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Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
February 01 2013 00:19 GMT
#1661
Is there a particular win condition that's a good place to start learning? I've yet to win a game of Civ and am pretty terrible at it so if there's a good starting point in terms of win cons that might help me win a game.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 00:22:52
February 01 2013 00:22 GMT
#1662
On February 01 2013 09:19 Xinder wrote:
Is there a particular win condition that's a good place to start learning? I've yet to win a game of Civ and am pretty terrible at it so if there's a good starting point in terms of win cons that might help me win a game.


Science victory is by far the easiest to win with. Culture is probably the hardest.

What kind of difficulty are you playing at?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
February 01 2013 00:59 GMT
#1663
On February 01 2013 09:22 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:19 Xinder wrote:
Is there a particular win condition that's a good place to start learning? I've yet to win a game of Civ and am pretty terrible at it so if there's a good starting point in terms of win cons that might help me win a game.


Science victory is by far the easiest to win with. Culture is probably the hardest.

What kind of difficulty are you playing at?


Haven't played in a while but I was playing on Normal, or w/e the equivalent is for normal in the Civ world. I can't think of it off the top of my head.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
February 01 2013 02:10 GMT
#1664
On February 01 2013 09:14 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 07:59 Charger wrote:
On February 01 2013 07:48 Sufficiency wrote:
For steam games I am pretty sure you can just move the folder to anywhere and it will be OK.

But I am worried that steam might require you to verify online at least once on a new computer before you can play.


Yeah that's sort of the worry in the back of my mind as well. I went ahead and ran the game once from my work computer to (maybe) verify it or whatever. I'll be heading home in a few so we'll see what happens!

Edit - Well it's not looking good. I get an error when steam tries to launch. It says no network connection - troubleshoot or go offline. I go offline and it says could not connect to steam network.


Time to pirate I guess.


Haha nah I can go without if that's the way it has to be. Maybe my laptop can run it and I can 'activate' it at work. We'll see
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 01 2013 05:15 GMT
#1665
On February 01 2013 09:59 Xinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 09:22 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 01 2013 09:19 Xinder wrote:
Is there a particular win condition that's a good place to start learning? I've yet to win a game of Civ and am pretty terrible at it so if there's a good starting point in terms of win cons that might help me win a game.


Science victory is by far the easiest to win with. Culture is probably the hardest.

What kind of difficulty are you playing at?


Haven't played in a while but I was playing on Normal, or w/e the equivalent is for normal in the Civ world. I can't think of it off the top of my head.


On normal (i.e. prince), science victory should be very easy on pangaea and domination should be very easy on water maps.

Domination might be easier than I give credits for. I am biased against it because I can never do it myself properly.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 01 2013 05:17 GMT
#1666
I think playing on immortal made me a much better player. I can now win much quicker than I used to be able to. I still can't win via science in sub-300 turns though.... hmm...

Also I am curious of how tall I can build a city to. I have never been able to reach more than 35 pop...... time to pull out Aztec/India.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
February 01 2013 05:25 GMT
#1667
imo dom is easiest and diplo is hardest
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 05:44:46
February 01 2013 05:33 GMT
#1668
On February 01 2013 14:25 TheFish7 wrote:
imo dom is easiest and diplo is hardest


I think diplo on immortal, at least, is pretty easy. Early faith civ -> tithe -> build tall and turtle like hell.

Culture is hard because while you can kind of do the same thing (early faith civ -> CB/World Church -> build tall), it takes a LOT longer to achieve and doesn't snowball like the path to diplomatic victory. Gold is also a lot more versatile.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
February 01 2013 06:03 GMT
#1669
OMFG dat feel when you're one turn from Utopia then your game crashes.

FCK FCK FCK SHIT FCK FCK FCK.

YOU U NO AUTOSAVE CIV 5?!!!
Skol
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
February 01 2013 06:11 GMT
#1670
On February 01 2013 15:03 Emnjay808 wrote:
OMFG dat feel when you're one turn from Utopia then your game crashes.

FCK FCK FCK SHIT FCK FCK FCK.

YOU U NO AUTOSAVE CIV 5?!!!


There is an autosave... I set mine to 1 turn for last 100 turns.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
February 01 2013 06:14 GMT
#1671
On February 01 2013 15:11 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 15:03 Emnjay808 wrote:
OMFG dat feel when you're one turn from Utopia then your game crashes.

FCK FCK FCK SHIT FCK FCK FCK.

YOU U NO AUTOSAVE CIV 5?!!!


There is an autosave... I set mine to 1 turn for last 100 turns.


I didnt set mines then. Fault on me I guess. Why wouldnt they just set it to default. Im so new to this game T_T
Skol
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
February 01 2013 06:22 GMT
#1672
Because turn time is long enough even without auto saves. I welcome them not being default, they're often more of a nuisance I find
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 01 2013 06:26 GMT
#1673
On February 01 2013 15:14 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 15:11 Pseudoku wrote:
On February 01 2013 15:03 Emnjay808 wrote:
OMFG dat feel when you're one turn from Utopia then your game crashes.

FCK FCK FCK SHIT FCK FCK FCK.

YOU U NO AUTOSAVE CIV 5?!!!


There is an autosave... I set mine to 1 turn for last 100 turns.


I didnt set mines then. Fault on me I guess. Why wouldnt they just set it to default. Im so new to this game T_T


[image loading]

You are welcome
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
February 01 2013 06:30 GMT
#1674
On February 01 2013 15:26 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 15:14 Emnjay808 wrote:
On February 01 2013 15:11 Pseudoku wrote:
On February 01 2013 15:03 Emnjay808 wrote:
OMFG dat feel when you're one turn from Utopia then your game crashes.

