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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-14 17:59:35
November 14 2015 16:29 GMT
#107441
On November 15 2015 00:32 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 13:33 felisconcolori wrote:
On November 14 2015 09:12 XenOmega wrote:
Hanekawa vs Ougi! It's on


I don't think that can become a serious contest. Ougi just lacks a certain... QUALITY... that Hanekawa has in abundance.

Which I think Ougi pointed out. Be interesting to see how the story goes in the next arc.


While she is lacking in a certain area, Ougi isn't just Hanekawa minus said quality

With her apparition in the past shows, I'm tempted to believe that she isn't 'good'.

S2 : + Show Spoiler +
Ougi was 'responsible' for Nadeko turning into snake goddess


Owari : + Show Spoiler +
She 'lured' Araragi into the classroom, she's stalking the MC/following him/knowing everything about him

about s2 + Show Spoiler +
it is also highly implied that Ougi is the one who's behind the "darkness" and killed Mayoi... or send her to hell or whatever you want to call it


Lol, they called the new OP after what gollum says about the ring in german: "mein Schatz" / "my precious". Probably not intentional and not really a fan of the music in that one but it sure does look nice

Also + Show Spoiler [pic] +
[image loading]

I know what character Kanbaru would play in smash already


nice episode for an ep1 of a new arc lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 14 2015 18:49 GMT
#107442
Garo: + Show Spoiler +
I keep on saying this, but the new Garo has like the worst battles ever. Struggle a few sec until Golden Knight gets released, then instakill no matter the opponent. Other than that it's OK though, but nothing I really look forward to watch.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 14 2015 18:58 GMT
#107443
On November 15 2015 01:29 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 00:32 XenOmega wrote:
On November 14 2015 13:33 felisconcolori wrote:
On November 14 2015 09:12 XenOmega wrote:
Hanekawa vs Ougi! It's on


I don't think that can become a serious contest. Ougi just lacks a certain... QUALITY... that Hanekawa has in abundance.

Which I think Ougi pointed out. Be interesting to see how the story goes in the next arc.


While she is lacking in a certain area, Ougi isn't just Hanekawa minus said quality

With her apparition in the past shows, I'm tempted to believe that she isn't 'good'.

S2 : + Show Spoiler +
Ougi was 'responsible' for Nadeko turning into snake goddess


Owari : + Show Spoiler +
She 'lured' Araragi into the classroom, she's stalking the MC/following him/knowing everything about him

about s2 + Show Spoiler +
it is also highly implied that Ougi is the one who's behind the "darkness" and killed Mayoi... or send her to hell or whatever you want to call it


Lol, they called the new OP after what gollum says about the ring in german: "mein Schatz" / "my precious". Probably not intentional and not really a fan of the music in that one but it sure does look nice

Also + Show Spoiler [pic] +
[image loading]

I know what character Kanbaru would play in smash already


nice episode for an ep1 of a new arc lol

+ Show Spoiler [S2] +
For all the bad things Ougi is responsible for, the darkness isn't on her.
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Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 00:58:45
November 15 2015 00:27 GMT
#107444
On November 15 2015 01:29 Toadesstern wrote:
about s2 + Show Spoiler +
it is also highly implied that Ougi is the one who's behind the "darkness" and killed Mayoi... or send her to hell or whatever you want to call it


Mind elaborating? Because:
+ Show Spoiler [Monogatari Series, Second Season] +
Season 2 pretty clearly shows the origin of the Darkness and what it's purpose is. Unless you want to imply that Ougi was the one who created it and caused it to chase Shinobu,I cannot see how you can come to such a conclusion with the information available in the anime series.


And I decided to drop a few more shows this week, who will join the likes of Comet Lucifer in "The grand trash bin of bad series, 2015":

Utawarerumono 2
I have neither time nor patience for this nonsense anymore. 7 episodes in and nothing of note has happened. For some reason this show spends all the time on fanservice and silly female characters whose only characteristics are "kawaii" and "lewd thoughts". I get it, the characters are supposed to be adorable and stuff, can we please continue begin with the story? No? Alright then, time to spend my time with other things.
Also the way the characters are introduced is just terrible and lazy. Everyone bumps into each other all the fucking time and everything is just a big chain of coincidences, without which nothing would ever happen.

