panth whenever I was matched against him. No wonder I found that matchup such a nightmare. God, I still don't think I can think of any REAL Kassadin counters, he just seems so strong across the board .

EDIT: ^ to the above post, you gotta be willing to switch on that =\. I mean, catalyst Ashe just tickles her opponents, you're really not going to be able to win vs. an attrition king like Vlad with that.


Try Teemo, for some weird reason it works. Whenever I lane with Kass, Teemo scares the shit out of me because he can harass me with impunity. He's just faster and can nuke me before I can react with Q. And since Kassadin roams the map alot and usually has no ways to restore HP besides blue pilling, Teemo's shrooms are UNBELIEVABLY annoying. If Teemo is good, you suddenly start to fear all bushes (because a shroom often means a blue pill) and lose a lot of ganking power.

Kat works nice as well, she can slowly chip at my HP while not putting herself to any danger and even if we both get low my riftwalking is easily countered by Shunpo.

Kass can be countered (or at least played on par) in mid by several champs that simply never go mid otherwise. Stuff like Mundo, Xin Zhao or even Tryndamere all works well. Kass is good against long-range squishies that typically take mid, but aside from his Q, he has nothing to put against a strong melee hero that can heal himself. They will just ignore you and farm.

Actually, I often "seem to lose" the harassment war with Kass. But since I swear by teleport usually we're both around 30% hp by the time I hit 6, I run a quick trip home and often get a kill. Imo, teleport is a goddamn musthave on Kass, when the enemies notice your tele, they will still not run away far enough for your R-E to miss them. Turns around lane fights, ganks and other shit. Also very effective in mid, as described above.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
August 02 2010 21:23 GMT
#9887
ye people who have no clueabout cooldowns are funny like when i play blitz you can zone them cause they still think you have you grab up lolol
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 02 2010 21:56 GMT
#9888
I just decided to permamently play Amumu as my main. So good tank, so good ulti and lost only 1 game with him today (played 16, luls) :D I'm nearly lvl30, started buying runes, damn those Quints are fckin expensive :D

I just need to learn jungling Amumu and i'll be super fine :D Shitload of assist, I love it <3

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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 22:19:04
August 02 2010 22:17 GMT
#9889
On August 03 2010 06:23 FlameSworD wrote:
ye people who have no clueabout cooldowns are funny like when i play blitz you can zone them cause they still think you have you grab up lolol

Lol it's hilarious, some people just really don't think too hard


Btw I think Nasus, Chogath, Sion and Mordekaiser are all strong vs Kassadin solo.
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 22:47:08
August 02 2010 22:44 GMT
#9890
A chip of Kassadin wisdom:

Don't run from Karthus when you go low vs him at mid and always carry a health pot. I've seen too many people make that mistake vs him. Either (like most Karthuses) he starts channeling right away and then hilarity ensues when you silence him and run away, or he backs to the protection of his tower and your pot coupled with your 15% damage reduction heals enough for you to survive his ult.

Speaking of Morde, you can't do shit vs him solo. He is immune to your Q and will deny 100% of creeps. He cannot kill you (but you can't kill him even more), but be prepared to only get xp. It's not a hard counter, Morde isn't too scary if he freefarms in the first minutes, and Kass can still do well even with 0 CS, but in a sense, you will be losing the lane phase.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2010 22:47 GMT
#9891
I was 9-0-5 as Veigar in a ranked game, we also had a 10-2-8 Heimerdinger. The whole game they kept whining at their captain for not banning Heimerdinger and no one even noticed me. Guess everyone thinks Veigar is terrible xD
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Danzepol
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 23:26:36
August 02 2010 22:52 GMT
#9892
mresist or mresist/level? for glyphs.

edit:for tanky champions in general.
edit2:kkty
edit3:dang thats a tough call.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 22:58:16
August 02 2010 22:53 GMT
#9893
no idea what champion you're talking about but unless it's specifically to counter katarina or annie mid, mres/lvl =P



RESPONSE EDIT: then mres / lvl especially for junglers
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 02 2010 23:19 GMT
#9894
you should really just do the math yourself to make the /level vs. flat call...

MRes/Level passes flat MRes at level 10, so it's sorta a tossup, but I prefer flats.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 23:31:44
August 02 2010 23:31 GMT
#9895
On August 03 2010 07:44 BluzMan wrote:
A chip of Kassadin wisdom:

Don't run from Karthus when you go low vs him at mid and always carry a health pot. I've seen too many people make that mistake vs him. Either (like most Karthuses) he starts channeling right away and then hilarity ensues when you silence him and run away, or he backs to the protection of his tower and your pot coupled with your 15% damage reduction heals enough for you to survive his ult.

Speaking of Morde, you can't do shit vs him solo. He is immune to your Q and will deny 100% of creeps. He cannot kill you (but you can't kill him even more), but be prepared to only get xp. It's not a hard counter, Morde isn't too scary if he freefarms in the first minutes, and Kass can still do well even with 0 CS, but in a sense, you will be losing the lane phase.


I'm not sure...I just farm with force pulse against morde. It's like, always up because morde spams skills so much.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 02 2010 23:32 GMT
#9896
I beat Mordekaiser with Kassadin 1v1, or at the very worst I stalemate with him. It's only after he's backed once or twice and gotten massive regen that he starts ignoring me, but by that point I just concede mid (if no ganks inc) and go kill other crap.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 23:35:40
August 02 2010 23:35 GMT
#9897
On August 03 2010 08:32 Southlight wrote:
I beat Mordekaiser with Kassadin 1v1, or at the very worst I stalemate with him. It's only after he's backed once or twice and gotten massive regen that he starts ignoring me, but by that point I just concede mid (if no ganks inc) and go kill other crap.

What do you do vs the standard "E your and your creeps' face and start attacking you" - start? You should lose quite a bit of hp, then when he skills W he'll just run up to your creeps, W, and E if you come close.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 02 2010 23:38 GMT
#9898
let him push, last hit shit and let the shield degrade, then throw Qs in his face?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#9899
On August 03 2010 08:38 Mogwai wrote:
let him push, last hit shit and let the shield degrade, then throw Qs in his face?

Let the shield degrade... it'll always stay at at least half if you don't harrass him.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 02 2010 23:40 GMT
#9900
No, I just hit Q at him before he gets any shields going. His skills are kinda short-ranged. You just have to play really aggressive from the start and go for the zone. Plus at early levels his skills don't charge enough shield, so it runs out really fast, for some more fun Q time.

I rarely level up E > Q in a 1v1 lane these days.
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