• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:59
CEST 10:59
KST 17:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun11[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists21[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) SC2 INu's Battles#15 <BO.9 2Matches> WardiTV Spring Cup RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event SEL Masters #6 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
Pros React To: Leta vs Tulbo (ASL S21, Ro.8) ASL21 General Discussion [TOOL] Starcraft Chat Translator JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review Missed out on ASL tickets - what are my options?
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2114 users

Anime Discussion Thread - Page 2770

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2768 2769 2770 2771 2772 6485 Next
If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

For currently airing anime, please see Anichart.net
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 21:34:54
April 11 2013 21:30 GMT
#55381
There is the question of what is mainstream according to demographics also. I have to admit I started anime with Bleach and Naruto when I was 15, because that was the only stuff broadcasted on TV in France back then, but I can't bear to watch 20 minutes a week of those anymore. I still follow the manga because at least that's dealt with quickly and I have to know how it ends (assuming it does, ololol), but now I wouldn't really consider shounen "mainstream" for me :D

"mainstream" doesn't really matter to me though. It's not that easy to define anyway, it's really context-dependent.
Hey Sean.
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom196 Posts
April 11 2013 21:35 GMT
#55382
Let's say Bleach and Naruto are mainmainstream

Haruhi and Lucky Star are below that

And then it's most other things

Trying to think of a better way to put it.. I guess if you were to go to your average university anime club, usually whatever they'll air is mainstream. So anything like FMA, Cowboy Bebop, Death Note I'd call mainstream, even if they're not shown on TV (I don't know the American channel that airs anime sorry) most people who've seen any small amount of anime will have seen a few of them.

On the other hand, things like Madoka and Nanoha I wouldn't call mainstream because they're only popular amongst people who watch quite a lot of anime, even if those two shows are probably known by everyone in this thread.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
April 11 2013 21:35 GMT
#55383
On April 12 2013 06:20 Hey Sean. wrote:
I think really you just have to consider what mainstream is and why it is mainstream more than anything. Generally, the more action/fighting an anime is the more mainstream it'll get. All the dragon balls, Naruto, Bleach, etc. Usually they're discussed so much in other places people that don't like them will break off and talk about other anime elsewhere. With that said, mainstream stuff like Haruhi and K-On and <insert kyoani animation here> will usually get talked about on the sites that generally don't talk about the Bleach type stuff just because if you try to talk about anything not like the shows mentioned above people come and ruin the thread. Plus I like arguing over best girl more than who would win in a fight.

I don't really like using MAL as a judge though, since it's one of those places where people think a 7 is average. I like using it to check what something is about though.

Which reminds me, has anyone seen Papa no Iukoto wo Kikinasai? What's were your thoughts on it?

Edit: Going to have to disagree with you Kaal. I think most people are over that now, especially seeing as she does still get work in anime. If it was as bad as you say then places simply wouldn't give her work. Places do try to line up when they show an animation to something else coming out at the same time. Like I'm sure the Hidamari Sketch OVA is going to air roughly around the release of a new manga book or something else. It's just the way places do it.


But she's NOT getting work. She's pretty much stopped being a voice actor, and gone to do some random Japanese variety shows instead. Her only currently airing show is Hunter x Hunter, and she's just a support character. Fairy Tail is over, and she's not voicing anything this season.

While the Western audience may have forgotten/no longer care about what she does, the Japanese audience probably still do, and they're the ones that buy/support the industry.

Also, PapaKiki was a dumb harem show. The whole "raise 3 kids thing (one of which just wants to be all over him)" was way too unrealistic. Go read/watch Usagi Drop if you want something like that.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 21:40:25
April 11 2013 21:37 GMT
#55384
On April 12 2013 06:30 ZenithM wrote:
There is the question of what is mainstream according to demographics also. I have to admit I started anime with Bleach and Naruto when I was 15, because that was the only stuff broadcasted on TV in France back then, but I can't bear to watch 20 minutes a week of those anymore. I still follow the manga because at least that's dealt with quickly and I have to know how it ends (assuming it does, ololol), but now I wouldn't really consider shounen "mainstream" for me :D


Shounen is mainstream. One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Detective Conan, Toriko, Fairy Tail, UC Gundam, Pokemon these things are main stream. Things just outside the mainstream are Death Note, Gundam that's not UC, Digimon, Sailor Moon and such. Everything else is stuff that nobody but a basement dwelling otaku would have any idea what you're talking about.


