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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
July 06 2010 01:51 GMT
#6941
A parody against something like moe eventually turns into moe itself, that the kind of thing the concept is.

When has the whole thing of チャラ作り had a purpose? Both when I read it and when I watched it I just chuckled and moved right along. You give a nekomimi character her moments, after all, Hanekawa doesn't have many of that
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 06 2010 02:06 GMT
#6942
On July 06 2010 10:51 Ecael wrote:
A parody against something like moe eventually turns into moe itself, that the kind of thing the concept is.

When has the whole thing of チャラ作り had a purpose? Both when I read it and when I watched it I just chuckled and moved right along. You give a nekomimi character her moments, after all, Hanekawa doesn't have many of that

That's why they should use different kinds of characters. I don't think a grandpa with ears attached to his head and saying that would turn into it

チャラ作り? I didn't watch the anime or read the manga of that thing. I don't even know where it's from
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 06 2010 02:35 GMT
#6943
Honestly, that rumor of a new FMP was floating around before that image, never got around to see if anything came out of it.
Get it by your hands...
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 03:07:16
July 06 2010 02:56 GMT
#6944
On July 06 2010 11:06 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 10:51 Ecael wrote:
A parody against something like moe eventually turns into moe itself, that the kind of thing the concept is.

When has the whole thing of チャラ作り had a purpose? Both when I read it and when I watched it I just chuckled and moved right along. You give a nekomimi character her moments, after all, Hanekawa doesn't have many of that

That's why they should use different kinds of characters. I don't think a grandpa with ears attached to his head and saying that would turn into it

チャラ作り? I didn't watch the anime or read the manga of that thing. I don't even know where it's from

That also would just be plain disgusting to watch, we do see things of that kind, but I think that's overdoing it. No reason alienating a major audience like that.

That's just referring to the whole process of making a character, setting up their personalities and favorite lines and all.

Mago got a bunch of things changed, they look really determined to fit it into 26ep.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 06 2010 03:07 GMT
#6945
On July 06 2010 06:58 Lucumo wrote:
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On July 06 2010 06:13 Sentenal wrote:
You forced me to dig through 4 pages to find your definition. "no moe, no shounen and no shoujo" Code Geass still had its share of that stuff, though. And later on, you said you wouldn't touch Ga Rei Zero, when it is a much more quality show than Geass.

Yeah, that's that the definition, more like a result. I said it like this:

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On July 05 2010 23:00 Lucumo wrote:
That's why it's fine that the Code Geass characters are simply mature and not mature mature. But to find the latter....good luck. Such characters are way more uncommon.
btw: Mature characters can think and act according to different situations. They say and do the right things. Dumb characters can't think by themselves and they act according to the result(which is retarded) and if you really pay attention, you can notice it.

/edit: And don't forget the other kind of dumb characters...those are simply dumb, nothing behind it(Ragnarok the Animation is good example for that -.-).

One example regarding the "act according to the result": Some moe characters say something like "ugyuu~" or "nya~", which is just retarded. The creators make them say that, so that people think that they are cute or whatever. It's just one word, but that's the most obvious example. The other ones are sentences or complete dialogues.
Hm, maybe you could say it like that: The story makes the characters<--->the characters make the story. I don't know yet whether that fits my thinking, but I like it. The latter applies to moe anime.

And btw: What did Code Geass have? I didn't see any shoujo and moe...and I can't really remember shounen aspects either. Some examples would be useful.

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On July 06 2010 06:16 PH wrote:
I have to agree with Shauni, as much as that annoys me. "Quality" doesnt work in the way you're trying to use it. In addition, paying any heed to averaged ratings on sites like MAL or ANN or whatever is a really bad idea -_-.

If you like "mature" anime with "mature" characters, whatever that means, then cool. That's not a signal of their quality. That's what you like in your anime.

In any case, I considered the characters in Code Geass to be horribly retarded most of the time, and pretty disconnected from any semblance of "maturity" I could imagine...

Quality works for different people in a different way. I don't think there is a universal truth regarding that matter. I know, it's pretty much just the overall consensus.

Since the definition of the word quality is different, why not? And hm, if you think otherwise, please give me the clear definition of it(in regard to anime/manga). It would be fine if we talked about anything physical, but this is different.

