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+ Show Spoiler +On January 17 2010 11:38 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:03 Incognito wrote:New line: + Show Spoiler +
26. Ba6 h5 27. Re1 Rf5 28. Ne2! A good move that practically forces g4. White threatens Nd4, winning the knight. If the knight moves now, then Bd3 and white is ahead. So black has to play g4 to give the rook somewhere to move if Nd4. 28. ... g4 29. Nxf4.
The rook can't take back otherwise 29. ... Rxf4 30. Rxe5 gxf3 31. g3 f2+ 32. Rxd5 f1=Q+ 33. Bxf1 Rxf1 34. Kg2 exd5 Kxf1 and white is a pawn up with a better pawn structure. So 29. ... gxf3 30. Nxd5 exd5 31. gxf3. 31. ... Nxf3 is not a true fork, since white can pin the black knight. 32. Rf1 Nxd2 33. Rxf5 and white is slightly better. If black attacks the a-pawn with 33. ... Nc4, 34. Bxc4 and white wins with a better pawn structure and more advanced pawns. If 33. ... h4, 34. b5 and white wins because 34. ... cxb5 loses to 35. c6 and black can't stop the pawn (the nice thing about having the right colored bishop).
So on move 31, black should probably play 31. ... Kf6 defending the rook and getting off the open g-file. 32. Rf2 Rf4. Black can't take the pawn else he'll lose a piece. 33. Rfe2! and black STILL can't take the pawn. 33. ... Nxf3 34. Rf1 with Ref2 to follow. If 34. ... Rf8 to protect the knight after the king moves, then 35. b5 wins. Black can't defend here.
So please ignore 28. Rde2, it does indeed fail to Nxf3. 28. Ne2 is better.
So Ba6 is still good. Please vote for 26. Ba6
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26. Ba6 h5 27. Re1 Rf5 28. Ne2!? g4 29. Nxf4 Rxf4 30. Rxe5 gxf3 31. g3
I don't understand your continuation but
31. .. Rf6 32 Kg1 h4
and I fail to see how this is good for white. Black has a supported passed pawn and now the black bishop on d5 is beautiful instead of being a rather useless piece. Certainly an open and interesting style of play though.
Hmm... right. Ok then I vote for Rb2. 26. Rb2 h5 preparing g4, 27. b5 g4. If 27. ... cxb5, then 28. Nxd5 exd5 29. Rxd5 Re6 protecting the knight 30. Rxb5 and white has won a pawn. 28. Nxd5 exd5 and now 29. Rb4 gxf3 30. gxf3. White threatens 31. bxc6 Nxc6 32. Rxb8 Nxb8 33. Rxd5, so black plays 30. ... Rf5 to guard that pawn: 30. ... Rf5 31. bxc6 Nxc6 32. Rxb8 Nxb8 33. Bb5, threatening to push the pawn. 33. ... d4 34. c6 Rc5 35. Rxd4 Nxc6 36. Bxc6 Rxc6 37. Rxf4 and white is winning again. If 30. ... Re8, threatening a discovery on the bishop at e2 if the exchanges take place, then 31. Ra4 wins.
I change my vote from 26. Ba6 to 26. Rb2.
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Sanya12364 Posts
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Re1 and Re2 are both easily playable here, but still Ba6 was a bit meh.
I'll vote for Re1 so as not to go against the trend ^^
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Hey wasn't it a 3-3 tie vote?
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Hm, indeed I counted 3 for Kg1, 2 for Rb2 and 3 for Ba6???
Edit: unless vote changes are not allowed?
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I vote Re1
Changes are allowed, they have been so far why would it be different now. You guys sure that it was a tie? Or maybe I am wrong and vote changes haven't been allowed :p
jfazz any word on those annotations? Blog it and let us know!
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My guess is changes are not allowed as per the whole "move first piece touched" tournament rule.
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I say we follow this line since it's actually not terrible to get the two minor pieces for two pawns and a rook given that black's queen side pawn structure is terrible, the two rooks start off in awkward positions, the white king is right on the queening squares of black's two passed pawns, and the bishop and knight coordinate well in this situation.
along 26. ... h5 27. Re1 Rf5 28 Rde2
28. ... Nxf3 29 gxf3 Bxf3+ 30 Kg1 Bxe2 31 Rxe2 Kf6
which is about equality even though black trade the two minor pieces for the Rook and two pawns.
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Hi, sorry if this is a stupid question and/or answered already somewhere in this thread, but can I still sign up to get a vote for the TL team in this match?
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Hey guys, annotations incoming, im home in two days, so ill try to do one a day after that. What exactly do you guys want? Aside from the games themselves, do you want my analysis, what I was thinking, what the goals were, EVERYTHING?  Let me know.
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^Yes Please
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I don't suppose you could post it as an applet so we could play it out easily?? If not we can download it and some engine can just read it in? I'd want to see the game without "spoilers"
Hehe if I have the time.
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Ok cool.
Ill post them as text, formatted as per .pgn files, then all you need to do would be to copy them into notepad/wordpad, then open that file with whatever .pgn viewer you use (say crafty, rybka, shredder for example). Then ill field open forum questions on the games.
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On January 19 2010 12:44 jfazz wrote:Hey guys, annotations incoming, im home in two days, so ill try to do one a day after that. What exactly do you guys want? Aside from the games themselves, do you want my analysis, what I was thinking, what the goals were, EVERYTHING? Let me know.
For sure... I'm no good at chess, but as I read this thread, I'm learning alot about it, so an indepth discussion would be cool
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Oooooo the .png thing is great! But letting us know what you were thinking would be awsomesauce. I probably wouldn't even know what to ask :p
O, also a little title on top of each annotation saying who you played and what opening it was would be greatly appreciated.
jfazz how does one go about getting at least ranked by FIDE, playing a FIDE sanctioned tournament? Were can I find one of those that someone that isn't ranked can join. I noticed Dominican Republic doesn't even have a single ranked FIDE player (how can that be!).
Also what is the WCG/OSL equivalent of chess? The biggest tournament that everyone looks forward too even if they are not playing. I wouldn't mind using some of my miles to go to a a chess tournament in Russia or something as an spectator. I take it if the tournament is big enough there will be some panels or something you can attend as well and that would be swell.
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