K: Return of Kings
Found myself struggling to even start up an episode after it popped up in my notifications.
Everything is supposed to be "stylish" without any substance to it. The fanservice is appalling. The writing is bad, the characters bland, the animations hilarious, the proportions of the characters so far off that I cannot explain how this abomination ever happened with a team of professional artists working on it.
Most of the fighting scenes look like they copy-pasted their characters sloppily onto some 2D background without any interactions with it, added a shitload of filters, some sprinkles and called it a day.

Garo 2
Lame fighting scenes and plain boring to watch. I was hoping for a while that something would grab my attention but alas, everything about this show is utterly uninteresting and uninspired.

The amount of watchable shows this season is shriveling at an alarming rate...
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 05:53:27
November 15 2015 01:22 GMT
#107445
+ Show Spoiler [About the Darkness] +
Did Ougi create the original darkness that went after Shinobu? Most certainly not. Wether or not she created the one that went after Mayoi isn't known but she basicly said so, so at least she's making it look that way.

In fact the later parts don't really add up unless you thought she is the darkness, or more likely, somehow able to control it and specifically send it after mayoi. Like I said, you're supposed to go out of the mayoi arc with the realization that it was Ougi who's somehow after this. With owari pinpointing the situation more precisely and going into what's going on.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 15 2015 04:47 GMT
#107446
On November 15 2015 10:22 Toadesstern wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [About the Darkness] +
Did Ougi create the original darkness that went after Shinobu? Most certainly not. Wether or not she created the one that went after Mayoi isn't known but she basicly said so, so at least she's making it look that way.


Well... + Show Spoiler +
I have a theory that Ougi actually is the Darkness, manifested as an apparition because some punk was trying to save Mayoi and had Kiss-Shot-Acerola-Orion-Heart-Under-Blade in his shadow. So, the cosmic force of balance decided to figure out what was going on. I have nothing but a vague feeling underpinning this, except that Ougi didn't show up until after the Darkness (but showed up pretty quickly thereafter), her design is very dark (although no one in the series seems to comment on her black on black on black eyes), and she seems to be doing things to fix perceived issues (ie, North Shirohebi Shrine is a den of dark energy? Maybe a god would help out.). Further, from the scene with Nadeko that commences the insanity, it seems that her knowledge of events isn't chronological.


I dunno, Ougi is a strange one indeed. Maybe we'll find out sooner or later.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 15 2015 04:58 GMT
#107447
On November 15 2015 13:47 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 10:22 Toadesstern wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [About the Darkness] +
Did Ougi create the original darkness that went after Shinobu? Most certainly not. Wether or not she created the one that went after Mayoi isn't known but she basicly said so, so at least she's making it look that way.


Well... + Show Spoiler +
I have a theory that Ougi actually is the Darkness, manifested as an apparition because some punk was trying to save Mayoi and had Kiss-Shot-Acerola-Orion-Heart-Under-Blade in his shadow. So, the cosmic force of balance decided to figure out what was going on. I have nothing but a vague feeling underpinning this, except that Ougi didn't show up until after the Darkness (but showed up pretty quickly thereafter), her design is very dark (although no one in the series seems to comment on her black on black on black eyes), and she seems to be doing things to fix perceived issues (ie, North Shirohebi Shrine is a den of dark energy? Maybe a god would help out.). Further, from the scene with Nadeko that commences the insanity, it seems that her knowledge of events isn't chronological.


I dunno, Ougi is a strange one indeed. Maybe we'll find out sooner or later.

well I can spoiler if you want me to lol
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 05:17:31
November 15 2015 05:07 GMT
#107448
On November 15 2015 13:58 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 13:47 felisconcolori wrote:
On November 15 2015 10:22 Toadesstern wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [About the Darkness] +
Did Ougi create the original darkness that went after Shinobu? Most certainly not. Wether or not she created the one that went after Mayoi isn't known but she basicly said so, so at least she's making it look that way.


Well... + Show Spoiler +
I have a theory that Ougi actually is the Darkness, manifested as an apparition because some punk was trying to save Mayoi and had Kiss-Shot-Acerola-Orion-Heart-Under-Blade in his shadow. So, the cosmic force of balance decided to figure out what was going on. I have nothing but a vague feeling underpinning this, except that Ougi didn't show up until after the Darkness (but showed up pretty quickly thereafter), her design is very dark (although no one in the series seems to comment on her black on black on black eyes), and she seems to be doing things to fix perceived issues (ie, North Shirohebi Shrine is a den of dark energy? Maybe a god would help out.). Further, from the scene with Nadeko that commences the insanity, it seems that her knowledge of events isn't chronological.


