I think continuing along
28. Rde2 Nxf3 29. gxf3 Bxf3 30 Kg1 Bxe2 31 Rxe2

will be fine for us. The pawn on e6 should fall to us rather soon so it'll be a trade of two pawns and a rook for two minor pieces and a pawn. Positionally all our pieces are in the right position.

This set up should allow a nice advanced knight post on d6, and I think we can start picking off some of black's queenside pawns soon. When talking with Incognito, I posed this line in saying that it would be inferior to 26. Kg1 but objectively it's not so bad.

Athos

United States2484 Posts

January 19 2010 17:52 GMT

#786

Nxd5

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With plans of doubling up next move. Unless I'm drastically off we should win the A pawn in this line.

dozko

United Kingdom160 Posts

January 19 2010 17:59 GMT

#787

I vote for 28.Rde2

Now we have a really long series of forced moves so maybe go for quick voting again? (this is also a good exercise for newer chess players to try and work out a variation a few moves deep to see its possible)

Best play Variation:
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28...Nxf3 29.gxf3 bxf3 30. Kg1 bxe2 31.Rxe2 f3 32. Rxe6 f2 33.Kg2

@ Arhkangel 28.h3
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This forces black to attack indeed, the problem is it gains him equality. In general when playing white, absent a quick tactical variation which forces a win, you want to play to develop an attack whilst stopping any counterplay, i.e. utilizing the first move advantage. With h3 you basically say "go for your plan since I can not think of anything active to do myself". After 28... g4 starting the attack, 29. Nxd5 exd5 30.Rde2 Kf6 31. b5 (finally utilizing the bishop) Nd3 32. hxg hxg 33. fxg4 f3 34. gxf3 Rxf3

Now look at the position. Blacks pieces are immense, central passer will be deadly in a few moves after the roocks are exchanged and blacks queenside is defending comfortably. This loses for white IMO.

proberecall

United States104 Posts

January 19 2010 19:33 GMT

#788

been away but back now !

28. Rde2 agreeing with ^

Ikari

United States176 Posts

January 19 2010 20:34 GMT

#789

On January 20 2010 02:52 Athos wrote:
Nxd5

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With plans of doubling up next move. Unless I'm drastically off we should win the A pawn in this line.

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28.Nxd5 exd5 29.Rde2 Kf6 and I don't see how we can win the pawn.

Arhkangel

Argentina769 Posts

January 19 2010 23:24 GMT

#790

O.K. I guess my vote goes for 28.Rde2

The quick votes should kick in again. At this point I want to see if lightman can come up with a miracle move. I want my face to look like this O.O

SR423

United States15 Posts

January 20 2010 03:12 GMT

#791

I think Rde2 looks good.

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Originally thought of moving Red1 for the open file but putting pressure on the knight and moving it from such a central position, and threaten the pawn behind it, looks viable.

jfazz

Australia672 Posts

January 20 2010 03:13 GMT

#792

Hey Arkhangel. The FIDE ranking comes from playing in FIDE recognised events, which in turn depends upon the central chess organisation in your country. So contacting them would be the best method. For example, I play in state and national tournaments every year, that count towards my rating, as well as a few smaller events now and then (and sometimes on occasion, internationally, when the moon, stars and animal entrails all fall into line).

Sadly, some countries (cough european union ones) have it much easier than the rest of us!

The BIG tournaments every year to watch are Corus Wijk Aan Zee (happening RIGHT NOW!), Morelia-Linares (happenings in a few weeks, considered the #1 tournament), and the Bilbao Super Grandfinal, in November i believe, which is played between the winners of all the year's bigger tournaments. In recent years, the Tal Memorial tournament has also been of great importance.

Also popular are the M-Tel/Sophia tournaments in Bulgaria, and the Nanjing tournament in China.I liked the 2009 London Chess Classic as well. Melody-Amber, the rapid/blindfold tournament is a lot of fun as well, you get to see the super-GMs play crazy stuff!

My chief reccomendation would be to find players of a style you enjoy, and learn from their games, to see how they handle different positons. I use Karpov, Kramnik, Capablanca, Nimzowitch and of course, the great master of blockade and restraint, Petrosian. Youll notice they all at some point played the Caro-Kann, Nimzo-Indian and QID, and were all 1.d4/1.Nf3 players, so my whole repetoire is covered by them.

Arhkangel

Argentina769 Posts

January 20 2010 05:02 GMT

#793

Damn then my my chances of playing in a FIDE Sanctioned tournament are pretty low. I will try to attend the Bilbao Super Grandfinals, I was planing of visiting Spain anyway later this year.. Morelia-Linares is starting way too soon :p

From the games I've seen in chessgames.com I have really enjoyed the Karpov and Nimzowitch games. Capablanca's games (who apparently is like the Boxer of chess) are sometime way to hard for me to try and figure out what he was going for.

Were can I get updates on the Corus Wjik Aan Zee? Just Google that and see what comes up?

And dude GET BACK IN THE GAME! And by game I mean THIS ONE!

*Random note: Flipping thru the channels I catched an episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent were one of the suspects is a fugitive Grand Master and the whole theme of the show is Chess. Pretty good episode, and I had never seen it before. /back on topic (more like topics :p)

Lightman I think it's pretty safe to update whenever you want. Seems the vote is almost unanimous.

TanGeng

Sanya12364 Posts

January 20 2010 06:05 GMT

#794

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the other alternative: some what interesting I think:

28. ... Nc4 29. Nxd5 exd5 30 Bxc4 cxc4 31 Rc1 Rd8
definitely back rank rook move on 31 better than moving the 2nd rank rook but this probably not an idea situation

28. ... Nc4 29. Nxd5 exd5 30 b5
not 30. ... cxb5 31. c6 Rf7 32. Re7 and white has a dangerous level of control of the queening squares

how about 30. ... Ne3 31. bxc6

30. ... Nxa3 31. bxc6 is even worse than cxb5

any other possibilities along this line?

jfazz

Australia672 Posts

January 20 2010 07:05 GMT

#795

I likw www.chessgames.com

you can use the links to active tournaments on the left hand side to see all the games fr Corus, or any other tournament as they happen.