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On January 30 2016 23:11 Miragee wrote: Yeah same. And wow, you are plowing through Monster like it is nothing. Will be quite the marathon to finish it today. 22 episodes left. Watched 25 episodes yesterday, it's just way too engaging to stop at this point. I need to know what happens next. | ||
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goody153
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On January 30 2016 21:08 Unleashing wrote: I'm still amazed that some people liked kaori so much considering how obnoxious and downright rude she was. + Show Spoiler + But i guess some people are ready to forget that just because 'b-b-but she's dying!". I just don't personally see why i'm supposed to get super engaged and care about her illness and eventual death when the series does such a poor job of making the viewers connect with her as a character. Am i supposed to care solely because she's dying? She was one of the main reasons i just had to drop the show, couldn't keep watching. what she's cute she's angsty but she's like a light in the darkness kind of eccentric (but that's just me i like manic pixie dream girl kind of trope or something similar to those type's of story or characters from that trope or similar) | ||
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On January 31 2016 00:27 goody153 wrote: what she's cute she's angsty but she's like a light in the darkness kind of eccentric (but that's just me i like manic pixie dream girl kind of trope or something similar to those type's of story or characters from that trope or similar) Yeah + Show Spoiler + Beating up someone you just met for no real reason? So cute! Kicking someone you barely know over the shin because he doesn't want to play the piano for you and some kids? So cute! Forcing someone with severe trauma to do something he doesn't want to? So cute! And so on. I mean it all works because anime/manga tropes, so nobody expects people to actually apologize for doing something shitty to someone else because 'muh cute girls'. But as far as i'm concerned the way kaori treated MC was just obnoxious, rude and selfish. Also really didn't help that the story tries to be all serious and dramatic and then ruins it with incredibly horribly placed 'slapstick' humor and changes in art style which completely destroys any tension the series might've been trying to build up. | ||
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On January 31 2016 00:37 Unleashing wrote: Yeah + Show Spoiler + Beating up someone you just met for no real reason? So cute! Kicking someone you barely know over the shin because he doesn't want to play the piano for you and some kids? So cute! Forcing someone with severe trauma to do something he doesn't want to? So cute! And so on. I mean it all works because anime/manga tropes, so nobody expects people to actually apologize for doing something shitty to someone else because 'muh cute girls'. But as far as i'm concerned the way kaori treated MC was just obnoxious, rude and selfish. Also really didn't help that the story tries to be all serious and dramatic and then ruins it with incredibly horribly placed 'slapstick' humor and changes in art style which completely destroys any tension the series might've been trying to build up. + Show Spoiler + I mean it doesn't really help since both of his best friends pretty much don't care about his physical welfare too. Tsubaki also beats him up too by the way that was not just "beat him up for no reason" + Show Spoiler + also that wasn't no reason at all MC was trying to take picture of Kaori even though they don't know each other and when her skirt flew she saw him taking a picture of her of course in her perspective he looks like a pervert trying to take a shot under her skirt it was a misunderstanding of course he wasn't really trying to take a picture of under her skirt but herself instead but still even that case you don't photograph people without their permission her reason was pretty reasonable .. you know those news about desperate perverted dudes caught trying to get a picture of girls panties secretly (yeah it happens in my country) .. that's serious stuff, though it wasn't his purpose but it looked like that | ||
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Numy
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Also for all the complaining people do about Tsundere's they fucking love them. Geez I don't get it. Like the sister from Toradora | ||
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You don't photograph people you don't know without their permission that's a big no-no . I'd say the first time Taiga hit Yuji (toradora) was alot more stupid than Kaori hitting glasses-boy at the start. | ||
