Anime Discussion Thread - Page 4323

I don't think Gilgamesh was trying to kill Saber i think he trying to subdue her or some shit. From i've seen and known he only does lose due to thinking he is massively better than the enemy.

Not a bad episode. Kaori thinks she has competition now lol. Anyone else notice the "I feel like photos cement the passage of time" comment from Yui? Other thing was when Yui held Kaori back when the bus was coming around the corner. She died by falling in the first episode before the rewind but it's not surprising seeing as Yui likely knows that something will happen to Kaori so she's overly cautious.

There was one other thing that caught my eye, can't remember what though but little hints here and there. If the quality was a bit better, it would be even more amazing but it's been good so far. Other point is that Kaori was mentioning her feelings to Sou yet he's still pretty oblivious so death flags though we're on day 9 so not for a while?

He was literally unleashing his most powerful attack, how can you say "he was cocky so he used his most powerful attack"? He lost because he didn't know Avalon existed because that was the 1st fight where she had it. He lost because he didn't know she got her sheath back (or even if it existed). You can say that leading up to the end of the fight he was more or less trying to break her spirit as opposed to kill her and would have played out the fight differently if he was going for the kill from the start, thats fair, but the end of the fight he was very serious about smashing her into the ground.

Its worth noting that while Ea is his most powerful Noble Phantasm, it also has variable output. You have the low-output Enuma Elish that he uses to toy with Shirou thats like a mini-Excalibur blast, you have another Enuma Elish that is more powerful than an Excalibur blast, and you also have the one that created some black hole and literally destroys the world of Alexander's Reality Marble. And Gilgamesh was clearly not using its Anti-World abilities vs Saber, considering that the world wasn't destroyed.

Oooh I didn't know they formally stated different levels of his Ea's attacks, makes sense. Wouldn't the last one kill himself as well? (if he wasn't destroying a reality marble world that is).

IDK if they formally stated it, but its pretty clear by looking at events that happens. The output when he was toying with Shirou was different from the DBZ beam clash with Saber, and different than the World destruction with Alexander. I'm not sure what would happen to Gilgamesh himself, if he used it outside of a Reality Marble. Since its supposed to be the Sword of Genesis or some shit, maybe it would create a new world for him? Its all speculation at this point. Nasu-stuff gets really silly when you start reaching power levels like that. No need to look farther than something like ORT to see how silly things can get.

He has a counter to everyone because of his massive arsenal, ranging from divine weapons to jewelled spoonds and forks if need be. Technically he doesnt even really need to show himself in order to take people out because he can just activate gate of Babylon sitting in a cushy spot. He chooses to make himself vulnerable (archer class doesnt exactly have stellar D, also never goes all out because he considers it beneath him to do so for something as like the Holy Grail

I wouldn't say that he considers the Grail beneath him as much as he already considers it his property that no one else can have. The guy thinks that he is entitled to everything and everyone in the world, everything is his and he is very into people "knowing their place". Your right in that he probably doesn't care as much for the Grail itself, but more so in preventing others in taking what he considers his property.

I didnt say he considers the grail beneath him, I said its beneath him to go all out for it like he gives a shit, because he doesnt believe in competing for something that he already considers as his. As long as ofcourse no one else can have it. But its not like no one else can have his treasures, he doesnt mind lending them to people he considers worthy (i.e people who willingly become his bitches) Its the "rats" he has a problem with.

Either way his pride exceeds his will or desire to protect something he considers "his" just because it can be classified as treasure.

What the.. so we are back in alfheim..and they are pushing the series with a dumb fast pace. Sinon is already fit to fight with all those high levels, the whole world will possibly end because cardinal system is the "same" as in SOA with all the rights it needs to follow Ragnarok storyline plus some NPCs that mutated into AIs and kirito and his fan-service harem are here to safe the day with, AGAIN, a "special move" he finds out on his own..
Seriously...

Gilgamesh is so strong in comparison to the others because he's the only hero that was more or less able to use the full extent of his abilities. The way a full powered EA would work is as an anti world conceptual weapon that attacks everything in sight that is deemed "an enemy" with output that is around or slightly higher than that of Excalibur. Therefore if he saw the "world" or "himself" as an enemy it would have the potential to swallow himself up I suppose.

However that would actually still lose to a theoretical version of Arthuria that is equipped with Avalon and capable of using her abilities to the fullest. Wherein with her magical core activated she is more or less completely indestructible in of herself and can generate infinite prana to spam Excalibur, against which Gil has no real counter for.