Anime Discussion Thread - Page 4417

Yuuji's sister?

The great majority of the bad decision making you can write off to lack of nutrition leads to improper thinking/delirious thinking. Plus there's a weird group dynamic involved with the team captain being the way she was, and even the adult that's supposed to take care of them all being the way he was. Panic stricken people do not make wise choices, ever.

You can argue that, if not for the game constantly trying to remind us that Kazuki is a genius who is in full control basically always. The girl had a stash of food and a way to navigate (and she was stashed the food pretty early on). She could have walked out of to find help on day 7 (the initially agreed period of waiting for help) and have been back in time before people started dying. Hell the captain probably would have let her go earlier because she honestly just wanted the source that was undermining her authority gone. Instead she waits until the last possible minute to peace out with Amane. Why? Why did no one try to climb the really tall trees for a better view of the landscape? Why did they not try to build a relatively large fire that would produce a lot of smoke? They were as later discovered relatively close to civilization.

esdeath getting more imba by the ep, lol can she even been beaten? apart from her timefreeze her normal fighting skills just outrank everyone and now with the timefreeze how can that even work, im thinking maybe he takes mines gun and does some super channeling blast to kill her??? or maybe shes so in love with him that she kills herself? unlikey tho cause she was pretty prepared to kill him just then, last way i can think of is if she switchs sides but that wouldnt be kinda shitty seeing as once shes on the nightraid side well gg theres nothing stopping her and theres no villian aparat from the shitty minster who probably dies to a grunt of the army.
Is there a second season announced or something? esdeath seems impossible to beat

Is this some anime original stuff or do the directors know more about the manga then we do?

Well first, the plan she came up with originally that saved Amane (including stashing food) was all made at a point where everyone is still coherent. By day 7 i'm sure things were a little different but I agree, she should have just left then. But it could be argued that her leaving (possibly with Amane) at any point in time would wreck the group instead of saving it like the way you're thinking (without the trouble person the captain can control everybody better, etc.). In a situation like that you can never really know what would have happened if she left with amane though is my argument. Maybe they would have "fallen" quicker into depravity...the injured girls certainly would have died way faster...and maybe Amane and Kazuki's work in the group is what kept them alive as long as they were. Essentially the captain would have led them all to death days if not a full week or 2 faster if Kazuki had left at any time and while her brain told her that there was no way out without somebody/most people/everybody dieing it's possible that deep in her heart she still felt like everybody could be saved...most likely by something she could do but just hadn't thought of yet. I mean kazuki is touted as such a genius that she's "perfect" in everything she does...so maybe she also had a little bit of a god complex and she was still trying to figure out a way she could save everybody, while the original plan of saving at least just Amane was her "provisional" or backup plan.

They also had no way of knowing how close to getting out of the jungle they actually were (but you're right in that somebody could have probably climbed a tree to at least look around to see what they can, but then maybe nobody there was a good climber? not to mention that they also had all just survived a terrible accident after the bus fell off a cliff basically...it's possible none of them had the physical power to climb to the top of those trees at the time). Also, it's always safest to just stay together where you are in that type of situation than to go wandering into the jungle (the jungle having addition difficulties to survival including people getting lost/the group splitting up etc.).

Also iirc they mentioned something about not being able to build a fire b/c they didn't have the tools to make enough fire wood. If you've ever built a fire, you can only get so much out of it with the small branches/twigs that fall, at some point you need to add larger blocks of wood to really build the fire up. The fuel would just burn too quickly for them to make anything substantial enough to be seen. Also, traveling on a path (when they came back to the spot later on) cuts the distance way down, so instead of it being a few hours hike it would have more likely been a few days. And yuuji mentions that it's nearly impossible to stay oriented in a jungle like that where you're constantly curving around trees/brush to the point that you can never walk a straight line.

In the end i think it was possible that many of the girls could have still been alive to be saved by the people amane sent except i think the adult guy really went nuts and ended up just killing them all.

I mean, the story is basically a bunch of girls get trapped in the wilderness and all die off, somehow. There are only so many ways to kill them off if you want to stay realistic, and once you've seen enough of these stories, there's nothing left to wonder about - especially because you know the end result. In some ways, what happened after Amane left was more interesting to me because it had to be something unrealistic for the sake of plot convenience.

It's very different than MC goes on a journey and we know he won't die but we don't know what types of hardships he will encounter. It'd be more akin to if you stuck the MC into a single room with a girl, you know they later get married and have a kid, and no one is allowed to leave or enter the room throughout the story. It may still not be 100% predictable, but it's very constrained storytelling due to how it gets set up and the given circumstances and end result.

In contrast, Meikyuu was essentially a flashback too with a known end result but is far less constrained because the timeframe spans across years and takes place in many different locations. So just because you know where Yuuji ends up doesn't mean you can easily predict all his suffering or the people he met - aside from previously mentioned ones like Kazuki dying or eventually meeting JB and Asako, which is what makes it far more interesting, even if I didn't think it was that great. Amane's flashback doesn't have that kind of freedom in storytelling.