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keeblur
United States826 Posts
On September 04 2010 00:19 Zapperkhan wrote: Man glad it's beta UI is slow as shit. Any way to make it full screen? Yes, go into your beta folder, it has a config executable that will open up the config for resolution and stuff. | ||
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fanta[Rn]
Japan2465 Posts
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BladeRunner
United States407 Posts
I have lost faith in SE and concluded they have no ability to make a game for the PC. Their console mindset from all the previous final fantasy games is too engrained and they just dont want to step outside of their safe zone and try things that are proven to work in other games. I think you had a misconception about what they were trying to do. SE doesn't try to cater to the PC market as a huge chunk (and arguably the majority for this game) are console users. The system requirements for FFXIV are insane, many people will be playing it on PS3 over time in my opinion. Especially in Japan (a large target for them) On September 03 2010 22:09 billyX333 wrote: A lot of the people that hate the game, did you enjoy final fantasy XI too? because I think the final fantasy XI community will generally approve of this game (except for the fatigue system, and possibly the new class system) the inherent latency and unreactiveness is kind of something my brain is desensitized to because it was also in FFXI They also added teleportation which I'm loving right now because it basically cuts out the vast majority of walking between quests Ive also fallen in love with the new crafting system, i'll be absolutely shocked if botters find a way to fishbot/mine bot this time its slightly less repetitive and with effort you can increase your gain by using proper technique So far the only starting town I've gone through is gridania, strange story line and town set up but I still kinda like its quirks curious what the other cities look like another thing I think many ffxi fans will disapprove of is the guildleve system it seems to be kind of like a minigame as is very common with square games, but they're necessary to really develop your character and (from what i know) you can only do/hold 8 at a time and then wait for 48 hours for it to reset the class system might also be disliked by ffxi fans I kind of liked the job/subjob system as you could create a more unique class with the subjob abilities but I'll still give it time other notable things missing that I have yet to find -auction house in the starting town (perhaps theres one in a big main city like juno from ffxi?) -absence of your own home/room with your own moogle (no gardening? fuck) I think you have a great point which is that this game is not meant to kill WoW or Aion and the designers have clearly stated they did not use those games as inspirations (sometimes going as far as saying they never even looked at any game but FFXI)... This game is meant to be FFXI-2, any attempt to judge it another way is going to make it look really bad. Also my previous point about the fact that this is a game almost wholly designed for console play. I can echo the comment that playing with a gamepad is 150x better than with a mouse and keyboard. The menus and combat feel very responsive to me with gamepad, just like ffxi did. I want to highlight a few of your open questions though and hopefully address them: the class system might also be disliked by ffxi fans I kind of liked the job/subjob system as you could create a more unique class with the subjob abilities but I'll still give it time While it's true just at a glance a lot of characters will look the same, I actually think FFXIV's method will allow for MORE customization than FFXI because you can carry over abilities and traits from different classes. For example in FFXI I had a hard time playing a "unique" class of Sam/Rng because no matter what, in a party I needed to have Provoke so I was "forced" to use Sam/War. In FFXIV, my hope is, that I will be able to customize more to my preference while still maintaining "necessary" skills. Plus, the sheer number of combinations of ability/trait selection is going to hopefully allow for a ton of customization. other notable things missing that I have yet to find -auction house in the starting town (perhaps theres one in a big main city like juno from ffxi?) -absence of your own home/room with your own moogle (no gardening? fuck) I think they've gone on record stating that there won't be an auction system. However the retainer system is kind of like bazaar on crack, if you haven't checked out the Market District please do. it's like an instanced area where people can set up shops, and I think the plan is to make it searchable such that it would be an improvement to the AH and it's not a crowd of people swarming around a single booth, it should actually look like [albiet instanced] market place with vendors supplied by players. Regarding your own home, they haven't said any details about it that I know of but I have a feeling it's going to be extremely similar to moghouses. If you go to the market district instance area entrance (i think it's called Lotus Garden in Gridania) you will see they describe both the market district and "residential district" very similar. I'm predicting the residential district will be almost identical to mog house area in FFXI, but it seems more likely you can invite someone to your home with this setup. | ||
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nennx
United States310 Posts
