Civilization V + DLC's, G&K, BNW - Page 40

On March 12 2012 15:49 chroniX wrote:
How is multiplayer nowadays? Like if i want to team up with a friend? Is it fun?

I know right after release everyone was bitching about MP and how bad it was...

On March 12 2012 15:49 chroniX wrote:
How is multiplayer nowadays? Like if i want to team up with a friend? Is it fun?

I know right after release everyone was bitching about MP and how bad it was...

On March 15 2012 13:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
German TL'ers needed:

http://www.gamersglobal.de/interview/mehr-tiefgang-durch-religionen

Together with designer Ed Beach Producer Dennis Shirk took us to the addon Civilization 5: Gods and Kings before. We then dragged Dennis Shirk for an exclusive interview from our microphone to talk about the many changes that will have the extension.
Jonas Schramm 13th March 2012 - 23:45 - Updated 20 hours ago

Among the many innovations that Civilization 5: Gods and Kings brings with it, you could have you in our In-Test Product convincing. After we presented the extension recently in San Francisco for half an hour, we have Dennis Shirk , Associate Producer at Firaxis development studio caught and questioned, among other new religions and the revised spies. In case you're wondering about the lack of questions about AI: We believe with all my faith in the competence of Firaxis, Civilization 5 with only what we can experience and see for yourself, and no designer promise.

GamersGlobal: There is a saying: never talk about taxes and religion - with the new extension of Gods and Kings Were you doing just that but it internally heated discussions about it?

Dennis Shirk: Actually no, that was pretty painless. We would certainly have discussed it more if it had been the goal to map the existing world religions in the game. Then it would have to be some situations in the game that no one would want to look at Firaxis on YouTube ...

GamersGlobal: ... or on the right-wing news channel Fox News.

Who sat on standard strategies can forget the addon.


Dennis Shirk: Exactly, it would mean we indoctrinate the youth with this or that religion. So instead, we give you complete freedom: you can call your religion as you want, and you can put it in the five to six "content slot" any combination of beliefs. This really is a lot more depth to the game: If you previously relied on standard strategies can forget the addon. For now, you have twelve civilizations, religions, with six per game. On small cards that are then still four civilizations, two religions. And this also has an impact on the surrounding civilizations. Take the faith "Just War". If the spread to one of your neighbors, your fighting units 30 percent more effective if they are located near the cities of the neighbors.

GamersGlobal: : In Civilization 5 and also in Gods and Kings, we repeatedly encounter the other leaders. Can we meet in Gods & Kings and our God, who perhaps speaks of a natural phenomenon to us and praised and rewarded, because the rest of us have about him?

Dennis Shirk: No, it is not omnipotent. Great prophet are with us the greatest feeling. Maybe because we the religious system in the beginning and then have the most balanced middle of a game. During the Renaissance, the influence of religion begins to wane, however, almost as in the real world. Also, the things that you can buy with points of faith, more and more expensive - up until you yourselves in the industrial age can hardly afford. This then begins to unfold the system of espionage.

During the Renaissance, the influence of religion begins to wane


GamersGlobal: : The changes to the city-state sound promising. Can you tell us more about their quests?

Dennis Shirk : In addition to the aforementioned types, such as "kill x Barbare
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n "or global quests like" Build the most world wonders in Y trains "there is in the addon a quest-type, where you'll have to recover a tribute to another city-state. Indents her with an army that is strong enough, the work and you get the gold, and maybe even a few workers. But behind your back can the city-state which have intimidated her, complaining about it at another player and ask him for help against you.

GamersGlobal: : Keyword Espionage: Do we not now almost too much information from our spies, without that we would have to do something?

Dennis Shirk: The We limit the number of spies. You get one in the Renaissance, one in the industrial age and into the present. Nations with a miracle, the National Intelligence Agency, you can still get a fourth. But it can happen that you send your spies technological achievements that are old hat to you for a long time, because your own research as these have long been surpassed.