I dunno, Ougi is a strange one indeed. Maybe we'll find out sooner or later.

well I can spoiler if you want me to lol


No.

Also, yay, this arc is telling the story I've been wondering about. I like that the openings seem to be thematically similar for the naming - although the Shinobu Time opening was not as good as this one, imo.

+ Show Spoiler [Owari] +
Okay, have watched this week's episode in full. The samurai - hmm. Obvious references are obvious in more than one place - Tiger's tail indeed. Also, that end card!!
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 06:04:54
November 15 2015 05:53 GMT
#107449
Well Perfect Insider sure is weird. + Show Spoiler +
Figured that the Director helped her kill her parents since they said he was there. He was pretty manipulated by her , a child. Seems weird that he jumped to her giving him a knife referencing their earlier conversation to him taking that as "well obv I need to kill her parents".


Edit: Owari 7: Kanbaru is sooooo goooood.
Never Knows Best.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
November 15 2015 07:50 GMT
#107450
On November 15 2015 14:53 Slaughter wrote:
Well Perfect Insider sure is weird. + Show Spoiler +
Figured that the Director helped her kill her parents since they said he was there. He was pretty manipulated by her , a child. Seems weird that he jumped to her giving him a knife referencing their earlier conversation to him taking that as "well obv I need to kill her parents".


+ Show Spoiler +
Eh, it was a perfectly reasonable conclusion. What he meant in that conversation was quite clear. What she meant at the dinner table was equally clear, despite the difference in meaning.

Also:




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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 08:00:51
November 15 2015 07:59 GMT
#107451
On November 15 2015 16:50 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 14:53 Slaughter wrote:
Well Perfect Insider sure is weird. + Show Spoiler +
Figured that the Director helped her kill her parents since they said he was there. He was pretty manipulated by her , a child. Seems weird that he jumped to her giving him a knife referencing their earlier conversation to him taking that as "well obv I need to kill her parents".


+ Show Spoiler +
Eh, it was a perfectly reasonable conclusion. What he meant in that conversation was quite clear. What she meant at the dinner table was equally clear, despite the difference in meaning.

Also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9vhM6yvdrc




+ Show Spoiler +
? I don't think I got any killing vibes from his "I want to give everything up and go live in the woods away from it all" Its not exactly an uncommon urge in people. Besides how exactly would randomly killing his friends/her parents accomplish anything like that? He just pretty much stayed the same....just now with crimes of murder and pedophilia under his belt. Not like he changed his life style at all so it felt pretty hollow. He basically just did it because she wanted them dead for reasons (which will probably come to light later).
Never Knows Best.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
November 15 2015 08:18 GMT
#107452
On November 15 2015 16:59 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 16:50 Spazer wrote:
On November 15 2015 14:53 Slaughter wrote:
Well Perfect Insider sure is weird. + Show Spoiler +
Figured that the Director helped her kill her parents since they said he was there. He was pretty manipulated by her , a child. Seems weird that he jumped to her giving him a knife referencing their earlier conversation to him taking that as "well obv I need to kill her parents".


+ Show Spoiler +
Eh, it was a perfectly reasonable conclusion. What he meant in that conversation was quite clear. What she meant at the dinner table was equally clear, despite the difference in meaning.

Also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9vhM6yvdrc




+ Show Spoiler +
? I don't think I got any killing vibes from his "I want to give everything up and go live in the woods away from it all" Its not exactly an uncommon urge in people. Besides how exactly would randomly killing his friends/her parents accomplish anything like that? He just pretty much stayed the same....just now with crimes of murder and pedophilia under his belt. Not like he changed his life style at all so it felt pretty hollow. He basically just did it because she wanted them dead for reasons (which will probably come to light later).

+ Show Spoiler +
The director's line in the woods is totally innocuous. Obviously he wasn't planning on killing anybody.

Shiki's line heavily implies that she intends for him to kill her parents. What I'm saying is that it's not a stretch for him to figure this out, considering the context of the gift, her words, and their relationship. I'd say it's a given that Shiki's parents would not approve of her and the director being together.

