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He suffered under the burst AoE metagame too, and he suffers under pushing. Really, he's just not that useful of a hero because he basically has no utility :p He'll kick ass in some games if he gets so riced that they HAVE to account for him but if the other team takes initiative and pushes he's like QQ.
Edit: Re, the Annie skin I don't think they're catering to "a particular" community so much as their forum, in which a grown-up Annie skin has been clamoured for for months (like, since beta at least). And really, if there's popular demand, what's to blame Riot for catering, because skins are their primary revenue stream :p
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On July 06 2010 22:01 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2010 21:57 Orpheos wrote: it really bothers me how riot is catering to "that" crowd with teen annie and maid nidalee(in addition to all the other cleavage in the game). i mean its not quite perverted, its just kinda like anime perverted. it wouldnt bother me as much if the game werent kind of catered to a younger audience. idk it just feels out of place. you sir, clearly dont understand what it means to market to a gaming community
i realize they are catering to a gaming community. it just bothers me knowing that there are a bunch of younger people playing the game as well(maybe more).
oh and dont take that stupid tone with me. i was just voicing an opinion/observation. dont be a fucking immature dick about it.
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I don't like being called out on going 1-6 as a tank, especially because I was running around all over the map covering for lanes as a jungler and lost control of my buffs.
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I've been called out playing Soraka/Janna for having bad records :p
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I swear both times, lane dies right when I'm halfway doing either golem and lizard, and it always was the lane OPPOSITE of where I was jungling :<
Dropping buffs to keep towers alive, underlevelled, feed :<
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On July 06 2010 20:15 Juicyfruit wrote: Veigar is dead-last worst-champion in the game, sorry mate. Hey- That's Nunu's turf, mate. No one's as bad as Nunu :p
Yes, I'm assuming SR map.
On July 06 2010 18:14 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Okay, does anyone else think Singed is OP? I rank him in Tier 5, he's one of the worse tanks out there along with Poppy (if she even is a tank) and Malphite, as far as I'm concerned.
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Nunu's a solid laner and a pretty good CC-waster tank.
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Singed isnt really a bad champion but it really depends a lot on the skill of the player and the skill of the other team as how to effective of a tank he is.
A bad singed that flings someone into a teammate that's trying to run is absolutely awful.
A singed that kites the entire team to death in his poison trail is amazing.
An enemy that tries to chase your singed through his poison trail is equally as retarded.
I feel singed is a really niche tank in that hes pretty effective at peeling (with his glue trap and fling) but sometimes his fling is really unreliable.
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poppy is garbage as a tank, much more valuable as a dps with natural tankiness. if you ult some dude who does zero dmg (i.e. a tank) and charge around killing ppl while they cant attack you, you become just a little more usefull in teamfights.
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On July 06 2010 22:08 Orpheos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2010 22:01 barbsq wrote:On July 06 2010 21:57 Orpheos wrote: it really bothers me how riot is catering to "that" crowd with teen annie and maid nidalee(in addition to all the other cleavage in the game). i mean its not quite perverted, its just kinda like anime perverted. it wouldnt bother me as much if the game werent kind of catered to a younger audience. idk it just feels out of place. you sir, clearly dont understand what it means to market to a gaming community i realize they are catering to a gaming community. it just bothers me knowing that there are a bunch of younger people playing the game as well(maybe more). oh and dont take that stupid tone with me. i was just voicing an opinion/observation. dont be a fucking immature dick about it.
wow, i was just trolling around, didnt really intend to get that sort of response. in any case, its rated teen, which means riot has every right to cater to an audience that is 13+ without anyone giving them shit about it. yes, its a free game, so anyone who wants it can get it, but they have every right to cater toward the more adult crowd.
better response for you?
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On July 06 2010 22:35 Southlight wrote: Nunu's a solid laner and a pretty good CC-waster tank. I just don't see what he can do in a team fight. He has zero capacity to force the enemy to attack him or to prevent the enemy from going for his squishies, and all the enemy team needs is one CC on him (yes, even with Banshee's, you just need to pop his spell shield with Starcall / Volley / whatever) to negate most of his damage. If you build him as a tank, his entire contribution will be to snare one enemy, buff one teammate, and force the enemies to keep 1 CC spell reserved for him.
On a semi-related note, it'd be interesting to see Nunu working in coordination with Morgana. Black Shield on him just before he gets hit by enemy CC spells sounds like it could catch an enemy team by surprise.
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Play Nunu as a support, not a tank. He has a good snare but more importantly, he's great at buffing your physical DPS. His ulti isn't too shabby mid/late game. You can definitely snare the entire enemy team with it and at least hit 2-3 champions if you cancel the ulti midway to ensure damage.
He's far from the worst champion in the game. Veigar and Eve are still worse imo.
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Nunu generally rushes Veil and just makes Mejai, it turns him into a trifecta of nuker/supporter/tank, and coupled with his very strong laning presence (he's tough to harass and he can keep spamming nukes at you) makes him a pretty decent hero. As above, far from the worst.