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On January 31 2016 00:44 Numy wrote: I watched the first 2 episodes and just couldn't stand the show. I love Hitagi even though she was crazy awful to Araragi at the start but what you have to not only some kind of justification for her actions but also progression of her character throughout the story. Think You lie in April's high praise stems from the general audience not actually watching any real/good drama so something that has all the correct tropes while forcing drama on you seems perfect to them. Also for all the complaining people do about Tsundere's they fucking love them. Geez I don't get it. Like the sister from Toradora I'm still fairly certain this applies heavily to shigatsu: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/X7RxzTz.jpg) On January 31 2016 00:47 goody153 wrote: in this case the first meetup beatup of Kaori to MC wasn;t unreasonable for sure .. IRL if you get caught with that you'd end up in prison and probably get beaten up by the public first You don't photograph people you don't know without their permission that's a big no-no . I'd say the first time Taiga hit Yuji (toradora) was alot more stupid than Kaori hitting glasses-boy at the start. Uh, what are you talking about? If people are in public places and playing music there's no law stopping you from taking pictures of them. Atleast not in any country i've been in, feel free to find the japanese laws regarding it though if you want to get into that. Sure you aren't allowed to stalk one person and repeatedly takes pictures of them exclusively(Or use their picture for profit/publish it online), but afaik there's no law against photography of people performing in public spaces. In denmark, the only one of the two who could fear prison would be kaori (if they were both above 18) for assault. Edit: Looked it up: http://tonymcnicol.com/2009/01/26/photography-in-japan-what-are-your-rights/ As I understand it, there are no restrictions on taking photos in public places in Japan. But if the picture is published and you have infringed someone’s right to privacy, they can sue you and have a good chance of winning. | ||
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On January 31 2016 01:06 Numy wrote: Yea my friend is into photography and takes random pictures of people in public all the time. Were all the pictures I saw from when he went to Oktober Fest also bad. Guess he's going to jail too! Dammit Goody where do you live that's so weird. Girls and boys sleeping together but never doing anything, polygamy running rampart, taking public photos lands you beaten up in jail. LOL, I laughed. Idk what he's smoking either, guess he's trying to find something to make Kaori look better. | ||
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goody153
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On January 31 2016 00:58 Unleashing wrote: Uh, what are you talking about? If people are in public places and playing music there's no law stopping you from taking pictures of them. Atleast not in any country i've been in, feel free to find the japanese laws regarding it though if you want to get into that. Sure you aren't allowed to stalk one person and repeatedly takes pictures of them exclusively(Or use their picture for profit), but afaik there's no law against photography of people performing in public spaces. In denmark, the only one of the two who could fear prison would be kaori (if they were both above 18) for assault. Lets look at it in this perspective. If somebody took a picture of you and without your permission and you don't know the person. Not background where you are. No personally you, he took picture directly of you. How would you feel ? Isn't it weird. And what you don't want people to randomly snap photos of you, wouldn't you be mad ? You see the law may not prohibit it but for some people it's offensive and rude. (i would be annoyed at that somebody if somebody took my picture without asking, for others they probably think you're making fun ) Even with celebrities you don't just snap pictures at them, you ask if it's ok to take their picture or take a picture with them. Now lets add more factors. Think of Kaori, she's a girl . If somebody took a picture of you as a girl wouldn't she normally think "why is that creep taking my picture" and now + Show Spoiler + the timing was superb CAUSE YOU ANIME CLICHE lewl so the time that Kaori looked at Kosei ( HAHA i remember his name now rofl ) her skirt flew up and he looked like he was taking a picture of her underwear now if it looked like you took a picture of somebody's under the skirt, wouldn't they be mad ? especially if they don't know that person and you didn't ask their permission the only circumstances i see where it's ok to take somebodies with revealed underwear is when they agreed to do it It was a misunderstanding (CAUSE ROFL THE ONLY PLACE LIKE WHERE FALLING INTO SOMEONE BOOBS IS NORMAL SHIT IS FOUND IN ANIME) but in Kaori's perspective it looked creepy and perverse. Normally if somebody took pictures of you without your permission and you don't know that person, you'd think it's either you're "making fun of me" or "why are you taking pictures of me" if you are chill person. If you are a girl possibly you'd think that the person is creepy or perverted. In the case of toradora, Taiga punched Yuji cause he stared at her and called her (tiger was it ?), in the case of shigatsu the first time Kaori saw MC was that he was taking a picture of her while her skirt flew up which led to her thinking that I mean haven't you seen it before with some of your friends who is uncomfortable when somebody takes a picture of them without their permission or them agreeing to it. That alone is enough to not make it a good thing to pictures of somebody if they don't wanna. Sure it's not a prohibition but is it rude if they didn't agree ? Yes easily. Imo that wasn't unreasonable (btw i had wrong grammar