I think the whole point of that murder was for Shiki to remove obstacles (the parents) while simultaneously pulling the director deeper into the rabbit hole. Hell, he hesitated for long enough that Shiki had to give him a push by committing the first murder. Making him an accomplice "strengthens" their relationship.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 15 2015 08:37 GMT
#107453
On November 15 2015 17:18 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 16:59 Slaughter wrote:
On November 15 2015 16:50 Spazer wrote:
On November 15 2015 14:53 Slaughter wrote:
Well Perfect Insider sure is weird. + Show Spoiler +
Figured that the Director helped her kill her parents since they said he was there. He was pretty manipulated by her , a child. Seems weird that he jumped to her giving him a knife referencing their earlier conversation to him taking that as "well obv I need to kill her parents".


+ Show Spoiler +
Eh, it was a perfectly reasonable conclusion. What he meant in that conversation was quite clear. What she meant at the dinner table was equally clear, despite the difference in meaning.

Also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9vhM6yvdrc




+ Show Spoiler +
? I don't think I got any killing vibes from his "I want to give everything up and go live in the woods away from it all" Its not exactly an uncommon urge in people. Besides how exactly would randomly killing his friends/her parents accomplish anything like that? He just pretty much stayed the same....just now with crimes of murder and pedophilia under his belt. Not like he changed his life style at all so it felt pretty hollow. He basically just did it because she wanted them dead for reasons (which will probably come to light later).

+ Show Spoiler +
The director's line in the woods is totally innocuous. Obviously he wasn't planning on killing anybody.

Shiki's line heavily implies that she intends for him to kill her parents. What I'm saying is that it's not a stretch for him to figure this out, considering the context of the gift, her words, and their relationship. I'd say it's a given that Shiki's parents would not approve of her and the director being together.

I think the whole point of that murder was for Shiki to remove obstacles (the parents) while simultaneously pulling the director deeper into the rabbit hole. Hell, he hesitated for long enough that Shiki had to give him a push by committing the first murder. Making him an accomplice "strengthens" their relationship.

+ Show Spoiler +

Oh I know that part and reasoning behind what SHE did but I meant the director. Dude just went ham for very little reason. As I alluded to earlier he must have been a very weak guy since he is basically her toy and quickly reverted to committing murder.
Never Knows Best.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
November 15 2015 08:47 GMT
#107454
On November 15 2015 00:32 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 13:33 felisconcolori wrote:
On November 14 2015 09:12 XenOmega wrote:
Hanekawa vs Ougi! It's on


I don't think that can become a serious contest. Ougi just lacks a certain... QUALITY... that Hanekawa has in abundance.

Which I think Ougi pointed out. Be interesting to see how the story goes in the next arc.


While she is lacking in a certain area, Ougi isn't just Hanekawa minus said quality

With her apparition in the past shows, I'm tempted to believe that she isn't 'good'.

S2 : + Show Spoiler +
Ougi was 'responsible' for Nadeko turning into snake goddess


Owari : + Show Spoiler +
She 'lured' Araragi into the classroom, she's stalking the MC/following him/knowing everything about him

+ Show Spoiler +
I doubt it's that black and white. While Ougi is certainly the driving force behind a lot of events, it's pretty clear that her purpose is to tie up loose ends.

She knows everything about Araragi, even the things he's forgotten, and is actively forcing him to address all his unfinished business.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 09:20:09
November 15 2015 09:17 GMT
#107455
On November 15 2015 09:27 Nezgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 01:29 Toadesstern wrote:
about s2 + Show Spoiler +
it is also highly implied that Ougi is the one who's behind the "darkness" and killed Mayoi... or send her to hell or whatever you want to call it


Mind elaborating? Because:
+ Show Spoiler [Monogatari Series, Second Season] +
Season 2 pretty clearly shows the origin of the Darkness and what it's purpose is. Unless you want to imply that Ougi was the one who created it and caused it to chase Shinobu,I cannot see how you can come to such a conclusion with the information available in the anime series.


And I decided to drop a few more shows this week, who will join the likes of Comet Lucifer in "The grand trash bin of bad series, 2015":

Utawarerumono 2
I have neither time nor patience for this nonsense anymore. 7 episodes in and nothing of note has happened. For some reason this show spends all the time on fanservice and silly female characters whose only characteristics are "kawaii" and "lewd thoughts". I get it, the characters are supposed to be adorable and stuff, can we please continue begin with the story? No? Alright then, time to spend my time with other things.
Also the way the characters are introduced is just terrible and lazy. Everyone bumps into each other all the fucking time and everything is just a big chain of coincidences, without which nothing would ever happen.

