God of War III [PS3] - Page 4

On March 22 2010 09:33 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
I just finished playing the downloadable demo and my question is: If I didn't particularly enjoy the demo, is there any reason for me to buy the game? I've never played any game like this, but I think the hack & slash genre just may not be for me...

I suppose I didn't enjoy it because it didn't have enough freedom/exploration opportunities. Does this change at any point during the game?

For reference, some of the other console games I've enjoyed immensely are Super Mario World Galaxy, Uncharted 2, Zelda: Twilight Princess, and especially Assassin's Creed 2.

On March 22 2010 09:33 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
I just finished playing the downloadable demo and my question is: If I didn't particularly enjoy the demo, is there any reason for me to buy the game? I've never played any game like this, but I think the hack & slash genre just may not be for me...

I suppose I didn't enjoy it because it didn't have enough freedom/exploration opportunities. Does this change at any point during the game?

For reference, some of the other console games I've enjoyed immensely are Super Mario World Galaxy, Uncharted 2, Zelda: Twilight Princess, and especially Assassin's Creed 2.

On April 01 2010 10:13 x2fst wrote:
never thought i'd be asking for sex advice on the internet but wtf is that jiggly thing you do when banging aphrodite, i have tried it like 20 times and i always fuck it up on that one moment

On April 01 2010 10:39 nicoaldo wrote:
is funny that they added sex to this part, im sure a lot of people will pay attention to the game just for that.

On April 01 2010 10:34 Chuiu wrote:

Not sure what you're talking about but I assume its the one where you shake the left joystick in the direction indicated by the animation.

On April 01 2010 11:31 x2fst wrote:
yeah its the one after the rotating motion, pretty sure there's something wrong with my controller

On April 01 2010 12:07 Koltz wrote:
In my opinion GoW III is inferior to ninja gaiden in every single way.

First off, GoW is WAY too easy, even on the hardest difficulty. There is so little emphasis on dodging and getting hit, and the emphasis is on attack, attack, button mash, grab.

Ninja Gaiden is much different. Its about not getting hit, and countering. If an enemy ninja on 'master ninja' difficulty grabs you, it will take out 90% of your health (near the start of the game). To put it plainly, you get hit and youre probably dead. And when you run around enough and manage to get a counterattack in, your next move better be an izuna drop or a suitable combo. Button mashing will inevitably end up in you being slashed around like a ragdoll.

And its not infuriating that the enemies possess one-hit ko moves, because Ryu is a fucking ninja. he's so agile and quick that when and if you do get hit, its 100% your fault. He can jump and wallrun, and reverse wind, and bounce off enemies heads. He recovers extremely quick from finishing attack patterns, and is definitely very fragile when hit. Just like a ninja is supposed to be.

I agree the ultimate techniques are a bit cheap sometimes, and they too make the game much easier, but ninja gaiden is probably one of the hardest modern era games out. And its sad because so few games are inclined to explore the difficulty this game has to offer.

God of War is quite disappointing, theres way too much hype. Maybe people like it because you literally are unstoppable, and your moves are incredibly overpowered. You basically look at stuff and it dies. The story, is WAYYYY better than that of ninja gaiden but a game isnt good because of its story. Maybe if we were playing an RPG. Sure it makes a good game great, but games should be about gamePLAY, not gamePLOT.

I dont find playing a game where you are extremely overpowered and boss fights are governed by if you can match up buttons with pictures fun.

On April 01 2010 12:11 Chuiu wrote:
Firstly, you're comparing apples to oranges. Secondly I can tell you never played any God of War on the hardest difficulty because you would realize it IS about dodging, positioning, and making use of countering, even more so in gow3.

Ninja Gaiden is a hard as hell game, you're right. But who the fuck gives a crap if God of War isn't the same?

god of war is a much more complete game though. Ninja Gaiden has a better combat system for sure, but it's got completely garbage level design, narrative, and pacing. Not to mention the repeated boss battles -_-

On April 01 2010 14:00 Koltz wrote:


Its definitely not about dodging countering and positioning because its not NECESSARY to do to kill everything. Of course right joystick allows you to roll, and (depending on ur controls) l1 is block, but any enemy that can be grabbed or knocked back is dead. And enemies that can't be disposed as easily, have an attack pattern that they follow for 5 minutes while u tap the joystick and move out of the way.

Mutliple enemies isnt even a problem since you have "special" attacks that crowd control FOR you. The story is solid. The graphics likewise. The polish they give it is almost perfect. It shines and glitters, but it lacks in GAMEPLAY.

Im not knocking on GoW because its not the same as ninja gaiden, im knocking on it because the gameplay is a JOKE. Game review sites and shows attribute the combat with "gorey and pretty, and when you kill someone you see their head ripped off and tail chopped off, and blood ooze." Yet they say little about how/why the actual combat system is, in their opinion, good.

Its their shroud of graphics, they are hiding the fact that their gameplay is horrid by covering it in blood, so that when you kill something you feel satisfied with HOW they die, not the process in which it takes to kill them. The public is a zombie-consumer base that buy stuff that looks pretty and gives a story which is good by video-game means (spoilers: good stories lie in books, not video games). Although im not saying theres anything wrong with a good story in a video game, but that its a minor aspect of them.

While thats fine and dandy for RPGS (since almost by definition, RPGs are about a character(s) and his life) an action game should be about the ACTION. Storytelling and narration shouldnt dictate its enjoyability, just influence it. Sadly GOW is dictated solely by its polish, so much in fact, that the people playing the game are unable to realize its terrible mechanics.



In many ways you are correct. God of War is more of a complete game. Ninja gaiden does have MUCH better combat. The rest can be argued except for the narration, in which i agree, the story and narration is complete garbage. The pacing is exquisite though, the difficulty increases steadily with no real spikes, you are given ample time to experiment with each weapon and ninpo as you get them, before you recieve a new one, and the boss battles are HARD, not really repetitive. Except for maybe the werewolf, which is probably the easiest boss of the entire game (but thats if you abuse his weakness). And if you think that damaging a boss until it can be grabbed, in which case you follow a button sequence thats laughably easy not repetitive and more "solid" then you really are bedazzled by blood and gore, and not by gameplay.

Anyways lets break my argument down:

Premise: If a game's rating can indeed be quantified by a number, then it should be the weighted average of the ratings of a few key components of the game.

That means a weighted average of how well the graphics, plot, polish, gameplay etc. are rated should determine a games overall rating.

Now here's where I differ from most people; in an action game, gameplay is definitely the most IMPORTANT factor, and if we assign an arbitrary weight of 'x' to the gameplay component, then the graphics and plot and polish should be only a fraction of the value of x.

Thus an action game is bad if and only if it has bad gameplay. The converse and contrapositive are true.