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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
September 30 2010 08:53 GMT
#21121
Singed is the ultimate troll. Get ganked 1v5? np just run awaaaay
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 30 2010 08:59 GMT
#21122
Whats the best build on Twitch?
Been building him like i do pirate, seems to work..so far
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kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
September 30 2010 09:08 GMT
#21123
On September 30 2010 17:59 arb wrote:
Whats the best build on Twitch?
Been building him like i do pirate, seems to work..so far


Twitch is gamestate dependent, if you can get early kills (>2 before 15 mins) build him late game carry, IE, phantom dancer, bloodthirster, bloodrazor etc. If your not doing good, you need to play with something more defensive, get 2 doran's blades then madreds->bloodrazor, getting red elixers after level 11.
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
September 30 2010 09:11 GMT
#21124
Uhhh no >.>

2x Dorans, Avarice, IE, LW is pretty standard
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 30 2010 09:12 GMT
#21125
Ez isn't bad, he's just not godlike anymore (the important thing) and he's not really a true ranged carry. More like a skillshot nuker. Just make sure you understand that and you'll be fine.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 30 2010 09:13 GMT
#21126
Happy birthday ruru! <3

And the past 5 pages have been pretty awful, haha.
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Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
September 30 2010 09:14 GMT
#21127
On September 30 2010 16:04 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 15:43 Kaneh wrote:
I don't get why AP is so good compared to CDR though. 2250 doesn't get you much more dmg or healing via AP, and most AP leaves her being a little too squishy. The items are relatively cheap for the CDR, or i guess you could just build a glacial and leave it at that while you get some hp.

2250 gold for 430hp, 10% CDR, infinite mana, and some regen to your team doesn't seem like all that bad a deal. it's still a pretty beefy amount of hp

What items do you suggest?


Sorry I forgot to reply to this:

Her skills are terrible on their own (gooooooooooo 150hp heal!) so you need to buff them, low AP ratios be damned. This is urgent because beyond a certain point the only thing she brings to a fight is a dinky heal, a dinky double-nuke, and a CC that lasts like 1 second through Treads. AP also lets her farm faster (provided you can one-shot creep with Q) which is important, and so beyond that she needs to make herself felt in a teamfight.

I'm actually beginning to gravitate towards useful auras (Shroud, Aegis, Frozen, etc.) because her AP ratios are way too bad end-game (hence your skills aren't really doing to do anything) but I'm not sure. I've actually personally gone back to preferring Janna - she just scales better as the game goes on ;/


Something that annoys me about "Terrible AP Ratios" is that hardly anyone correctly compares them. Sonas AP ratios aren´t bad, Q and W hit 2 Targets and her ult is AOE. More importantly she has the luxury of getting the best AP items - Archangels and Soulstealer.
But really, her benefit to the Team is the constant auraspam. It´s subtile but REALLY makes a difference. Her MS boost is the only consistent Team-MS boost. It doesn´t take much CDR and additional Mana for her to provide that, so she is thankfully free to build what is needed instead of relying on a "core item".
AP is good in the situation that the Team doesn´t really need anything else. It´s not capped like CDR or with dimishing returns like mana (500 mana -> 1000? Good. 2000->3000 You never really need that much)
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 30 2010 09:17 GMT
#21128
EU fucked up again...

Oh wait..
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 30 2010 09:19 GMT
#21129
whats best items for kogmaw?
BR banshees mallet mercs atmas LW?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 30 2010 09:21 GMT
#21130
BR, Mallet, Merc, Banshee are core. Other 2 items are game situational.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 30 2010 09:23 GMT
#21131
On September 30 2010 18:19 HeavOnEarth wrote:
whats best items for kogmaw?
BR banshees mallet mercs atmas LW?


