On March 20 2012 05:04 Lefaa wrote:
Idra losing to incontrol, that is just sad -_-
Idra losing to incontrol, that is just sad -_-
InControl was the only toss to beat Sleep at Lone Star, so idk what that says.
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
March 19 2012 21:59 GMT
#37801
On March 20 2012 05:04 Lefaa wrote: Idra losing to incontrol, that is just sad -_- InControl was the only toss to beat Sleep at Lone Star, so idk what that says. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
March 19 2012 21:59 GMT
#37802
On March 20 2012 06:56 Azarkon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 06:49 Chewbacca. wrote: On March 20 2012 06:45 kingtut wrote: true idra has been very poor in tournaments and show matches but on NA ladder atleast he has been absolutly tearing people. Also basically all his losses have occured to either top level Koreans...MC/Alive/Taeja/Nestea/Oz, or they have been cross server clan matches. I don't recall seeing him play many games against average Koreans/foreigners on the same server in a while. The breaking line for a lot of his fans is the last IEM - he won vs. Supernova, but lost against Kas, Feast, ReaL, and DarkForce, none of whom are really top pros. Except Kas is one of the best foreign terrans. That guys macro is pretty good ;o Feast as well have been showing lots of good play lately EDIT: I mean relatively top pros. None of them come close to the Code S players, but these are no slouches either | ||
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InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
March 19 2012 22:08 GMT
#37803
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
March 19 2012 22:08 GMT
#37804
Psy live casting the game against Idra earlier today :D | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
March 19 2012 22:10 GMT
#37805
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
March 19 2012 22:14 GMT
#37806
On March 20 2012 06:59 Aocowns wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 06:56 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:49 Chewbacca. wrote: On March 20 2012 06:45 kingtut wrote: true idra has been very poor in tournaments and show matches but on NA ladder atleast he has been absolutly tearing people. Also basically all his losses have occured to either top level Koreans...MC/Alive/Taeja/Nestea/Oz, or they have been cross server clan matches. I don't recall seeing him play many games against average Koreans/foreigners on the same server in a while. The breaking line for a lot of his fans is the last IEM - he won vs. Supernova, but lost against Kas, Feast, ReaL, and DarkForce, none of whom are really top pros. Except Kas is one of the best foreign terrans. That guys macro is pretty good ;o Feast as well have been showing lots of good play lately EDIT: I mean relatively top pros. None of them come close to the Code S players, but these are no slouches either Kas, Feast, DarkForce, and ReaL are by no means bad, but they aren't at the level of top Korean pros like MMA, DRG, Polt, Genius, MC, etc., or top foreigner pros like Stephano and Naniwa. IdrA is by no means bad, either, but he's not among the best foreigners anymore. As long as IdrA stayed in Korea and lost cross-server matches and matches against top Koreans, there was still the hope that he was among the best foreigners. IEM was a blow to that, and coupled with how poorly IdrA has been playing in everything as of late, it was a crushing blow. IdrA needs a win right now. He needs it badly. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
March 19 2012 22:16 GMT
#37807
On March 20 2012 07:14 Azarkon wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 06:59 Aocowns wrote: On March 20 2012 06:56 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:49 Chewbacca. wrote: On March 20 2012 06:45 kingtut wrote: true idra has been very poor in tournaments and show matches but on NA ladder atleast he has been absolutly tearing people. Also basically all his losses have occured to either top level Koreans...MC/Alive/Taeja/Nestea/Oz, or they have been cross server clan matches. I don't recall seeing him play many games against average Koreans/foreigners on the same server in a while. The breaking line for a lot of his fans is the last IEM - he won vs. Supernova, but lost against Kas, Feast, ReaL, and DarkForce, none of whom are really top pros. Except Kas is one of the best foreign terrans. That guys macro is pretty good ;o Feast as well have been showing lots of good play lately EDIT: I mean relatively top pros. None of them come close to the Code S players, but these are no slouches either Kas, Feast, DarkForce, and ReaL are by no means bad, but they aren't at the level of top Korean pros like Polt, MMA, DRG, MC, etc., or top foreigner pros like Stephano and Naniwa. IdrA is by no means bad, either, but he's not among the best foreigners anymore. As long as IdrA stayed in Korea and lost cross-server matches and matches against top Koreans, there was still the hope that he was among the best foreigners. IEM was a blow to that, and coupled with how poorly IdrA has been playing in everything as of late, it was a crushing blow. IdrA needs a win right now. He needs it badly. IEM was one freaking tournament, he does bad at one tournament and all of a sudden people start freaking i honestly dont get it | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
March 19 2012 22:17 GMT
#37808