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On July 06 2010 17:34 Khul Sadukar wrote: Ive been trying various Panth builds that ive read. Most of them seem to forego mana regen runes/items/mastery. Just wondering wtf how they get away with this?
I try to play conservatively with my skills and still run low on mana. Anyone else build panth with decent regen and if so how exactly without ruining early game dmg?
PS im almost 20 and wanna get my rune build sorted before i buy T3s. Got about 10k IP saved up. i'm pretty much the best pantheon ever and my most recent shift in pantheon setup is running: 0/18/12 masteries (3 armor, 3 magic resist, 3 strength of spirit, 2 defensive mastery, 3 harden skin, 4 veteran's scars, 3 perserverence, 1 haste, 4 awareness, 3 meditation, 1 utility mastery) Armor Pen on both Marks and Quints, Mp5pL on both Glyphs and Seals
In other words, you don't forego mana regen runes and masteries, because if you do, you get screwed on items because you simply need to get mana regen there to keep up and masteries and runes are much better at replacing the need for a meki pendant than they are at replacing the need for a long sword.
Maknoon runs the same rune setup, but has more in defensive masteries and less in utility than I do, but I'm pretty thoroughly convinced that my setup is optimal for early game.
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strength of spirit actually does something :S?
this might be why I'm kinda failing.
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averaging 250-300 creep kills and 2:1 a game but im .5:1 w/l ratio Everytime I play I get like 2 friend invites, lol.
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On July 06 2010 23:08 Southlight wrote: Nunu generally rushes Veil and just makes Mejai, it turns him into a trifecta of nuker/supporter/tank, and coupled with his very strong laning presence (he's tough to harass and he can keep spamming nukes at you) makes him a pretty decent hero. As above, far from the worst. I disagree with the very strong laning presence statement. He's average at best, as far as I'm concerned; if he has a strong laning partner who can keep the enemy champions far away, then Nunu can make use of his passive and add to the harassment while he keeps himself at high HP- at the cost forcing the lane to advance. If he has a weak laning partner, then Nunu will be pretty useless- he can keep himself healthy with Consume usually, but that'll spend most of his mana regen and he won't be able to harass with Ice Blast to any relevant degree.
He does great with Soraka, but seriously, who doesn't? Maybe an early game support/tank like Alistar, but you really shouldn't be pairing up those two anyway.
As an addendum- even though Nunu is mostly useless in teamfights, if your team manages to win the fight 4v5, then Nunu is a spectacular chaser.
All in all though, I'd much rather have any other champion on my team instead of Nunu- Eve, Trynd, Garen, Malzahar, Akali, Veigar, you name it.
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On July 06 2010 22:42 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2010 22:08 Orpheos wrote:On July 06 2010 22:01 barbsq wrote:On July 06 2010 21:57 Orpheos wrote: it really bothers me how riot is catering to "that" crowd with teen annie and maid nidalee(in addition to all the other cleavage in the game). i mean its not quite perverted, its just kinda like anime perverted. it wouldnt bother me as much if the game werent kind of catered to a younger audience. idk it just feels out of place. you sir, clearly dont understand what it means to market to a gaming community i realize they are catering to a gaming community. it just bothers me knowing that there are a bunch of younger people playing the game as well(maybe more). oh and dont take that stupid tone with me. i was just voicing an opinion/observation. dont be a fucking immature dick about it. wow, i was just trolling around, didnt really intend to get that sort of response. in any case, its rated teen, which means riot has every right to cater to an audience that is 13+ without anyone giving them shit about it. yes, its a free game, so anyone who wants it can get it, but they have every right to cater toward the more adult crowd. better response for you? 
yes that was a better response. thank you. and for the record I think trolling is one of the dumbest things that spawned out of online forums. unless its a really well thought out and actually funny OP(or long post) like the auto-kiting one in sc2(was that the one where the guy actually had 7 replays?)
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On July 06 2010 21:40 Southlight wrote:![[image loading]](http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3223/smashposter.jpg) but I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed the SotO stacks, and also my character autocrits, he's built to fucking kill them, :p.
in related news, I love that you main Kassadin now because Pantheon + Kass in midgame fights are straight up dirty. They really just melt 2-3 man skirmishes. o/
On July 06 2010 23:20 Juicyfruit wrote: strength of spirit actually does something :S?
this might be why I'm kinda failing. hahaha, yea, Utah and I figured out just a couple days ago that that % is applied per second, not per 5, so it turns out it's a pretty helpful mastery early (especially on guys who open sapphire).
NuNu's, IMO, one of the best laners in the game. Self heal that assures minion kills, strong nuke on low CD, and a passive that eases mana issues a lot, what's not to love? The fact that he tapers out a bit later in the game sucks, but I dunno, he can just be such a monster on a strong lane that I think it's really misguided to talk about him at the same level of fail as Veigar or Eve.
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