What makes you think that? Lelouch sister was kinda meh at the end, but other than that...

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On July 06 2010 06:20 Tenryu wrote:
Hmm.. i personally enjoyed Code Geass alot but i would have to agree that its not what i would describe as Mature. Of course it has certain aspects to it that would appeal to older audiences, but overall it doesnt give me that "mature" feeling. Now animes like Kemonozume and Blue Gender are what i would classify a watch for older and mature audiences -_-. You can completely feel the difference in the atmosphere the two give out compared to Code Geass.

Code Geass was still badass and fun watch for me. Anyways im going to wait for alot more eps of Highschool of the Dead to come out before watching it. I hate the feeling of waiting for new episodes .

That's why I made a distinction. *sigh* Now it kind of bothers me, because it's "mature" and "mature mature". I should have used a different word. "Realistic" kind of fits the mature I'm talking about because, like "mature", it's not variable. I just shouldn't have used that word because your "mature" is my "mature mature". So much for the confusion, all the thanks to me

I think I will refer to it with "realistic" from now on, even though it's not THAT adequate and mature mature becomes mature, just as it should be.
The funny thing is: If I would read it as a bystander, I would think that all the over-complicated stuff is retarded. In the end, it doesn't really help you understand it which was originally the purpose - why I did all of this.

This taken directly off of dictionary.com, and is probably the meaning of the word "quality" that most utilize in this context and any context related:

"character with respect to fineness, or grade of excellence"

The quality of an anime, manga, comic book, graphic novel, book, movie, TV show, youtube video or whatever else you want is all the same no matter where you go. It refers to the show's overall production and execution. When a film is well made, you say it is of greater quality than if it were poorly made. That is quality.

You're just looking at a characteristic of the show that you liked from it, which you call "mature", which I also think is inaccurate. I think considering it "realistic" is even more off the mark. What is realistic about Code Geass of all shows? Like...really? There's more realism in some Gundam series. I can also pull pretty hard scifi series like Planetes and GitS. I can go on, but I'll stop there.
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Kaialynn
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States242 Posts
July 06 2010 03:13 GMT
#6946
Don't mean to intrude on everyone's discussion, but I finally got a chance to sit down and watch 5 Centimeters Per Second. I really liked it and shed a few tears at the end. Great movie, would watch again. I loved the distance theme that kept being brought up throughout the whole movie.
R u for rela?
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 04:21:04
July 06 2010 03:14 GMT
#6947
On July 06 2010 09:36 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
TT sorry guys
now to stab the guy who posted it on Twitter brb

See, I knew it was fake beforehand because it was on /a/ like a week ago. Not bad for a troll, huh?
Speaking of trolls, this was pretty funny.

On July 06 2010 09:49 Tenryu wrote:
I heard very good things about Franken Fran, have yet to read it though. As well with Yotsubato. Been planning to read it for a while now but havent lol.

Franken Fran is... interesting... It's like nightmare fuel defined.
+ Show Spoiler +
It's pretty awesome how the cold-blooded killer has more morals than the doctor who saves everyone.


On July 06 2010 11:35 Judicator wrote:
Honestly, that rumor of a new FMP was floating around before that image, never got around to see if anything came out of it.

I thought the rumor was that the new anime would come about after the books finished, which they aren't yet. But we're getting there. :D
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 03:23:13
July 06 2010 03:19 GMT
#6948
Lucumo, basically it's like this, you really don't know what you like. You have an idea, but you can't absolutely say what it is. We realize that English isn't your strong point, but your reasoning exhibits just as much namely because you keep talking about ambiguity in the contested terms but never really convey your definition of the terms.

Like others have said, you like some specific presentation of a certain concept. Saying CG as realistic is a big stretch, saying it's mature is also a fair stretch, saying it's serious is probably more appropriate even though that's debatable as well. Personally I refer to CG as a trashy thriller, there really isn't anything deep but the plot develops well enough that you want to watch Lelouch to see how his plans turn out. (Think Crichton or Clancy in terms of books)

I wanted to push you on this point before, but I backed off since you had trouble with word contrived.