On March 20 2012 07:16 Forikorder wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 07:14 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:59 Aocowns wrote: On March 20 2012 06:56 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:49 Chewbacca. wrote: On March 20 2012 06:45 kingtut wrote: true idra has been very poor in tournaments and show matches but on NA ladder atleast he has been absolutly tearing people. Also basically all his losses have occured to either top level Koreans...MC/Alive/Taeja/Nestea/Oz, or they have been cross server clan matches. I don't recall seeing him play many games against average Koreans/foreigners on the same server in a while. The breaking line for a lot of his fans is the last IEM - he won vs. Supernova, but lost against Kas, Feast, ReaL, and DarkForce, none of whom are really top pros. Except Kas is one of the best foreign terrans. That guys macro is pretty good ;o Feast as well have been showing lots of good play lately EDIT: I mean relatively top pros. None of them come close to the Code S players, but these are no slouches either Kas, Feast, DarkForce, and ReaL are by no means bad, but they aren't at the level of top Korean pros like Polt, MMA, DRG, MC, etc., or top foreigner pros like Stephano and Naniwa. IdrA is by no means bad, either, but he's not among the best foreigners anymore. As long as IdrA stayed in Korea and lost cross-server matches and matches against top Koreans, there was still the hope that he was among the best foreigners. IEM was a blow to that, and coupled with how poorly IdrA has been playing in everything as of late, it was a crushing blow. IdrA needs a win right now. He needs it badly. IEM was one freaking tournament, he does bad at one tournament and all of a sudden people start freaking i honestly dont get it Well that, coupled with the fact that Idra has done poorly at everything, bar the vs Huk matches where Huk played bad. | ||
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
March 19 2012 22:18 GMT
#37809
On March 20 2012 07:16 Forikorder wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 07:14 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:59 Aocowns wrote: On March 20 2012 06:56 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:49 Chewbacca. wrote: On March 20 2012 06:45 kingtut wrote: true idra has been very poor in tournaments and show matches but on NA ladder atleast he has been absolutly tearing people. Also basically all his losses have occured to either top level Koreans...MC/Alive/Taeja/Nestea/Oz, or they have been cross server clan matches. I don't recall seeing him play many games against average Koreans/foreigners on the same server in a while. The breaking line for a lot of his fans is the last IEM - he won vs. Supernova, but lost against Kas, Feast, ReaL, and DarkForce, none of whom are really top pros. Except Kas is one of the best foreign terrans. That guys macro is pretty good ;o Feast as well have been showing lots of good play lately EDIT: I mean relatively top pros. None of them come close to the Code S players, but these are no slouches either Kas, Feast, DarkForce, and ReaL are by no means bad, but they aren't at the level of top Korean pros like Polt, MMA, DRG, MC, etc., or top foreigner pros like Stephano and Naniwa. IdrA is by no means bad, either, but he's not among the best foreigners anymore. As long as IdrA stayed in Korea and lost cross-server matches and matches against top Koreans, there was still the hope that he was among the best foreigners. IEM was a blow to that, and coupled with how poorly IdrA has been playing in everything as of late, it was a crushing blow. IdrA needs a win right now. He needs it badly. IEM was one freaking tournament, he does bad at one tournament and all of a sudden people start freaking i honestly dont get it It's because he had been doing really badly for a long time in many different situations. He has won next to none of his games, and I don't remember the last time I watched him win a series in a tournament recently. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
March 19 2012 22:19 GMT
#37810
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
March 19 2012 22:23 GMT
#37811
On March 20 2012 07:08 Aocowns wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN87Zy4qdSQ&feature=g-u-u&context=G2d35d6fFUAAAAAAAJAA Psy live casting the game against Idra earlier today :D "oh fucking shit it is the real idra" i love psy <3 and he loves idra so more <3 | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
March 19 2012 22:25 GMT
#37812
On March 20 2012 07:16 Forikorder wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 07:14 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:59 Aocowns wrote: On March 20 2012 06:56 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:49 Chewbacca. wrote: On March 20 2012 06:45 kingtut wrote: true idra has been very poor in tournaments and show matches but on NA ladder atleast he has been absolutly tearing people. Also basically all his losses have occured to either top level Koreans...MC/Alive/Taeja/Nestea/Oz, or they have been cross server clan matches. I don't recall seeing him play many games against average Koreans/foreigners on the same server in a while. The breaking line for a lot of his fans is the last IEM - he won vs. Supernova, but lost against Kas, Feast, ReaL, and DarkForce, none of whom are really top pros. Except Kas is one of the best foreign terrans. That guys macro is pretty good ;o Feast as well have been showing lots of good play lately EDIT: I mean relatively top pros. None of them come close to the Code S players, but these are no slouches either Kas, Feast, DarkForce, and ReaL are by no means bad, but they aren't at the level of top Korean pros like Polt, MMA, DRG, MC, etc., or top foreigner pros like Stephano and Naniwa. IdrA is by no means bad, either, but he's not among the best foreigners anymore. As long as IdrA stayed in Korea and lost cross-server matches and matches against top Koreans, there was still the hope that he was among the best foreigners. IEM was a blow to that, and coupled with how poorly IdrA has been playing in everything as of late, it was a crushing blow. IdrA needs a win right now. He needs it badly. IEM was one freaking tournament, he does bad at one tournament and all of a sudden people start freaking i honestly dont get it Timing. IdrA is doing well -> losing a tournament like that is a non-issue. A fluke. But he's not doing well. IEM is one more example of him not doing well, the clincher being that this time he's losing against foreigners. | ||