or missed words or wrong sentence construction in that long shit pls understand it's too long and i typed too fast .. not editing that shit) On January 31 2016 01:06 Numy wrote: Yea my friend is into photography and takes random pictures of people in public all the time. Were all the pictures I saw from when he went to Oktober Fest also bad. Guess he's going to jail too! Dammit Goody where do you live that's so weird. Girls and boys sleeping together but never doing anything, polygamy running rampart, taking public photos lands you beaten up in jail. On January 31 2016 01:11 HolydaKing wrote: LOL, I laughed. Idk what he's smoking either, guess he's trying to find something to make Kaori look better. lol good stuff guys .. read my explanation and alsoo uhhmmm know the details of that scene in particular why it's offensive you didn't check the context of + Show Spoiler + In Kaori's perspective it looked like somebody was taking her picture under the skirt. So yeah if that's not rude idk what is I'm sure there's also a difference between taking picture of someone directly and taking a picture just for the place or maybe the scenery or for the event etc. ( i have a couple of friends who's either camera shy or just don't wanna have pictures who'd get mad if you took pictures of them without asking them .. at least that's in my experience) Also I didn't wanna explain the details here cause it would be spoiler so open the spoilerino ! :D | ||
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(even if it just looked like that ) Like compared to Toradora where Taiga literally punched Yuji just for staring lol | ||
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Unleashing
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On January 31 2016 01:23 goody153 wrote:If somebody took a picture of you and without your permission and you don't know the person. Not background where you are , no personally you, he took picture directly of you. How would you feel ? Isn't it weird. And what you don't want people to randomly snap photos of you, wouldn't you be mad? If someone was stalking me just to specifically take pictures of me, sure, but if i was performing music in public with kids and someone took a picture in our general direction, then no. On January 31 2016 01:23 goody153 wrote:"Even with celebrities you don't just snap pictures at them, you ask if it's ok to take their picture or take a picture with them. What are paparazzi. On January 31 2016 01:23 goody153 wrote:It was a misunderstanding (CAUSE ROFL THE ONLY PLACE WHERE FALLING INTO SOMEONE BOOBS IS NORMAL SHIT) but in Kaori's perspective it looked creepy and perverse. Sure it was a misunderstanding, but i still fail to see where the logical reaction is to literally assault someone. Especially since how could he know a wind was gonna blow that exact moment? How could he have been prepared for that or fast enough to react? There's nowhere in the scenario where kaori's reactions was reasonable. On January 31 2016 01:23 goody153 wrote:Sure it's not a prohibition but is it rude if they didn't agree ? Yes easily. Imo that wasn't unreasonable" And you don't consider it unreasonable to literally beat someone up over it? In what world is the reasonable reaction violence? She could've gotten flustered, angry, mad, sad or shout at him or insult him or demand that he deletes it. All of those are reasonable reactions, beating him up? Nah that's not a reasonable reaction. But as i already said earlier: I mean it all works because anime/manga tropes, so nobody expects people to actually apologize for doing something shitty to someone else because 'muh cute girls'. | ||
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Just the usual anime trope doing it's usual things and people loving it. If you think about it too hard it starts breaking down so just don't think about it. edit: @Unleashing - Assault is also a pretty serious thing in reality. Not sure how that's the default "reasonable" action. Maybe it's all the anime trope influences. Only real time assault is a reasonable action is in self defense but then it's no longer assault anyway lol. I'm fine with the whole trope in a comedy show or when it takes a serious spin on it. Trying to be serious drama and have random comedy tropes constantly is extremely hard to do well. It's a juggling act that requires tremendous skill. I don't know of any anime that does this purely since I don't watch much comedy. For live action I'd point to Scrubs as the best I've ever watched that does this. No show could go from hilarity to down right misery so dam well. | ||
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On January 31 2016 01:06 Numy wrote: Yea my friend is into photography and takes random pictures of people in public all the time. Were all the pictures I saw from when he went to Oktober Fest also bad. Guess he's going to jail too! Dammit Goody where do you live that's so weird. Girls and boys sleeping together but never doing anything, polygamy running rampart, taking public photos lands you beaten up in jail. To be honest, people I know told me the same thing when I was photographing kids playing on the street, alongside other things. "This can get you into jail" or "What will you say if they accuse you of being a creepy pedo in court"... I was like "what...". I looked it up and at least here it is true: You aren't allowed to photograph people that are identifiable on the actual photo without their permition. That is true as long as those people are the main object of the photo. A permition however can be done silently. Smiling into the camera would e enough for example. Germany... In regards to Shigatsu I agree with Unleashing: The only person that would be in trouble is Kaori for beating him up. If it's not self-defence, beating someone up is never lawful. //What I forgot: Making pictures of gatherings, performances and events is allowed. | ||
