EPTIt was also a great game?
Hwasin vs Bisu [spoilers] - Page 3
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keinjuan
Canada17 Posts
It was also a great game? | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
On October 22 2007 18:21 Red_Dragon wrote: It was so amazing when Bisu engaged Hwasins superior army many times and he managed to kill more than he should have. It is so hard to believe. One thing I noticed when watching that game live. Bisu is not even aware of the size of Hwasins army, he first pulls his guys back, but then like he said to himself fuck it. He engages in the fight and yet somehow kills good amount of terran force. This guy (Bisu) is so confident in his skill, macro and micro. Amazing player to watch. Bisu reminds me much of Ra at the peak of his carer. I still remember how Ra could (greatly outnumbered) just obliterate NaDa`s army. Ra could do so much damage with so little units thanks to his great micro. It makes you think no one else than Ra could have done that. Bisu does the same thing. yea. thats the scary thing. bisu doesnt really know what he's facing. quite a few times he attacks, back it up, then just all in attacks and creates a big dent in hwasin's army... magically. the guy has fucking balls of steel picking the fights he does then a fucking absolute zero cool mind to execute the micro to create as much havoc as possible. | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i21.tinypic.com/14uuhs2.jpg) Great job on the writing. I wasnt interested in watching Ro16 till i saw this analysis. | ||
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Oxygen
Canada3581 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
zergs try to adapt to bisu... and fail | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
Thanks for the read, it was a sweet summary. | ||
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.dragoon
United States749 Posts
Bisu would always catch Hwasin's tanks exposed without a vulture buffer, which is why he gets away with more kills than he should. It's impeccable timing for sure, but it ain't no sorcery. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
he'd always catch the opponent's army at the perfect time with no margin for error while macroing perfectly. of course you can always explain how someone made an amazing play. "he made more units than the other guy and his units were in better position." this doesn't somehow diminish the fact that he did it. Bisu, and maybe Stork, are the only two protosses in the world capable of pulling off those two games (12v3 python with equal bases and lower worker count in game 2, low-damage dt drop and equal bases in game 3). if this isn't amazing, what is? can you even name a PvT display that was more impressive? | ||
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mrscheng
Sweden658 Posts
On October 22 2007 11:11 Snipinpanda wrote: kwanro fighting! ......>.> yes _ _ ^ | ||
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OnCoke
Romania49 Posts
On October 23 2007 04:32 Hot_Bid wrote: pshhhh bisu doesn't adapt to zergs zergs try to adapt to bisu... and fail qft PS: Thanks for the very nice writeup Michael aka Oxy, or Oxygen, or o]O2[o. Looking forward to your next one (bisu vs. kwanro maybe? :D ) and your next one (bisu vs. nal_ra maybe? :D ) and the final (bisu vs. savior maybe? :D ) - i know some of you know what i did here  | ||
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
On October 23 2007 04:12 anch wrote: Great job on the writing. I wasnt interested in watching Ro16 till i saw this analysis. LOL | ||
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dO_ov
United States190 Posts
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[]Dlayer
United States15 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20667 Posts
Nobody thought iloveoov could lose a macro war to Protoss. Let alone on Mercury. But it did happen. That's irrelevant though, considering we're discussing this MSL, not some 3-year-ago OSL. On the third game - there are so many "ifs". if HwaSin had moved out earlier. If HwaSin hadn't fucked up his defensive micro in defending BiSu's hanbang at the end. If if if. The ifs are what separates a champion from a perennial almost-there. HwaSin just misses those ifs, while BiSu will generally clinch every opportunity granted. It's why he wins. I do not like BiSu, but I respect his uncanny ability to win in seemingly hopeless situations. I did want HwaSin to win, and felt he had overall more solid play. But what I love about BW is that games are so easily reversed - you can play better for 15 out of 16 minutes, but lose it all in that last minute. Both players had a fighting chance throughout. Even at this highest level of competition, there is still possibility to come back. Mirrors are the exception. Fortunately, this was not a mirror. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20667 Posts
Reach/BoxeR SKY 2002 [Neo Forbidden Zone]: Everyone really, really loves game 4. Game 1 is pretty popular too, I guess. Nowadays you look at it and the mistakes show - big, glaring errors. But five years ago, those shuttle storm-drops were just so wonderfully amazing. They still are. iloveoov/Reach EVER 2004 [Mercury Set 1]: Previously mentioned reason. Taking on iloveoov during his bonjwa period in a macro war on a bad map and coming out on top. Closely fought 5-game series in one of the best OSLs ever. Reach/iloveoov UZOO 2005 [Luna? Neo Requiem? I'm conflicted on this one, actually]: OK, so the Requiem game had just classic zealot/DT bombing. The Luna game.. well, that one is just crazy. Reach just takes on the giant Maginot line of tank/turret/mine/vulture head on. Despite the 3-0 score, iloveoov did not play badly either - crazy macro, as usual. BoxeR/PuSan So1 2005 [Ride of Valkyries]: Coming from 0-2 down to win 3-2? In that game 3 situation? I still can't believe BoxeR won that game. Completely failed proxy BBS with absolutely zero damage. While you might attribute it to imperfections in PuSan's game, those micro feats that BoxeR pulled off facing elimination.. just crazy. AnyTime/BoxeR So1 2005 [Ride of Valkyries Set 1]: A really good SL final. Good back and forth games. Game 1 was especially good. Those mines... ahhh. Game 4's mines were wonderful as well. Another 0-2, but no complete comeback this time. Unfortunate, really. This is by no means an exhaustive list. Just the most memorable for me Maybe it's just that a Bo3 doesn't have the same glory as a Bo5. The comeback from 0-1 to 2-1 is not as great as 0-2 to 3-2. Maybe it's the lower stakes - Ro16 as opposed to Semis/Finals. Whatever the reason, these games, despite the extreme level of skill shown, will impact the game's history less. Only game 3 had any "close" feeling. 1 and 2 were honestly quite one-sided. So then, just going by a single game - game 3 - then perhaps it can compete more solidly. Just judging by a single game and not the quality of the series overall, game 3 of this Bisu/HwaSin series fares much better. The number of single games that eclipse it.. very few. | ||
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mel_ee
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
watching Boxer play TvP is so painful, he's so fluid and fun yet so hopelessly outclassed macro-wise. i agree that game 3 is the strong point here. | ||
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HonestTea
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