Holy crap, what an article. I only skimmed it but oh man, you can believe i'll be going over all this a few times in the coming weeks.

@_@

Sucks about the match fixing. Won't really comment but to say i think harsh penalties are mandatory. You need a deterrent. The higher the penalty, the higher the risk, the less likely people are to get involved. Can't stop everyone, but like moderation (forum moderation etc) you need a strict enforcement policy. I hope our foreigner SC2 growth is ready to tackle this issue head on should it ever arise here. Serious business.

BLinD-RawR

ALLEYCAT BLUES50269 Posts

May 25 2011 16:13 GMT

#682

Damn it Ver I read this like 7 times already,I probably know this article word for word now lol.

I can't Wait for Part 2.HOLY WARZZZZ!!!

saviour

China5 Posts

May 25 2011 16:18 GMT

#683

i think sAviOr is the best Zergplayer in our world
please win the respect of him
no Ma Bonjwa no zerg
i am Ma Bonjwa fan forever
excellent article

United States6173 Posts

May 25 2011 16:28 GMT

#684

This is a pretty great article. I'm still reading it, but I wanted to comment regardless. I'm glad this was posted.

Jedclark

United Kingdom903 Posts

May 25 2011 16:29 GMT

#685

This was brilliant, it opened my eyes to one of, if not the greatest player in the world! I enjoyed this article very much, Savior seemed brilliant. Shame he cheated, though.

xboxola

Sweden2 Posts

May 25 2011 16:31 GMT

#686

Great article dissecting an important and overlooked aspect of the game.

audioTM

United States3 Posts

May 25 2011 16:36 GMT

#687

Awesome article. Very well written and awesome images and VOD's to go with it.

Trowa127

United Kingdom1230 Posts

May 25 2011 16:36 GMT

#688

I need to find some time to read the whole thing, but from the first section I get the feeling this is going to be really great. Amazing presentation, amazing topic, are you a journalist or just a TL contributor?

Aldehyde

Sweden939 Posts

May 25 2011 16:39 GMT

#689

Thanks for this article. It made me appreciate BW more than I previously did as someone who came into this community by the time TSL 2 started to finish up (RO4, I think) so I've only ever heard of the big names like Boxer and SaviOr. Never seen them play and never known what was so special about them.

I do watch the occasional MSL/OSL/Proleague, though, after being hyped up by all the enthusiasm on this site. Quite awesome stuff, quite awesome indeed.

MrASAP

United Kingdom63 Posts

May 25 2011 16:58 GMT

#690

very well written article. I did intend to play some sc2 last night but instead ended up reading and watching all the vods, then it was too late to play heh

Dfgj

Singapore5922 Posts

May 25 2011 17:00 GMT

#691

I love articles that dissect what made great players great.

Nice job.

Gatsbizzle

United States132 Posts

May 25 2011 17:05 GMT

#692

Awesome article; this in-depth examination of play is what I love about Final Edits and Brood War!

Sharkyloft

Colombia69 Posts

May 25 2011 17:07 GMT

#693

On May 25 2011 12:56 DamageControL wrote:

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These questions are not able to be answered. As much as I would love to provide answers. Brood War, to answer the question, was simpler in the beginning than it is today, to say the very least. But it's impossible to compare the two, even from the start. In SC2 we had a huge base of knowledge to start with that didn't exist in BW. But I don't know that it CAN'T evolve. It's impossible to say without time/expansions.

edit: And before people say we should just "give it time" I think it's ok to start to wonder what will need to happen in expansions to see another BW

Another edit: BTW to the other response that we just need to wait, all games don't magically end up BW. Plenty of games have just straight flopped or die.

Thank You
I totally Agree with you.
There are some things that depend on how the game is designed. Maybe SC2 is just not as deep as a game right now, and no matter how much time we wait, if it is not changed, it will never reach the level BW has. Im not sure about this, Im no game designer myself, but it deserves some thought.

I mean, it looks like childsplay when compared to what Saviour, Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, Oov and others were doing. Just look at GSL!

Could it be that the game is faster paced so that deep profound complex strategies are less viable than overwhelming timing attacks?

lphoenixl

Canada71 Posts

May 25 2011 17:09 GMT

#694

Wow.. awesome article. The tactics made in sc1 can be easily translated to sc2. This article made me miss the lurker and its capability to hold down positions and delaying attacks. Perhaps burrowed banelings will be the answer for sc2. This makes me excited for what types of monsters will appear in the future.

Tsavong

Canada15 Posts

May 25 2011 17:18 GMT

#695

He's so dreamy♥...

hacklebeast

United States5090 Posts

May 25 2011 17:29 GMT

#696

I'm sorry you had to sit on this for a year, would have drove me crazy. This is what TLFEs should look like.

Nice artwork too.

Edit: the FBH dance means a lot more all of a sudden

Ravencruiser

Canada519 Posts

May 25 2011 17:30 GMT

#697

Seriously all the tactics stated in the articles are what makes BW great.

These tactics still apply in SC2 but to a much lesser extent, and that, is the difference.

Savior is going to destroy everyone in 2013 when he's serving his prison sentence

kamikami

France1057 Posts

May 25 2011 17:40 GMT

#698

I really hope there will be more mention of Bisu in part 2 ^^, or at least explained why the god of the battlefield "tactics" got destroyed completely by Bisu's dagger of justice.

zXk3

Mexico1178 Posts

May 25 2011 17:40 GMT

#699

I WILL ONLY SAY THIS ONCE, FUCK YOU!!! YOU KNOW IM WEAK TO MA JAE JOON

I miss you Savior, i really do

Otakusan

United States59 Posts

May 25 2011 17:47 GMT

#700

Excellent read. To the new readers/members of TL since the release of SC2, this article gives a glimpse of why SC2 lacks so far behind SC:BW when it comes to tactics, positioning, mind games, and overall greatness.

THIS is why BW veterans always bash SC2. Because BW has so much more to offer.

This article brought nerd tears to my eyes. I watched SC:BW since SlayerS_`BoxeR` (yes, correctly spelled) days and followed the rise and deaths of bonjwas and development of strategies, and I honestly wish SC2 will develop into something even of comparison.