Yeah I saw what the U2 did mentally to Flash, and I have to say top-end players showing why that ULT is good, I completly revoke my statement on calling it a mistake to pick BBT earlier in the thread, Mr.Wong shoved those words down my throat.
The best thing about inthul is that now I'll have to grind my way through scrub fei's online for the next month until EVO. UGH I hate fighting Fei's theyre so annoying, at least people will try and use U2 now which the whole time he had it only hit during crossup attempts and I doubt any scrubs will use it properly.
He's hyped because he's Pad Long, which to me seems like a bad kind of hype, since admittedly the game is easier to play on a stick the pad itself (at least the PS3 one) isn't THAT BAD. Now while I was(key word was) amazed at Wolfkrone and his Pad Viper, this is Fei Long, and I'll be brutally honest in MY opinion he didn't do anything amazing on the pad. How he played to me was he was reading and adapting to his opponents quickly and correctly. If anything I'd have to say the only reason he didn't get to 2nd, and win the whole thing is he doesn't have the experience the other players do.
So yeah, when justin or any other big name showed a character could dominate it was always with the stick. Him using the pad brought it down to the level of OTHER "casuals"(not to insul t pad users as being strictly casual but most of the time that is the case) basically telling showing everyone else who spent $100+ on their stick, "You just wasted your time and money in learning/buying that thing" Of course I feel that while it is easier to use the stick, if you're better/more comfortable given your playstyle using one or the other not to mention Super isn't out in arcades yet(not until July/August in Japan after their patches, one of which is coming out in June and I hope more follow) then pad itself is compeltly viable until then.
Of course when it comes out in arcade, I don't know if they have a 'pad adapter' or something but in Japan I know that arcades dominate the scene and that is why pad's usually are frowned on because of that.
I always advocate stick over pad. But god in my country you only find pad warriors. Ask PR rog, he came to play here few months ago, I thought he would dominate every one 100% but a few of the top players here gave him a run for his money, and there was one he couldn't beat consistenly, which is no.1 here.
On May 24 2010 00:20 Trumpet wrote: for divekick / throw mixups with rufus, it's a ton easier if you just tick into them with a st.lk before throw. Basically, once you divekick you can do a combo / blockstring like lk, hp xx hp tornado, or cr.lk xx lp tornado; you can tick by doing any combination of lk, cr.lk, cr.lp etc and just walk up throw; and you can just rejump and do an immediate followup divekick to beat someone who's trying to tech a throw.
To make it even more successful, do your lk or whatever on block after a divekick and walk like you would for a tick throw, but instead of throw do ex messiah.
Really, it's something you need to freestyle and adapt to each opponent. Getting used to your tools and seeing when to switch them up will really destroy some people. Try to make mental notes of what's working and what's not as you're doing it as well; some players will just never get tick thrown until you ex messiah them for always teching, some will never get thrown off by cr.lk ticks but cr.jabs will make them free, and some people get so frustrated if you redive on them a couple times that anything you do after the 3rd divekick will work lol.
Any tips for lk, hp link? I tried p linking, cant get it down
aha the pad thing is sad but yeah in some cases its true in the sense that "you dont need a stick" but I bought the stick just for the reason that in cases where u go to arcade or a meet up with other street fighter players youll more likely encounter sticks and you should get used to it =D!
ya im pretty sure theres nothing with the stick that you can't do with a pad.. i think it's just a matter of preference. and IMO stick is way more fun (i used pad for a looong time)
On May 24 2010 15:36 zizou21 wrote: ya im pretty sure theres nothing with the stick that you can't do with a pad.. i think it's just a matter of preference. and IMO stick is way more fun (i used pad for a looong time)
Actually I'd have to say that the while its true theres NOTHING, over time execution because a lot 'easier' on the stick overtime. That is to say, game aside, the learning curve is not a steep, and pulling off difficult moves/comboes is now easy. Since the game originated from the stick, you're playing the game how it was ment to be played even with the console port the original intention was for an arcade enviroment. So that being said, I agree that sure there's nothing you can't do on both but playing with a stick allows you to do it better? I can't think of a good way to describe the differnece because things like execution differ per person on stick/pad and bother can be trained. I guess I'll just go back to my original statement 'The game was made/based around the stick so thats the way it was ment to be played', yes the pad works but the stick just overall works average.
it was more hype that he was using fei long and beat sky (rly underrated honda player mainly only EC people know about) art and sanford (double perfecting him even)
I don't really see the bias against pad players. I think SF2 blew up even more when it was on the SNES and Sega Genesis, all those players used pad.
I prefer stick because I feel really uncomfortable using shoulder buttons and just using my thumb to control all four-six main buttons. The worst is when you have to do a complete diagonal movement, such as C. Viper's super jump or Fei Long's chicken wing. It's almost less than 50% when I use a pad.
You guys should follow FrameAdvantageDotCom on Youtube if you haven't already. It's really the best channel for U.S players. Here's Inthul's best match that has been released.
No I'm pretty sure the reason for the hype is because Justin using Fei Long wasn't that surprising given it's Justin Wong and that was just a local. This was an east coast major with a relatively unknown player taking third using Fei Long.
GGs yesterday FakeSteve, I should really play more. :x
I have to say that I love watching high level SF play, but I cannot stand the people commentating the games in this genre. Between the constant swearing and the "OOOOOOHHHH!!!" every 2 seconds whenever someone gets hit, it makes me feel like I'm listening to a bunch of middle school children hovered around an arcade machine rather than someone commentating a major event...
ahh i have the same gripe as the above poster. i would watch my sf4 if the commentating was a little more professional. havent checked any tekken 6 for mlg but definately will when i have sometime.
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