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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 15 2010 09:00 GMT
#741
I'll go with 25. a3.
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lightman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States731 Posts
January 15 2010 17:50 GMT
#742

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JUST PLAYED: 25...g5

VOTING CLOSES: SUNDAY


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dozko
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom160 Posts
January 15 2010 19:27 GMT
#743
Time to get the king into the game methinks

Vote for 26. Kg1
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YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
January 15 2010 20:05 GMT
#744
26. h3
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26. ... g4 seems like a dangerous move. We're forced to exchange, because if we don't, an exchange later on f3 could result in a fork. We don't want to exchange with our f pawn, so I thought hxg4 would be a better idea. Black's rook can go to h6, but that's not too much of a threat.
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Ikari
Profile Joined April 2007
United States176 Posts
January 15 2010 20:19 GMT
#745
26. Kg1 looks fine.
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h3 feels bad, and 26...g4 doesn't end up with a good position after Kg1 it seems.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 15 2010 21:33 GMT
#746
26. Kg1

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People seem to have the right idea.

26. ... g4 isn't good because we always have Nxd5 which neutralises the threats.

didn't work out the best follow up variations yet.
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proberecall
Profile Joined August 2009
United States104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-15 22:36:09
January 15 2010 22:33 GMT
#747
26. Rb2 is better than 26. Kg1

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there is no need to involve the king in battle yet, let im come smash into our wall kingside

26. Rb2 h5 27. b5 ! cxb5 28. Nxd5 exd5 29. Rbd2 and we're better , and if 26. Rb2 h5 27. b5 g4 28. Rb4 and we're looking sold, he can't threat us nowhere.

Kg1 slows down the pace of our momentum so let's not lose our grip !!



I vote 26. Rb2
dozko
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom160 Posts
January 15 2010 23:04 GMT
#748
@proberecall

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Your analysis is a bit inaccurate. Why exactly should black play h5 after Rb2 ? Consider ...h6 cementing the kingside. This allows black to free his passive took by ..Rf7 and place it on a more active central file in the future.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 16 2010 01:31 GMT
#749
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Going into the long term if 26. ... h6 solidifying, we should can continue 27. Re1 Rf5 28. Kf2 securing the f3 pawn that's been threaten this who time. Then, the black bishop becomes a glorified pawn until the e6 pawn moves forward. Still it blocks the activity of our rooks so we will want to get rid of it when the time is right. Tactically, we can pile up on the e-file and exchange the knight for the bishop whenever we choose to.

26. ... h5 attacking 27. Rd4 g4 28 Kf2 and now if black exchanges on f3 white easily takes the open g file with the rook

most intriguing is

26. ... a5 27. bxa5 opening up opportunities for black - this line makes me wish we had played 25. Rd4 instead. Maybe we'll go back to review the possibilities
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
January 16 2010 04:07 GMT
#750
26. Rd4, yet again :-)
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
January 16 2010 08:32 GMT
#751
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On January 16 2010 08:04 dozko wrote:
@proberecall

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Your analysis is a bit inaccurate. Why exactly should black play h5 after Rb2 ? Consider ...h6 cementing the kingside. This allows black to free his passive took by ..Rf7 and place it on a more active central file in the future.

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Why play h6 solidifying when black can play h5 and attack on the kingside, which is his only active option at this point? Enough said.


26. Rb2 isn't bad, but I'll propose my alternative...

26. Ba6, responding to the threat of 26. ... g4. If 26. ... g4, then 27 Re1! Rf5 28. Nxd5 exd5 29 Rde2 and we win a pawn. So g4 is not an option for black.

I can only think of two other reasonable moves in this situation. Black can play Rf5 or h5. 26. ... Rf5 27. Re1, pressuring the e-file. From here, black should play 27. ... h5, after which we double rooks with 28. Rde2 Ng6 29. Bd3 Rff8 and now b5, and white is good.

27. ... h5 28. Re1 Rf5 transposes into the above line, so I'll look at 28. ... Ng6. 29. Ne4. Now 29. ... Bxe4 doesn't make much sense for black, so he can try 29. ... Rf5 now protecting the g4 pawn. Now 30. Kg1 g4 31. Kf2 and white can defend the kingside.


I vote for 26. Ba6
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
January 16 2010 09:56 GMT
#752
i like moves like ba6
lets do that
26. ba6
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Azazello
Profile Joined June 2008
United States14 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 10:00:40
January 16 2010 09:58 GMT
#753
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Interesting plan: 26.Rd4 followed by Ne4, answering the seemingly likely ...Bxe4 with Rxe4, and ousting the Ne5 via B-moves and Rde1 if necessary. Seems hard to get much after (e.g.) ...Ng6 and ...e5 (if necessary), but it may finally get rid of the menace on e5, and after the terribly passive 25.a3, it's pretty hard to care.
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
January 16 2010 11:22 GMT
#754
26.Ba6
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Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
January 16 2010 18:39 GMT
#755
Crazy idea:
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26.Rg1 ...


Think about it...
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The trades are going to start sooner or later I don't know why we keep trying to fortify a very well defended queen side and having a weak structure on king side. Rg1 puts a halt on any trap he could be setting up and let US initiate the trades not him.


I vote 26. Rg1


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Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
January 16 2010 18:50 GMT
#756
Ba6
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 16 2010 19:03 GMT
#757
On January 16 2010 17:32 Incognito wrote:
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On January 16 2010 08:04 dozko wrote:
@proberecall

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Your analysis is a bit inaccurate. Why exactly should black play h5 after Rb2 ? Consider ...h6 cementing the kingside. This allows black to free his passive took by ..Rf7 and place it on a more active central file in the future.

