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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 19:28:30
June 18 2012 19:27 GMT
#59481
On June 19 2012 04:27 DEN1ED wrote:
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On June 19 2012 04:22 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 19 2012 04:20 nalho wrote:
On June 19 2012 04:17 Requizen wrote:
I think the issue here is that people have different ideas about what the word "choreography" means. On one hand, it can be used to talk about the individual moves and how they flow together, in which case KMY's is really great choreography. On the other, when talking about a group, it can also mean how the group works together to use different moves separately to make something greater than the sum of it's parts, which is something I think SNSD's videos generally do well, and the KMY one that was linked lacks because they're essentially just all doing the same dance.

Semantics and opinions, of course, but that's my $0.02


and it only took 2 page for someone to finally nail it.

Pretty much


Only 2 pages is pretty good for this thread lol. Usually it takes at least 10.

Only when it involves polls, new songs or fandom wars.

add anything involving Sones to that
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
June 18 2012 19:37 GMT
#59482
On June 19 2012 04:04 andyrau wrote:
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On June 19 2012 02:01 Purpl3 wrote:
Epik High’s comeback is written on YG's stock market report for the second half of 2012! Prepare your butts.

highly doubt that
epik high is still under CJ ent

also itt: people who know nothing about choreo

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From YG Stock Report, so it could be YG's investment into Tablo that they mention it.
Murdco
Profile Joined June 2011
United States745 Posts
June 18 2012 19:37 GMT
#59483
This is a really petty argument geez doods come on, circle jerking is bad mmkay but senseless arguments are also bad mmkay.

10cm released their first ever OST, enjoy.
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
June 18 2012 19:38 GMT
#59484
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
June 18 2012 19:50 GMT
#59485
To be honest, you both are sounding pretty ridiculous. If it weren't for the body-hugging clothes, that Paparazzi video that Nesserev linked would be just average, and 'a mix of a lot of smart patterns with great transitions, big movements that have a smooth flow with subtle yet necessary details, plays on the song and impressive moments' is pretty damn exaggerated/fanboyish coming from an outsider who just watched the video. Sounds almost like a PR release.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 19:54:04
June 18 2012 19:52 GMT
#59486
finally someone who understands

also i think if snsd does sync choreo. People like Yoona would look like a pretty back up dancer.
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Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 19:56:48
June 18 2012 19:54 GMT
#59487
On June 19 2012 04:38 Nesserev wrote:
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On June 19 2012 03:31 Moonwrath wrote:
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On the contrary, Kan Miyoun's Paparazzi is boring choreography. That video you linked sucks. There's no variety and every single person is doing the exact same thing the entire time. Might as well be 1 person dancing.

That's why I find Jaewon and Rino's choreo so good. During the verses the members are split in parts doing separate moves, there's a lot of variety in pairings, and a ton of symmetry during solo parts. All of the separate moves come together in the chorus for a cohesive look, but it's not all nine doing the same thing for the entire song. The dance itself is also vastly more technically challenging than that horribly basic video you linked.

In the end, nobody's mind is getting changed so whatever. Either you like it or you don't, but seriously lol at you calling choreo by 2 of the best choreographers in the business bad.

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You probably don't like synchronized swimming either.

If you think that there can only be variety in 'not everyone does the same thing' and you think it's boring that people can sync up their dancing then well, you're wrong and if you think that video I linked sucks, I'm sorry that the streaming quality of the video isn't that good cause it's impossible for a sane person to think that their dancing sucks. Oh, wait...

Wether or not Kan Mi Youn's choreography is basic or not... Choreography is not all about the fancy stuff like the stuff that SNSD tries to pull off. A lot of things happen at the same time, like for example the pairings and pairings tend to work well sometimes, but it's hard to pull them off without getting a messy dance as a result and to put it frankly they weren't able to pull it off. The choreography looks really messy at times, but I don't know wether that's because the choreography isn't optimal or because SNSD just doesn't perform it like it should be done.

Ridiculous analogy coming up:
Basically, you're saying that in a restaurant, you'd pick the most exquisite dish that tastes average over the good old made-by-momma spaghetti, because it's way more fancy and more complicated to make, while the good old made-by-momma spaghetti tastes way better in the end, which is (relatively) simpler too make (still hard to refine it to that level of perfection).

You can't go around the fact that some of the transitionings are clunky and that there are a lot of dead, stale moments.
I've found one play on the song and that's during Jessica's part during the bridge, with the ripple effect, but they kinda botched that one cause the ripple effect sounds so out of place.

Everyone his own taste, but I don't know if my spaghetti comes is from seventh or eigth heaven.


See, this is the sort of argument worth reading (and posting in the first place) - not exaggerating what someone else said and kicking up a fuss about it. Thank you

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Murdco
Profile Joined June 2011
United States745 Posts
June 18 2012 19:57 GMT
#59488
Lena Park's tittle track for new album Parallax


Will update if I find the rest.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 19:58:07
June 18 2012 19:57 GMT
#59489
On June 19 2012 04:37 Purpl3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 04:04 andyrau wrote:
On June 19 2012 02:01 Purpl3 wrote:
Epik High’s comeback is written on YG's stock market report for the second half of 2012! Prepare your butts.

highly doubt that
epik high is still under CJ ent

also itt: people who know nothing about choreo

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From YG Stock Report, so it could be YG's investment into Tablo that they mention it.

yea, seems like the implied translation is "tablo of epik high," not epik high itself.
so tablo solo album again later this year?
no thx
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Lokk
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 20:36:29
June 18 2012 20:35 GMT
#59490
New kim jisook and Min Hoon Ki OST >> good~

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Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
June 18 2012 20:49 GMT
#59491
On June 19 2012 03:38 VirtuallyJesse wrote:
Why isn't this here? Time for some real music
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Hehe, I pressed the song and ended up looking at something else. Glad I recognized the voice, indeed Kang Mi Jin Yes very good music indeed. I get so happy if I recognize voices, what an achievement! :p Also within groups I like to try doing that.
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Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#59492
Guy's I like the choreo in both Paparazzi's. Is there something wrong with me?

Any new pics of HwaYoung since all these T-ara shots are coming out?
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 18 2012 21:37 GMT
#59493
No people just like to try to convince other people that their opinions are wrong.
Pulselol
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1628 Posts
June 18 2012 21:50 GMT
#59494
Everyday, Girl's Day.

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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 18 2012 21:58 GMT
#59495
On June 19 2012 06:28 Radioman wrote:
Guy's I like the choreo in both Paparazzi's. Is there something wrong with me?

Any new pics of HwaYoung since all these T-ara shots are coming out?


Here you go, bro.

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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
June 18 2012 22:01 GMT
#59496
On June 19 2012 03:56 Fawkes wrote:
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On June 19 2012 03:55 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Really, the only problem the Paparazzi choreo has is not enough Taeyeon

Your desktop does not have enough Taeyeon. That's all I know about this discussion.

I... I changed it to this now
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#59497
as a casual dancer of kpop, KMY's dance doesn't look ... interesting at all. it looks *good* because of the heels + hips, but it's a combination of all the basic hip moves you can do sexily plus a few arm motions.

not that kpop dance is supposed to be interesting. KMY paparazzi is cookie cutter girl kpop dancing and it's great. but anything rino does is infused with awesomeness and unexpected movements. can't go wrong with rino.
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
June 18 2012 22:08 GMT
#59498
insooni performing ring ding dong like a boss
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
June 18 2012 22:13 GMT
#59499
Why does Hwayoung of all of them get the normalish hair?
Murdco
Profile Joined June 2011
United States745 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#59500
Ham's hair is normal not at all weird, maybe its just me though
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