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Zapperkhan
United States436 Posts
On September 04 2010 00:21 keeblur wrote: Yes, go into your beta folder, it has a config executable that will open up the config for resolution and stuff. Awesome. Thanks. | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
On September 04 2010 00:50 nennx wrote: beta apps are back up as of about 10-15 minutes ago, be fast! Good show Edit: I have registered my key into the account thing but when I try to log in to the tester site, I log in, it does the log in check then and then comes back with the page before saying I have to log in for the beta thing WHAT IS GOINGGGGGGG ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN | ||
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Aurra
United States469 Posts
On September 04 2010 01:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote: Good show Edit: I have registered my key into the account thing but when I try to log in to the tester site, I log in, it does the log in check then and then comes back with the page before saying I have to log in for the beta thing WHAT IS GOINGGGGGGG ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN The tester website is for testers who were invited to the beta, not people who got a key from open beta/fileplanet etc. | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
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Cirn9
1117 Posts
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Ome
Canada157 Posts
But after being in development for so long now and having controls that are god awful (seriously what is so hard about hardware mouse and fully customizable keyboard??) I'm gonna pass on this until they improve the controls. I was in the Alpha for FFXIV and played all the way up until this beta hoping for controls improvement, but they just haven't done anything, oh well. | ||
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BladeRunner
United States407 Posts
On September 04 2010 02:58 Ome wrote: I've played both WoW and FFXI (currently playing just FFXI) and the game just feels awful, keyboard and mouse controls are terrible. I was able to deal with FFXI for such a long time (6 years) because when it came out it was their first mmo and the mmo landscape was still rather raw. But after being in development for so long now and having controls that are god awful (seriously what is so hard about hardware mouse and fully customizable keyboard??) I'm gonna pass on this until they improve the controls. I was in the Alpha for FFXIV and played all the way up until this beta hoping for controls improvement, but they just haven't done anything, oh well. Seriously, try it with a PS3 controller or a PS2 with adapter (easier to setup). The buttons map perfectly and the interface works amazingly well. Neither this game nor FFXI's UI were designed with PC users in mind that's why you're feeling the strain | ||
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Shaithis
United States383 Posts
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Ome
Canada157 Posts
People have been saying since the Alpha (I myself wrote several lengthy feedbacks) saying how the game was great, minus the controls, and they did almost nothing except a tiny improvement to the mouse, which is still terrible. I had hoped, given that over the years SE did warm up to player feedback in FFXI, that they would do so for FFXIV launch, but it seems not. I want the game to be good, but I won't be forced to use a gamepad on a PC, so I'll wait to see if they ever improve the controls, and then I'll jump in. | ||
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
But keeping expectations low due to the comments in this thread | ||
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Pufftrees
2449 Posts
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Zerum
Sweden348 Posts
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Gatsbi
United States1134 Posts
If you change the screen, please press the NEXT button. " whatever the fuck that engrish shit means.. how do i get the client | ||
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BladeRunner
United States407 Posts
On September 04 2010 04:24 Zerum wrote: how do I get my 360 controller to work with the game?? I been trying to find the control options but all I find is keyboard settings or I'm I just stupid or something?? There's a separate application to configure graphics resolution and gamepad, along with language. Speaking of language, a huge upgrade from FFXI in FFXIV is that people who speak both Japanese and English like me are fully supported - the IME works in both clients and it's very simple to switch the entire client's language (through the configure app). Both of those things were very difficult in FFXI | ||
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Lobotomy
United States300 Posts
http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/12719-open-beta-megauploadutorrent-links-install-instructions/ Torrents and downloads for the patches. | ||
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
On September 04 2010 05:00 Lobotomy wrote: I posted this on page 20, doubt anyone saw it. http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/12719-open-beta-megauploadutorrent-links-install-instructions/ Torrents and downloads for the patches. THANK YOU so much for this i was going nuts when the downloader was sooooooo slow i downloaded the torrents and damn it went hell alot faster and followed the guide worked like a charm thanks onces again! | ||
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