FMP-Sigma I am guessing has another 4 months left unless they jump straight into rescue after the next chapter.
Get it by your hands...
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 03:57:46
July 06 2010 03:57 GMT
#6949
On July 06 2010 11:56 Ecael wrote:
Mago got a bunch of things changed, they look really determined to fit it into 26ep.


Well, Mago did start out pretty slow. Besides, it's all perfectly justified to rush through the portions where Kanna was relevant, even more so that Hirano Aya is voicing her. > : )

I was surprised to see so much Gyuki this early, though. I suppose they had to set the tone right from the start.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 06 2010 03:59 GMT
#6950
Just finished the first ep of occult gakuin. Felt a bit weird.

not sure 100% of what was going on in it, but I suppose they'll clear that up soon. Hopefully Legend of Legendary Heroes gets subbed soon o_O
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 04:05:38
July 06 2010 04:05 GMT
#6951
On July 06 2010 12:57 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 11:56 Ecael wrote:
Mago got a bunch of things changed, they look really determined to fit it into 26ep.


Well, Mago did start out pretty slow. Besides, it's all perfectly justified to rush through the portions where Kanna was relevant, even more so that Hirano Aya is voicing her. > : )

I was surprised to see so much Gyuki this early, though. I suppose they had to set the tone right from the start.

Yuki onna has nothing on Kana-chan, only Yura can compete

And yeah, they just want to rush past the stupid stuff and get us right to Hagoromo Kitsune, perfectly fine with that.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8032 Posts
July 06 2010 04:07 GMT
#6952
On July 06 2010 12:59 FragKrag wrote:
Hopefully Legend of Legendary Heroes gets subbed soon o_O

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=141670
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bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 06 2010 04:10 GMT
#6953
On July 06 2010 13:05 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 12:57 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 11:56 Ecael wrote:
Mago got a bunch of things changed, they look really determined to fit it into 26ep.


Well, Mago did start out pretty slow. Besides, it's all perfectly justified to rush through the portions where Kanna was relevant, even more so that Hirano Aya is voicing her. > : )

I was surprised to see so much Gyuki this early, though. I suppose they had to set the tone right from the start.

Yuki onna has nothing on Kana-chan, only Yura can compete

And yeah, they just want to rush past the stupid stuff and get us right to Hagoromo Kitsune, perfectly fine with that.


Unlike last time *cough*Cielisthebest*cough*, I actually have numbers to back me up on this. So ha! The latest chapters are also rocking with me on the same ship.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 04:21:56
July 06 2010 04:17 GMT
#6954
On July 06 2010 13:10 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 13:05 Ecael wrote:
On July 06 2010 12:57 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 11:56 Ecael wrote:
Mago got a bunch of things changed, they look really determined to fit it into 26ep.


Well, Mago did start out pretty slow. Besides, it's all perfectly justified to rush through the portions where Kanna was relevant, even more so that Hirano Aya is voicing her. > : )

I was surprised to see so much Gyuki this early, though. I suppose they had to set the tone right from the start.

Yuki onna has nothing on Kana-chan, only Yura can compete

And yeah, they just want to rush past the stupid stuff and get us right to Hagoromo Kitsune, perfectly fine with that.


Unlike last time *cough*Cielisthebest*cough*, I actually have numbers to back me up on this. So ha! The latest chapters are also rocking with me on the same ship.

Unfortunately, though we need to keep in mind that same poll also had Youhime and Gramps at insanely high levels because they just had an arc involving the two. I am sure if another poll is conducted now Yura would easily be more popular than Yuki onna. I am just waiting for Kana to become relevant again, much like how I insist Cleo will have a function in Break Blade.

Speak of type-moon and polls, I found some Tsukihime material book the other day and read through it, it also had a collection of the official popularity polls. It was interesting to note how as time went on, Kohaku got more votes. Too bad I don't think we have yet to see any t-m merchandise where the main heroine was anything below #1 in a poll involving only one franchise (one of the polls had Tsukihime + Rakkyo characters with Ryougi at 5).
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 06 2010 04:23 GMT
#6955
On July 06 2010 13:07 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 12:59 FragKrag wrote:
Hopefully Legend of Legendary Heroes gets subbed soon o_O

http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=141670

Apparently that sub is really bad or something. I'll wait till (hopefully) one of the bigger groups picks it up.


