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Doriboi
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States181 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 16:27:32
May 29 2010 16:15 GMT
#21
Rut Roh is Psyonic gonna develop the MMO Bug? I'll sign up for the Beta and check it out. Still hoping for a good SWTOR.
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StewKer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States301 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 16:43:52
May 29 2010 16:43 GMT
#22
On May 29 2010 17:56 SeeDLiNg wrote:
I WILL be playing

reallllly realllyl realllllllllly regret playing WoW and not FFXI

ug...

anyways, for sure contact me


Trust me, no you don't. FFXI was a horrible game compared to WoW. People love to hate on WoW, a lot, but FFXI was a level below that even. The combat, the ui, the environment, the art, general features, etc.

Granted I tried to play FFXI solo or mostly so, (FFXI is notorious for being a horrible mmo to try to play solo) because I had few friends that wanted to try it and the one friend that did play it was already like level 70 or some shit and I was only just starting. So I can understand him not wanting to level me through everything, especially since he had his own grinding to do. Which brings us to the other thing, like most asian mmos, that game was all a bout the grind. Some people put down the quest based leveling system that WoW popularized, but shit at least it keeps things fresh if the writers do an alright job.

Anyways on to the topic of FF14, I'm signed up for beta and will likely at least give it a shot. I'm not that against Final Fantasy games, I actually like them a lot. I liked FF13 for example, which many people did not, I just couldnt stand FFXI though.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
May 29 2010 17:29 GMT
#23
On May 30 2010 01:43 StewKer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:56 SeeDLiNg wrote:
I WILL be playing

reallllly realllyl realllllllllly regret playing WoW and not FFXI

ug...

anyways, for sure contact me


Trust me, no you don't. FFXI was a horrible game compared to WoW. People love to hate on WoW, a lot, but FFXI was a level below that even. The combat, the ui, the environment, the art, general features, etc.

Granted I tried to play FFXI solo or mostly so, (FFXI is notorious for being a horrible mmo to try to play solo) because I had few friends that wanted to try it and the one friend that did play it was already like level 70 or some shit and I was only just starting. So I can understand him not wanting to level me through everything, especially since he had his own grinding to do. Which brings us to the other thing, like most asian mmos, that game was all a bout the grind. Some people put down the quest based leveling system that WoW popularized, but shit at least it keeps things fresh if the writers do an alright job.

Anyways on to the topic of FF14, I'm signed up for beta and will likely at least give it a shot. I'm not that against Final Fantasy games, I actually like them a lot. I liked FF13 for example, which many people did not, I just couldnt stand FFXI though.


Someone I know actually got into the alpha and he said that 14 is just as bad as 11. It's essentially a sequel to 11 rather than a reinnovation, so it has all the same limitations and downsides as 11. The one exception is soloing is more viable in 14, but he wasn't winning me over with his description (note that I never played 11).
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
May 29 2010 17:46 GMT
#24
FUCK I WAS GONNA MAKE A THREAD FOR THIS WITH PICTURES AND EVERYTHING ARRRRRGH

this game is going to be amazing. i imagine it will ruin my life the same way WoW did, except worse and with more fun.
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billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 18:18:47
May 29 2010 17:56 GMT
#25
On May 30 2010 01:43 StewKer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 17:56 SeeDLiNg wrote:
I WILL be playing

reallllly realllyl realllllllllly regret playing WoW and not FFXI

ug...

anyways, for sure contact me


Trust me, no you don't. FFXI was a horrible game compared to WoW. People love to hate on WoW, a lot, but FFXI was a level below that even. The combat, the ui, the environment, the art, general features, etc.

Granted I tried to play FFXI solo or mostly so, (FFXI is notorious for being a horrible mmo to try to play solo) because I had few friends that wanted to try it and the one friend that did play it was already like level 70 or some shit and I was only just starting. So I can understand him not wanting to level me through everything, especially since he had his own grinding to do. Which brings us to the other thing, like most asian mmos, that game was all a bout the grind. Some people put down the quest based leveling system that WoW popularized, but shit at least it keeps things fresh if the writers do an alright job.

Anyways on to the topic of FF14, I'm signed up for beta and will likely at least give it a shot. I'm not that against Final Fantasy games, I actually like them a lot. I liked FF13 for example, which many people did not, I just couldnt stand FFXI though.


Basically all the 'flaws' you listed are the exact reasons why people play FF11 over WoW. The "grind" you refer to essentially makes the game never ending. No body is rushing to level 70 like in WoW where you can get to 70 in less than 2 weeks. While in FFXI, you could play a full year and never reach level 70 (unless you're really focused) because theres so much stuff to explore. Everything is very hard to get in FF11.