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It's just not a type of humor that is very funny or remotely interesting after you've seen it 100 times before. Personal opinion and all obviously though. | ||
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Of course violence is never ok ( for obvious reasons it never will be ) but i can see the person getting angry and get physical in this terms. I mean come on like hypothetically if your sister found somebody taking pictures of under her skirt. How do you think would she react ? (of course assume that in her perspective it looked like somebody was taking pictures of her for perverted reasons) Leave as fast as possible (that's normal), but if she even at least yelled at that person or did other angry actions or gestures. Would that be weird ? No ? Imagine if in public for example a wife's husband found out that somebody is taking pictures of her wifes underwear ( again assuming it's how it looks like in his perspective ) and thought it was for perverted reasons. I don't think the husband would stay put, i'd see him threatening or warning the guy or at least saying "what the fuck are you doing", if he punched the guy that wouldn't be unusual. you know, you get the gist of my point hmm to make it clear .. what i'm trying to say is that it's unusual if people went physical for that kind of matter but i don't mean it's the correct move ) | ||
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On January 31 2016 01:48 goody153 wrote: Yeah i didn't add events or other circumstances where taking a picture of somebody you don't know is ok (i typed really long shit not gonna check) where it's ok to take picture that's reasonable too but usually out of like random that's not ok for sure. Of course violence is never ok ( for obvious reasons it never will be ) but i can see the person getting angry and get physical in this terms. I mean come on like hypothetically if your sister found somebody taking pictures of under her skirt. How do you think would she react ? (of course assume that in her perspective it looked like somebody was taking pictures of her for perverted reasons) Leave as fast as possible (that's normal), but if she even at least yelled at that person or did other angry actions or gestures. Would that be weird ? No ? Imagine if in public for example a wife's husband found out that somebody is taking pictures of her wifes underwear ( again assuming it's how it looks like in his perspective ) and thought it was for perverted reasons. I don't think the husband would stay put, i'd see him threatening or warning the guy or at least saying "what the fuck are you doing", if he punched the guy that wouldn't be unusual. you know, you get the gist of my point No i really don't get your point, goody. My sister wouldn't physically beat someone up because they accidentally took a picture where the wind blew up her skirt. She isn't some violent person that can't control herself to the point where her reaction to something like that is violence. She'd get angry, incredibly angry, she'd probably throw all kinds of profanity at the person, but she wouldn't attempt to get violent. It's just not a reasonable reaction irl. Edit: Anyway this is going pretty off-topic, so i'll stop it here. | ||
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On January 31 2016 01:45 Miragee wrote: To be honest, people I know told me the same thing when I was photographing kids playing on the street, alongside other things. "This can get you into jail" or "What will you say if they accuse you of being a creepy pedo in court"... I was like "what...". I looked it up and at least here it is true: You aren't allowed to photograph people that are identifiable on the actual photo without their permition. That is true as long as those people are the main object of the photo. A permition however can be done silently. Smiling into the camera would e enough for example. Germany... In regards to Shigatsu I agree with Unleashing: The only person that would be in trouble is Kaori for beating him up. If it's not self-defence, beating someone up is never lawful. + Show Spoiler [Legal stuff] + Here as long as it's public domain you waiver any rights to privacy. Children is where things kind of leave the legal aspect and go more into the social aspect. It's technically legal without requiring permission but in reality you want to get permission of parents just in case. Think it's one of those things that have changed over the years. Now pedophilia hysteria is quite high so people are quick to freak out where as before it was seen as perfectly fine which is maybe why the law is technically fine with it but application of it may not go your way. Anyway Kaori is an ass and Hitagi is a goddess. | ||
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