High School of the Dead's first episode was very good. Looks like it might be my main show of the season.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 06 2010 04:25 GMT
#6956
On July 06 2010 13:17 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 13:10 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:05 Ecael wrote:
On July 06 2010 12:57 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 11:56 Ecael wrote:
Mago got a bunch of things changed, they look really determined to fit it into 26ep.


Well, Mago did start out pretty slow. Besides, it's all perfectly justified to rush through the portions where Kanna was relevant, even more so that Hirano Aya is voicing her. > : )

I was surprised to see so much Gyuki this early, though. I suppose they had to set the tone right from the start.

Yuki onna has nothing on Kana-chan, only Yura can compete

And yeah, they just want to rush past the stupid stuff and get us right to Hagoromo Kitsune, perfectly fine with that.


Unlike last time *cough*Cielisthebest*cough*, I actually have numbers to back me up on this. So ha! The latest chapters are also rocking with me on the same ship.

Unfortunately, though we need to keep in mind that same poll also had Youhime and Gramps at insanely high levels because they just had an arc involving the two. I am sure if another poll is conducted now Yura would easily be more popular than Yuki onna. I am just waiting for Kana to become relevant again, much like how I insist Cleo will have a function in Break Blade.


Unless the translation has been falling behind the actual thing, it has been all Yuki Onna recently. I really don't think Kana is gonna get relevant again, since we've pretty much left the normal human world and entered into youkai battles.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
July 06 2010 04:49 GMT
#6957
On July 06 2010 13:25 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 13:17 Ecael wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:10 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:05 Ecael wrote:
On July 06 2010 12:57 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 11:56 Ecael wrote:
Mago got a bunch of things changed, they look really determined to fit it into 26ep.


Well, Mago did start out pretty slow. Besides, it's all perfectly justified to rush through the portions where Kanna was relevant, even more so that Hirano Aya is voicing her. > : )

I was surprised to see so much Gyuki this early, though. I suppose they had to set the tone right from the start.

Yuki onna has nothing on Kana-chan, only Yura can compete

And yeah, they just want to rush past the stupid stuff and get us right to Hagoromo Kitsune, perfectly fine with that.


Unlike last time *cough*Cielisthebest*cough*, I actually have numbers to back me up on this. So ha! The latest chapters are also rocking with me on the same ship.

Unfortunately, though we need to keep in mind that same poll also had Youhime and Gramps at insanely high levels because they just had an arc involving the two. I am sure if another poll is conducted now Yura would easily be more popular than Yuki onna. I am just waiting for Kana to become relevant again, much like how I insist Cleo will have a function in Break Blade.


Unless the translation has been falling behind the actual thing, it has been all Yuki Onna recently. I really don't think Kana is gonna get relevant again, since we've pretty much left the normal human world and entered into youkai battles.

As far as I know, not that behind, and it isn't like Yuki Onna is doing anything as Rikuo is the one doing all the work. Well, guess I just find it odd that we had a lot of things involving Kana and Rikuo in night form, feels like the mangaka will try to use her yet.

Also watching densetsu no yuusha no densetsu, this is pretty amusing, I think I'll dig the books up to read.
RedTaisha
Profile Joined June 2010
United States51 Posts
July 06 2010 04:53 GMT
#6958
Just saw first ep. of HS of the Dead, hory shet that was good but then again I'm a zombie nut and a big fan of Romero, remakes included. I especially dug the 28 Days Later-inspired music that came up late in the ep. I've got a lot of hope for this one, hopefully it won't let me down like Angel Beats did (though it was decent) =/.
One in a million is next Tuesday.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 04:59:18
July 06 2010 04:58 GMT
#6959
On July 06 2010 13:49 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 13:25 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:17 Ecael wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:10 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:05 Ecael wrote:
On July 06 2010 12:57 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 11:56 Ecael wrote:
Mago got a bunch of things changed, they look really determined to fit it into 26ep.


Well, Mago did start out pretty slow. Besides, it's all perfectly justified to rush through the portions where Kanna was relevant, even more so that Hirano Aya is voicing her. > : )

I was surprised to see so much Gyuki this early, though. I suppose they had to set the tone right from the start.