And your complaint about it being impossible to solo in is absolutely correct. You only solo from levels 1-10 and this soloing range is the exact part final fantasy players absolutely hate. But at level 10, you can finally move on the party leveling part which is where the fun begins

That being said, I liked both for different reasons.

edit - I didn't realize people complained about the art and the environment. I think its pretty obvious its not a cartoon land like WoW is. Complaining about the art in FFXI is kind of silly IMO, obviously its based on taste. Im sure anybody who enjoyed the final fantasy series on console would be impressed with the art work.



cerebralz
Profile Joined August 2009
United States443 Posts
May 29 2010 18:00 GMT
#26
Beta videos look very slick from what i've seen. That considering they came out saying the current battle system for alpha is just a hold over for the real beta battle system. I played ffxi for 4 years and a bunch of others in between that, but i always end up coming back to square enix products, just like most of us end up coming back to starcraft. It looks like this game is pretty much ffxi-2, hopefully without some of the tedious parts of the previous game right from the start.

Hope to see some of you all in Eorzea!
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
May 29 2010 18:06 GMT
#27
FF11 was originally made for consoles, so the UI was pretty bad and the controls were off; however, it's by far the best MMO I've ever played.

The game was so enjoyable to play. The grind/party system was so much fun. You would find a group and single pull mobs to get exp. It's like every mob you killed was a mini boss. It was so much nicer being able to sit in a spot with a group and kill mobs. Definitely didn't seem like a chore.

The job system and world were beyond amazing as well. I definitely can't wait for FF14.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
May 29 2010 18:11 GMT
#28
DO NOT TURN THIS THREAD INTO FFXI vs WOW

we are here to discuss trailers, gameplay features, beta, etc.

recent screenshots of the cities look amazing.
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BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
May 29 2010 18:21 GMT
#29
I am so gonna buy this.I really hate the fact that i don't have a PS3 to play FFXIII.
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oPPRoBe
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States199 Posts
May 29 2010 18:27 GMT
#30
I got into alpha =D

I'm excited, pumped, etc. I have something to do while SC2 is down.
Time to watch the Altitude Invitational.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
May 29 2010 18:52 GMT
#31
On May 30 2010 03:27 oPPRoBe wrote:
I got into alpha =D

I'm excited, pumped, etc. I have something to do while SC2 is down.
Time to watch the Altitude Invitational.


wait wat?
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SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
May 29 2010 18:56 GMT
#32
my god those screenshots on the website look GOOD, i'm pretty impressed i loved ff11 (hated wow ironically) so I'll likely end up trying this. I just hope they aren't prerendered screenshots.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
May 29 2010 19:04 GMT
#33
On May 30 2010 03:11 mOnion wrote:
DO NOT TURN THIS THREAD INTO FFXI vs WOW

we are here to discuss trailers, gameplay features, beta, etc.

recent screenshots of the cities look amazing.


Can I talk about FF14 vs Hello Kitty Online? Because I'm pretty sure every single MMO that comes out will be smashed into the ground by HKO
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 19:09:48
May 29 2010 19:06 GMT
#34
On May 30 2010 04:04 Purind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 03:11 mOnion wrote:
DO NOT TURN THIS THREAD INTO FFXI vs WOW

we are here to discuss trailers, gameplay features, beta, etc.

recent screenshots of the cities look amazing.


Can I talk about FF14 vs Hello Kitty Online? Because I'm pretty sure every single MMO that comes out will be smashed into the ground by HKO


well yeh of course, THAT's at least a reasonable comparison.

On May 30 2010 03:56 SpiritAshura wrote:
my god those screenshots on the website look GOOD, i'm pretty impressed i loved ff11 (hated wow ironically) so I'll likely end up trying this. I just hope they aren't prerendered screenshots.


i dont know which ones you saw, but a majority of the ones released on major sites like joystiq and kotaku were in game FP shots
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LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
May 29 2010 19:07 GMT
#35
I twas announced a while back. I'll be looking forward to playing this when it comes out. I was a big fan of 11, but it will certainly be nice to have a slightly more forgiving version of the game in terms of ability to solo play when you aren't in a group.
iD.NicKy
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
France767 Posts
May 29 2010 19:44 GMT
#36
When is supposed to start the beta (approximatively) ?
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
May 29 2010 19:46 GMT
#37
On May 30 2010 04:44 iD.NicKy wrote:
When is supposed to start the beta (approximatively) ?


SQUE and Blizzard are the same in the "when its ready" category.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
May 29 2010 19:48 GMT
#38
On May 30 2010 03:11 mOnion wrote:
DO NOT TURN THIS THREAD INTO FFXI vs WOW

we are here to discuss trailers, gameplay features, beta, etc.

recent screenshots of the cities look amazing.


Post them!
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 20:32:48
May 29 2010 19:59 GMT
#39
On May 30 2010 04:48 IntoTheWow wrote:
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recent screenshots of the cities look amazing.


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Profile Blog Joined May 2004
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May 30 2010 09:21 GMT
#40
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