Void Staff is actually a solid grab because it keeps the BR/BaB damage very high on tanks with high MR, of course if there's not a lot of MR rolling around LW(or maybe SotD if you just want to obliterate some squishies quick with the active+W combo) is the go to thing.
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Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
September 30 2010 09:26 GMT
#21132
so if Ezreal is a skill shot nuker, wouldn't the best build be double snowball 8)

man that would be so much fun to play in solo.
chooooch
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 30 2010 09:27 GMT
#21133
No one gets snowballs anymore, not even Mejai's. For fun, perhaps.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 30 2010 09:27 GMT
#21134
On September 30 2010 18:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
BR, Mallet, Merc, Banshee are core. Other 2 items are game situational.

i guess my question is, in a game where u want to maximize damage with your last two items,what are the best 2 damage items after the core BR/mallet/merc/banshee
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 30 2010 09:32 GMT
#21135
Maximize damage if your team can babysit you like a pro. Shen + AOE bind/snare (Galio, Amumu, Morg) would be great. You can obviously go pure damage in that situation. On the other hand, if they have a lot of champions that can get up in your face very fast (Xin, Kass, Akali, etc), more survivability will be worthwhile.

Pure damage in pairs, double Bloodthirster. If they're more tanky, get more AS like LW so you can proc BR more.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 30 2010 09:40 GMT
#21136
On September 30 2010 18:11 Yiruru wrote:
Uhhh no >.>

2x Dorans, Avarice, IE, LW is pretty standard

ive been opening dorans shield/ berserk boots 2x avarice IE (games usually over by then)
should i be going 2x blade or what?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 30 2010 09:44 GMT
#21137
It's just personal preference tbh. There's not much difference between Doran's Shield, Avarice x2, IE, LW VS Blade x2, Avarice, IE, LW. The bigger impact is how well you lane and gank in the first 8 levels.
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
September 30 2010 10:30 GMT
#21138
On September 30 2010 18:17 Crucifix wrote:
EU fucked up again...

Oh wait..


I lol'ed when i read their assessment:
+ Show Spoiler +
9:05 AM UK Time: We're aware of the problems players are having logging into PVP.net and forums at the moment. We're investigating the issue now and we'll update again in 15 minutes or as soon as we have more information.

9:20 AM UK Time: We're still looking into the root cause of the problem. We'll update again as soon as possible.

9:35 AM UK Time: We've determined that the problem is a networking issue with our servers. We're still deciding on the course of action that will put the servers in a playable state again as quickly as possible. We'll let you know as soon as we have that information.

10:05 AM UK Time: It's been determined that recent network configuration changes are likely causing problems with our internet service provider. We are going to need to restart the servers to recover. The downtime will be a minimum of 2 hours (potentially longer). We'll update again when we have a better understanding of the time required for the restart. Sorry for the inconvenience guys. We'll have it up and running as soon as we can.

10:45 AM UK Time: We're going to need to revert recent hardware changes in order to successfully restart the system. This will require extra time for the restart. The downtime will last until 5 PM UK Time.



so basically, the maintenance they did makes things worst? awesome tech team they have there yes?
Kexx
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany240 Posts
September 30 2010 10:36 GMT
#21139
they better give everyone 2k free IP now.

guess I will have to smurf on US...
chooooch
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
September 30 2010 11:44 GMT
#21140
On September 30 2010 19:30 Shizuru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2010 18:17 Crucifix wrote:
EU fucked up again...

Oh wait..


I lol'ed when i read their assessment:
+ Show Spoiler +
9:05 AM UK Time: We're aware of the problems players are having logging into PVP.net and forums at the moment. We're investigating the issue now and we'll update again in 15 minutes or as soon as we have more information.

9:20 AM UK Time: We're still looking into the root cause of the problem. We'll update again as soon as possible.

9:35 AM UK Time: We've determined that the problem is a networking issue with our servers. We're still deciding on the course of action that will put the servers in a playable state again as quickly as possible. We'll let you know as soon as we have that information.

10:05 AM UK Time: It's been determined that recent network configuration changes are likely causing problems with our internet service provider. We are going to need to restart the servers to recover. The downtime will be a minimum of 2 hours (potentially longer). We'll update again when we have a better understanding of the time required for the restart. Sorry for the inconvenience guys. We'll have it up and running as soon as we can.

10:45 AM UK Time: We're going to need to revert recent hardware changes in order to successfully restart the system. This will require extra time for the restart. The downtime will last until 5 PM UK Time.



so basically, the maintenance they did makes things worst? awesome tech team they have there yes?


How embarassingly revealing.I am sure they did it to be more open, but lol.
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