Yuki onna has nothing on Kana-chan, only Yura can compete

And yeah, they just want to rush past the stupid stuff and get us right to Hagoromo Kitsune, perfectly fine with that.


Unlike last time *cough*Cielisthebest*cough*, I actually have numbers to back me up on this. So ha! The latest chapters are also rocking with me on the same ship.

Unfortunately, though we need to keep in mind that same poll also had Youhime and Gramps at insanely high levels because they just had an arc involving the two. I am sure if another poll is conducted now Yura would easily be more popular than Yuki onna. I am just waiting for Kana to become relevant again, much like how I insist Cleo will have a function in Break Blade.


Unless the translation has been falling behind the actual thing, it has been all Yuki Onna recently. I really don't think Kana is gonna get relevant again, since we've pretty much left the normal human world and entered into youkai battles.

As far as I know, not that behind, and it isn't like Yuki Onna is doing anything as Rikuo is the one doing all the work. Well, guess I just find it odd that we had a lot of things involving Kana and Rikuo in night form, feels like the mangaka will try to use her yet.

Also watching densetsu no yuusha no densetsu, this is pretty amusing, I think I'll dig the books up to read.


Yeah, but that Kana was doing all that when Mago's popularity was so terrible that WSJ might just drop it. Now that she's not doing anything, it shot up and got an adaptation before many of the other titles.

Mago underwent an identity change and got more popular. Kana was a casualty of such change. While I can fathom that the author original intended Kana to be the love interest, I don't really think that's the case anymore.


Also watching densetsu no yuusha no densetsu, this is pretty amusing, I think I'll dig the books up to read.


I heard it's pretty darn long. good luck =)
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
July 06 2010 05:30 GMT
#6960
On July 06 2010 13:58 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2010 13:49 Ecael wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:25 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:17 Ecael wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:10 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 13:05 Ecael wrote:
On July 06 2010 12:57 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 06 2010 11:56 Ecael wrote:
Mago got a bunch of things changed, they look really determined to fit it into 26ep.


Well, Mago did start out pretty slow. Besides, it's all perfectly justified to rush through the portions where Kanna was relevant, even more so that Hirano Aya is voicing her. > : )

I was surprised to see so much Gyuki this early, though. I suppose they had to set the tone right from the start.

Yuki onna has nothing on Kana-chan, only Yura can compete

And yeah, they just want to rush past the stupid stuff and get us right to Hagoromo Kitsune, perfectly fine with that.


Unlike last time *cough*Cielisthebest*cough*, I actually have numbers to back me up on this. So ha! The latest chapters are also rocking with me on the same ship.

Unfortunately, though we need to keep in mind that same poll also had Youhime and Gramps at insanely high levels because they just had an arc involving the two. I am sure if another poll is conducted now Yura would easily be more popular than Yuki onna. I am just waiting for Kana to become relevant again, much like how I insist Cleo will have a function in Break Blade.


Unless the translation has been falling behind the actual thing, it has been all Yuki Onna recently. I really don't think Kana is gonna get relevant again, since we've pretty much left the normal human world and entered into youkai battles.

As far as I know, not that behind, and it isn't like Yuki Onna is doing anything as Rikuo is the one doing all the work. Well, guess I just find it odd that we had a lot of things involving Kana and Rikuo in night form, feels like the mangaka will try to use her yet.

Also watching densetsu no yuusha no densetsu, this is pretty amusing, I think I'll dig the books up to read.


Yeah, but that Kana was doing all that when Mago's popularity was so terrible that WSJ might just drop it. Now that she's not doing anything, it shot up and got an adaptation before many of the other titles.

Mago underwent an identity change and got more popular. Kana was a casualty of such change. While I can fathom that the author original intended Kana to be the love interest, I don't really think that's the case anymore.

Show nested quote +

Also watching densetsu no yuusha no densetsu, this is pretty amusing, I think I'll dig the books up to read.


I heard it's pretty darn long. good luck =)

11 vols and happily downloading, shouldn't take too long if I am not busy.

I was looking at it from the other perspective, now that Mago has an interesting arc going, it has plenty of chances to use Kana. The only fortunate thing for me is that Yura is living up to the Keikain name
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