K: Return of Kings
Found myself struggling to even start up an episode after it popped up in my notifications.
Everything is supposed to be "stylish" without any substance to it. The fanservice is appalling. The writing is bad, the characters bland, the animations hilarious, the proportions of the characters so far off that I cannot explain how this abomination ever happened with a team of professional artists working on it.
Most of the fighting scenes look like they copy-pasted their characters sloppily onto some 2D background without any interactions with it, added a shitload of filters, some sprinkles and called it a day.

Garo 2
Lame fighting scenes and plain boring to watch. I was hoping for a while that something would grab my attention but alas, everything about this show is utterly uninteresting and uninspired.

The amount of watchable shows this season is shriveling at an alarming rate...

Haven't watched K since I learned it has a prequel, but you are totally on point on the other two. I really should drop them. I might give Garo some more episodes, but Uta... no, thanks. I really liked the prequel of Uta so it hurts to see this one. A story? Right, like you said there basically is none 7 episodes in. It's all about fanservice and characters acting stupidly since episode 3.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 09:57:50
November 15 2015 09:53 GMT
#107456
Uta has been good enough, though I agree its slow getting to its main plot. It is a 25 ep season though so yea not going to flip out about it.
Never Knows Best.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8639 Posts
November 15 2015 10:45 GMT
#107457
On November 15 2015 18:53 Slaughter wrote:
Uta has been good enough, though I agree its slow getting to its main plot. It is a 25 ep season though so yea not going to flip out about it.


What's the difference between a 12 ep show and a 25 ep show if the 25 ep show spends half of its episodes on fanservice fillers? Right, nothing except it's a giant waste of time. You could watch the same thing within half the time. 25 episodes have the benefit of having more time to develop story and characters better. If they don't do it, what's the point?

Of course, before anyone mentions it, I'm only talking about shows that are aiming for a continuous plot and not about episodic shows.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 15 2015 11:01 GMT
#107458
On November 15 2015 19:45 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 18:53 Slaughter wrote:
Uta has been good enough, though I agree its slow getting to its main plot. It is a 25 ep season though so yea not going to flip out about it.


What's the difference between a 12 ep show and a 25 ep show if the 25 ep show spends half of its episodes on fanservice fillers? Right, nothing except it's a giant waste of time. You could watch the same thing within half the time. 25 episodes have the benefit of having more time to develop story and characters better. If they don't do it, what's the point?

Of course, before anyone mentions it, I'm only talking about shows that are aiming for a continuous plot and not about episodic shows.


There's nothing wrong with spending time with the characters instead of rushing head long into a plot because you need to finish it in 10 eps. Fanservice with girls that have lewd thoughts sound amazing. They all cat girls as well right? I need to watch this shit.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8639 Posts
November 15 2015 11:10 GMT
#107459
On November 15 2015 20:01 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 19:45 Miragee wrote:
On November 15 2015 18:53 Slaughter wrote:
Uta has been good enough, though I agree its slow getting to its main plot. It is a 25 ep season though so yea not going to flip out about it.


What's the difference between a 12 ep show and a 25 ep show if the 25 ep show spends half of its episodes on fanservice fillers? Right, nothing except it's a giant waste of time. You could watch the same thing within half the time. 25 episodes have the benefit of having more time to develop story and characters better. If they don't do it, what's the point?

Of course, before anyone mentions it, I'm only talking about shows that are aiming for a continuous plot and not about episodic shows.


There's nothing wrong with spending time with the characters instead of rushing head long into a plot because you need to finish it in 10 eps. Fanservice with girls that have lewd thoughts sound amazing. They all cat girls as well right? I need to watch this shit.


? I even wrote that they could spend time on developing the characters. But they aren't even doing that. Except that everyone is falling for good-for-nothing MC. That's not what I would call character development. All they are doing now is wasting time and then have to rush the plot to get it done in the remaining episodes.

And yeah, you can make a show that only has lewd fanservice. But they should tag it as hentai then. I won't have a problem then because I won't expect any remotely good character or story writing. And yeah Numy, you would probably enjoy this (the fanservice that is). I mentioned this after the first 1 or 2 episodes.
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Owarimonogatari 7

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So does this ending to this episode coincides with Hanekawa's arc in Monogatari S2? That is why Araragi was so burnt up and used that OP sword on the Tiger. I still can't figure out if this is before or after Mayoi "leaves". That is also why Kanbaru mentioned Hanekawa but all these time skips are messing me up.
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