We have loopholes such as the research agreement stuffed
Your opponent or ally can reveal your spies and then come to you and complain about it - or they simply bring him around the corner. And then you this spy is missing for some time. Or someone uses the miracle Great Firewall, all the technology for a few laps in derogation of theft. We want it all but not artificially complicated, because it distracts from the actual game. We have packed the same number of loopholes such as the research agreement, which allowed the players trickery. You must now be good friends with civilization, with which you want to do research together. Thus, these research agreements back into something special, something of value - and to a found food for the spy a third party.

GamersGlobal: If Vikings or pirates stormed ashore to plunder a city that appears authentic. But a war ship from World War II? The sailors have a city of its time but rushed for entirely different reasons ...

Dennis Shirk: To some degree you have to let the reality of something out of it. (Smiles) In this case, wins the game through this new mechanism. Imagine a continent before, which is surrounded by water and protect its citizens against invasion by shore batteries. In Civilization 5, you could hardly do anything about it. But now, a destroyer squadron to come near the coast and defending a country town on einheizen - because the defender must be considerably more careful and on guard. And with the increased health reserves are now running from battles much more exciting than before.

GamersGlobal: We are curious. In any case, thank you for your time and good luck on the home stretch.

On March 15 2012 16:28 Ota Solgryn wrote:
I started my first game yesterday and was really confused. I picked a standard sized map, and yet it was completely surrounded by other cities. I took one of them, but still i thought there was more "space" on the maps. Or should I just choose max size maps?

Also, it seem pretty demanding on the CPU, but I guess it's because 7 AIs actually have to be controlled by the computer each turn and somehow this is demanding.

On March 15 2012 16:56 FecalFrown wrote:
Does anything else think that Culture is very weak in Civ 5? If you try to win via culture have to sacrifice so much to do it.

Science and military victories go hand in hand, because often the person who is ahead in science will win military battles as well (The higher tech units CRUSH lower tech ones, swarming vs them just gives them xp). You are also encouraged to expand to win in these ways, because more expansion means more science and gold which means more military which means more expansion.

Culture is the exact opposite. Investing in culture means you CANT expand, so all of the above is moot. In addition, the bonuses for culture are pretty weak. Great your borders expand faster. That's useless because your city will not grow nearly fast enough to have citizens to work all the extra tiles you've accrued. Faster social policies is pretty horrible too. An entire tree dedicated to gaining culture faster? You gain culture faster so you can other social policies faster.... uhh why not just spend the points in another tree where they will actually benefit your actual play, not this abstract 'culture' that will EVENTUALLY win you the game, if you manage to hold out for 500 turns while having sub par technology (and thus military), and few cities.

Sorry for the rant, it just seems like a glaring design flaw to make a victory condition based on a closed loop of getting culture for the sake of getting culture..

On March 15 2012 16:56 FecalFrown wrote:
Does anything else think that Culture is very weak in Civ 5? If you try to win via culture have to sacrifice so much to do it.

Science and military victories go hand in hand, because often the person who is ahead in science will win military battles as well (The higher tech units CRUSH lower tech ones, swarming vs them just gives them xp). You are also encouraged to expand to win in these ways, because more expansion means more science and gold which means more military which means more expansion.

Culture is the exact opposite. Investing in culture means you CANT expand, so all of the above is moot. In addition, the bonuses for culture are pretty weak. Great your borders expand faster. That's useless because your city will not grow nearly fast enough to have citizens to work all the extra tiles you've accrued. Faster social policies is pretty horrible too. An entire tree dedicated to gaining culture faster? You gain culture faster so you can other social policies faster.... uhh why not just spend the points in another tree where they will actually benefit your actual play, not this abstract 'culture' that will EVENTUALLY win you the game, if you manage to hold out for 500 turns while having sub par technology (and thus military), and few cities.

Sorry for the rant, it just seems like a glaring design flaw to make a victory condition based on a closed loop of getting culture for the sake of getting culture..