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MaddogStarCraft
Canada64 Posts
March 19 2012 22:34 GMT
#37813
On March 20 2012 07:16 Forikorder wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 07:14 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:59 Aocowns wrote: On March 20 2012 06:56 Azarkon wrote: On March 20 2012 06:49 Chewbacca. wrote: On March 20 2012 06:45 kingtut wrote: true idra has been very poor in tournaments and show matches but on NA ladder atleast he has been absolutly tearing people. Also basically all his losses have occured to either top level Koreans...MC/Alive/Taeja/Nestea/Oz, or they have been cross server clan matches. I don't recall seeing him play many games against average Koreans/foreigners on the same server in a while. The breaking line for a lot of his fans is the last IEM - he won vs. Supernova, but lost against Kas, Feast, ReaL, and DarkForce, none of whom are really top pros. Except Kas is one of the best foreign terrans. That guys macro is pretty good ;o Feast as well have been showing lots of good play lately EDIT: I mean relatively top pros. None of them come close to the Code S players, but these are no slouches either Kas, Feast, DarkForce, and ReaL are by no means bad, but they aren't at the level of top Korean pros like Polt, MMA, DRG, MC, etc., or top foreigner pros like Stephano and Naniwa. IdrA is by no means bad, either, but he's not among the best foreigners anymore. As long as IdrA stayed in Korea and lost cross-server matches and matches against top Koreans, there was still the hope that he was among the best foreigners. IEM was a blow to that, and coupled with how poorly IdrA has been playing in everything as of late, it was a crushing blow. IdrA needs a win right now. He needs it badly. IEM was one freaking tournament, he does bad at one tournament and all of a sudden people start freaking i honestly dont get it He was considered for a while as the best foreigner, and as of late after a 4 month stay in Korea he comes back and in his first tournament, and shits the bed completely. As of late he has just been playing terrible as compared to how he was before. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
March 19 2012 22:54 GMT
#37814
one single tournament wait till after MLG at least | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
March 19 2012 23:07 GMT
#37815
On March 20 2012 07:54 Forikorder wrote: its still ONE Tournament one single tournament wait till after MLG at least It's not just one tournament though. It's also IronSquid (albeit, that was played at least a month ago), MLG Winter Arena, multiple team arenas and at least two show matches. It's obvious that IdrA is in a bit of a slump right now. No need to be doom and gloom about it, but there's also need to pretend otherwise. | ||
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Antithesis
Germany1213 Posts
March 19 2012 23:07 GMT
#37816
On March 20 2012 07:54 Forikorder wrote: its still ONE Tournament one single tournament wait till after MLG at least What are you talking about? It was not "one tournament". Two weeks before IEM there was MLG Winter Arena, where Idra dropped out first round 0-4. Then he went 1-4 at IEM. In between, he lost (almost or actually) every team league match he played. In Korea, he lost both show matches he played 0-4. And at the moment he is 0-2 in his group in Iron Squid. That's not even debatable, he's doing really bad for quite some time now, even at foreigner events. It'd be cool if he'd showcase great matches soon, but there's no point in denying facts. | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
March 19 2012 23:16 GMT
#37817
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
March 19 2012 23:22 GMT
#37818
On March 20 2012 08:07 WolfintheSheep wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 07:54 Forikorder wrote: its still ONE Tournament one single tournament wait till after MLG at least It's not just one tournament though. It's also IronSquid (albeit, that was played at least a month ago), MLG Winter Arena, multiple team arenas and at least two show matches. It's obvious that IdrA is in a bit of a slump right now. No need to be doom and gloom about it, but there's also need to pretend otherwise. Ironsquid: 2 Koreans, one being a top Korean MLG Winter Arena: 2 Top Koreans 2 Showmatches: 2 Top Koreans Don't think Idra was expected to win any of those, capable? Sure, but not expected. Team areans you could throw out that they were cross server as excuse | ||
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RaiD.RaynoR
United States294 Posts
March 19 2012 23:27 GMT
#37819
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
March 19 2012 23:35 GMT
#37820
On March 20 2012 08:07 Antithesis wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2012 07:54 Forikorder wrote: its still ONE Tournament one single tournament wait till after MLG at least What are you talking about? It was not "one tournament". Two weeks before IEM there was MLG Winter Arena, where Idra dropped out first round 0-4. Then he went 1-4 at IEM. In between, he lost (almost or actually) every team league match he played. In Korea, he lost both show matches he played 0-4. And at the moment he is 0-2 in his group in Iron Squid. That's not even debatable, he's doing really bad for quite some time now, even at foreigner events. It'd be cool if he'd showcase great matches soon, but there's no point in denying facts. in Winter arena be barely lost against one of the top Protoss's then fought the ZvZ GOD so not much to say there IEM was one tournament where he put out some bad results, but he beat Supernova so it wasnt all bad so ya, he does bad in one tournament and people start acting like hes been bad for ever | ||
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