FCK FCK FCK SHIT FCK FCK FCK.

YOU U NO AUTOSAVE CIV 5?!!!


There is an autosave... I set mine to 1 turn for last 100 turns.


I didnt set mines then. Fault on me I guess. Why wouldnt they just set it to default. Im so new to this game T_T


[image loading]

You are welcome


Ya I found it just now, lol. Im so stupid.
Skol
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
February 01 2013 06:53 GMT
#1675
On February 01 2013 15:30 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 15:26 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 01 2013 15:14 Emnjay808 wrote:
On February 01 2013 15:11 Pseudoku wrote:
On February 01 2013 15:03 Emnjay808 wrote:
OMFG dat feel when you're one turn from Utopia then your game crashes.

FCK FCK FCK SHIT FCK FCK FCK.

YOU U NO AUTOSAVE CIV 5?!!!


There is an autosave... I set mine to 1 turn for last 100 turns.


I didnt set mines then. Fault on me I guess. Why wouldnt they just set it to default. Im so new to this game T_T


[image loading]

You are welcome


Ya I found it just now, lol. Im so stupid.

I feel your almost pain. It would be terrible to lose an amazing civ save due to a computer crash :p luckily civs thought ahead.
Arunu
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands111 Posts
February 01 2013 08:33 GMT
#1676
I've been putting way too many hours in this game lately....

Bought it during the winter sales including G + K and ofcourse had too buy the korea DLC aswell.
Gradually making my way up the difficulty scale.
Was really lost even on prince when i first started, i made a mess out of build orders, research orders and well.... everything.

Once you get the hang of a good opener this game really is good fun, just started emperor level, i'll see how i do there.
I'm currently usually going for a science or diplo victory,i'm still not very good at domination.
I always wait too long to start ransacking my neighbours, except when my neighbours are either Alexander or Bismarck..... Then it's game on from the get go, have developed a healthy dislike for both of them.
Backstabbing me on every opportunity, denouncing when i'm friendly, settling stupid cities with maybe 1 usefull desert tile in between my cities etc etc.

many more hours to go on this game !
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 01 2013 09:58 GMT
#1677
God damn it. Playing as Theodora feels like cutting myself.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 10:29:46
February 01 2013 10:28 GMT
#1678
Somehow i always get a start that is Hollands wet dream (marshes, hills, lots of luxury and flood plains) when playing some other civs (America this time). And when i am playing Holland closest marsh/flood plain is like 20-25 tiles away....
Does computer discriminate against You in higher difficulty levels with starting positions? I am not talking about luxury/strategic resurces but simple type of terrain.

Also i would like to reitarate my position on building wonders.
Emperor-there is no reason to not build 90% of wonders in game.
Immortal-last 9 of 10 games i was able to build 2+ ancient wonders, and then increasing amount of wonders, from industrial upwards its almost 100% (sometimes comp manges to bild staute of liberty). Stonehenge imba it pretty much guarntees You early religion (First or second to found). Now i am building it every game.

Also i once started with Theodora but got bored before i was able to check, does bonus belief comes from pool available to other civs or is this some new Byzantine only pool?
Pathetic Greta hater.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 13:54:15
February 01 2013 10:58 GMT
#1679
On February 01 2013 19:28 Silvanel wrote:
Somehow i always get a start that is Hollands wet dream (marshes, hills, lots of luxury and flood plains) when playing some other civs (America this time). And when i am playing Holland closest marsh/flood plain is like 20-25 tiles away....
Does computer discriminate against You in higher difficulty levels with starting positions? I am not talking about luxury/strategic resurces but simple type of terrain.

Also i would like to reitarate my position on building wonders.
Emperor-there is no reason to not build 90% of wonders in game.
Immortal-last 9 of 10 games i was able to build 2+ ancient wonders, and then increasing amount of wonders, from industrial upwards its almost 100% (sometimes comp manges to bild staute of liberty). Stonehenge imba it pretty much guarntees You early religion (First or second to found). Now i am building it every game.

Also i once started with Theodora but got bored before i was able to check, does bonus belief comes from pool available to other civs or is this some new Byzantine only pool?


Byzantine bonus belief can be anything - but as far as I know, can't be something that is already taken. Byzantium does not have a civ-unique pool. However, I don't really see any reason to NOT choose a second founder bonus. Ideally, running two of Tithe, Church Property, and Initiation Rites is pretty broken.

One alternative which might be OK is to get Itinerant Preachers (pressure radius is 30% bigger) or Religious Text (33% faster spread). You can get these without enhancing your belief - and by the time you enhance it, you can get the other one - which means your religion will spread like the flu. However even with this I find it too hard to pull off on Immortal. It's probably barely doable on Emperor.

EDIT: I just had this most terrible game ever on Pangaea with Theodora.

1. Mongols <10 tiles away from my capital? Check.
2. No desert/tundra/wine/incense/gold/silver/stone/marble? Check.
3. No religious CS in sight? Check.
4. No horses in sight? Check.
5. No faith natural wonders in sight? Check.

WHY IS THIS GAME SO HARD

EDIT2: Rerolled the map and civ, got Spain, found a natural wonder by turn 3 (+4 food, +12 faith per turn, lol). WHY IS THIS GAME SO EASY
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Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
February 01 2013 17:25 GMT
#1680
Preaching Text strategy is hella fun but kinda useless. It's essentially religion for the sake of religion and there is no religion vic condition. Founder bonus far outweighs the spread bonuses I think!

Byzantines are one of these civs that lose their potential the higher the difficulty is as their UA is exclusively based on you being able to get a religion in the first place which is by no means a guarantee.

Catas are pretty fun though heh
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