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Why play h6 solidifying when black can play h5 and attack on the kingside, which is his only active option at this point? Enough said.


26. Rb2 isn't bad, but I'll propose my alternative...

26. Ba6, responding to the threat of 26. ... g4. If 26. ... g4, then 27 Re1! Rf5 28. Nxd5 exd5 29 Rde2 and we win a pawn. So g4 is not an option for black.

I can only think of two other reasonable moves in this situation. Black can play Rf5 or h5. 26. ... Rf5 27. Re1, pressuring the e-file. From here, black should play 27. ... h5, after which we double rooks with 28. Rde2 Ng6 29. Bd3 Rff8 and now b5, and white is good.

27. ... h5 28. Re1 Rf5 transposes into the above line, so I'll look at 28. ... Ng6. 29. Ne4. Now 29. ... Bxe4 doesn't make much sense for black, so he can try 29. ... Rf5 now protecting the g4 pawn. Now 30. Kg1 g4 31. Kf2 and white can defend the kingside.


I vote for 26. Ba6


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along 26. ... h5 27. Re1 Rf5 28 Rde2
28. ... Nxf3 29 gxf3 Bxf3+ 30 Kg1 Bxe2 31 Rxe2 Kf6
which is about equality even though black trade the two minor pieces for the Rook and two pawns.

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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
January 16 2010 22:03 GMT
#758
New line:

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26. Ba6 h5 27. Re1 Rf5 28. Ne2! A good move that practically forces g4. White threatens Nd4, winning the knight. If the knight moves now, then Bd3 and white is ahead. So black has to play g4 to give the rook somewhere to move if Nd4. 28. ... g4 29. Nxf4.

The rook can't take back otherwise 29. ... Rxf4 30. Rxe5 gxf3 31. g3 f2+ 32. Rxd5 f1=Q+ 33. Bxf1 Rxf1 34. Kg2 exd5 Kxf1 and white is a pawn up with a better pawn structure. So 29. ... gxf3 30. Nxd5 exd5 31. gxf3. 31. ... Nxf3 is not a true fork, since white can pin the black knight. 32. Rf1 Nxd2 33. Rxf5 and white is slightly better. If black attacks the a-pawn with 33. ... Nc4, 34. Bxc4 and white wins with a better pawn structure and more advanced pawns. If 33. ... h4, 34. b5 and white wins because 34. ... cxb5 loses to 35. c6 and black can't stop the pawn (the nice thing about having the right colored bishop).

So on move 31, black should probably play 31. ... Kf6 defending the rook and getting off the open g-file. 32. Rf2 Rf4. Black can't take the pawn else he'll lose a piece. 33. Rfe2! and black STILL can't take the pawn. 33. ... Nxf3 34. Rf1 with Ref2 to follow. If 34. ... Rf8 to protect the knight after the king moves, then 35. b5 wins. Black can't defend here.

So please ignore 28. Rde2, it does indeed fail to Nxf3. 28. Ne2 is better.

So Ba6 is still good. Please vote for 26. Ba6


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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
January 17 2010 02:38 GMT
#759
On January 17 2010 07:03 Incognito wrote:
New line:

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26. Ba6 h5 27. Re1 Rf5 28. Ne2! A good move that practically forces g4. White threatens Nd4, winning the knight. If the knight moves now, then Bd3 and white is ahead. So black has to play g4 to give the rook somewhere to move if Nd4. 28. ... g4 29. Nxf4.

The rook can't take back otherwise 29. ... Rxf4 30. Rxe5 gxf3 31. g3 f2+ 32. Rxd5 f1=Q+ 33. Bxf1 Rxf1 34. Kg2 exd5 Kxf1 and white is a pawn up with a better pawn structure. So 29. ... gxf3 30. Nxd5 exd5 31. gxf3. 31. ... Nxf3 is not a true fork, since white can pin the black knight. 32. Rf1 Nxd2 33. Rxf5 and white is slightly better. If black attacks the a-pawn with 33. ... Nc4, 34. Bxc4 and white wins with a better pawn structure and more advanced pawns. If 33. ... h4, 34. b5 and white wins because 34. ... cxb5 loses to 35. c6 and black can't stop the pawn (the nice thing about having the right colored bishop).

So on move 31, black should probably play 31. ... Kf6 defending the rook and getting off the open g-file. 32. Rf2 Rf4. Black can't take the pawn else he'll lose a piece. 33. Rfe2! and black STILL can't take the pawn. 33. ... Nxf3 34. Rf1 with Ref2 to follow. If 34. ... Rf8 to protect the knight after the king moves, then 35. b5 wins. Black can't defend here.

So please ignore 28. Rde2, it does indeed fail to Nxf3. 28. Ne2 is better.

So Ba6 is still good. Please vote for 26. Ba6





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26. Ba6 h5 27. Re1 Rf5 28. Ne2!? g4 29. Nxf4 Rxf4 30. Rxe5 gxf3 31. g3

I don't understand your continuation but
31. .. Rf6 32 Kg1 h4

and I fail to see how this is good for white. Black has a supported passed pawn and now the black bishop on d5 is beautiful instead of being a rather useless piece. Certainly an open and interesting style of play though.
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
January 17 2010 08:38 GMT
#760
Hey gents leaving for home in two days; do you want my game summaries here or in a blog post? I want to start working on them during the flight. I went +2=6 in the open; not sure if thqt is enough to collect a second (third) rating norm.
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