Let's say Bleach and Naruto are mainmainstream

Haruhi and Lucky Star are below that

And then it's most other things

Trying to think of a better way to put it.. I guess if you were to go to your average university anime club, usually whatever they'll air is mainstream. So anything like FMA, Cowboy Bebop, Death Note I'd call mainstream, even if they're not shown on TV (I don't know the American channel that airs anime sorry) most people who've seen any small amount of anime will have seen a few of them.

On the other hand, things like Madoka and Nanoha I wouldn't call mainstream because they're only popular amongst people who watch quite a lot of anime, even if those two shows are probably known by everyone in this thread.


Lucky star


Are you serious? Ooook. Well you're completely wrong first of all. It's an anime that's about other anime with a bunch of hentai references combined with moe artstyle. And it aired at 2am.

Madoka, Nanoha, FMA, those are also 2amish shows. Magical girl shows that are made for men tend to be 1-3AM shows.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 21:45:04
April 11 2013 21:40 GMT
#55385
On April 12 2013 06:29 Kaal wrote:
Also Hirano hasn't had a role in a new anime since KnT S2, which is a long ass time for a VA.


Aya Hirano done a bunch roles, just not big roles (like I said earlier, the radio operator in GuP and stuff like that).

On April 12 2013 06:20 Hey Sean. wrote:
I don't really like using MAL as a judge though, since it's one of those places where people think a 7 is average. I like using it to check what something is about though.


While 7 is not average, it is in fact pretty close to the average of anime you actually watch. Unless you dedicate yourself to watch as many bad shows as good shows (me and kaal have watched 1000+ shows here and even we don't come close).

On April 12 2013 06:37 Kaal wrote:
Shounen is mainstream. One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Detective Conan, Toriko, Fairy Tail, UC Gundam, Pokemon these things are main stream. Things just outside the mainstream are Death Note, Gundam that's not UC, Digimon, Sailor Moon and such. Everything else is stuff that nobody but a basement dwelling otaku would have any idea what you're talking about.


Pretty sure Sailor Moon aired prime time
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
April 11 2013 21:45 GMT
#55386
All I know is I used to argue a lot with Aya Hirano fans about whether she was a better singer than Nana or not. Now they're nowhere to be seen. Speaking of Nana,


zzzz need to wait a month for Nana solo version.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
April 11 2013 21:46 GMT
#55387
I'm pretty big Hirano Aya fan, but I think her singing is pure crap. I loved most of her roles though.

Kind of the same way with Minorin but she is a much better singer than Aya (and probably worse VA).
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Hey Sean.
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom196 Posts
April 11 2013 21:46 GMT
#55388
Ragz is getting what I meant to say about her getting work. She IS getting work, it's just not main parts. That's not to say this is because studios hate her and don't want her to get any work.

I guess, about the rating thing, that's probably only because people do tend to finish the things they like. It's not like amazon or something where people WILL rate things badly after using it. I just think it's a bit flawed is all, although it is good to find out what an anime is about.

And sailor moon is definitely mainstream. I'm sure it was dubbed and shown on UK television at one point but I might be wrong. I just know lots of people who've seen at least some sailor moon but no other shows.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 21:49:46
April 11 2013 21:47 GMT
#55389
On April 12 2013 06:40 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 06:29 Kaal wrote:
Also Hirano hasn't had a role in a new anime since KnT S2, which is a long ass time for a VA.


Aya Hirano done a bunch roles, just not big roles (like I said earlier, the radio operator in GuP and stuff like that).

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 06:20 Hey Sean. wrote:
I don't really like using MAL as a judge though, since it's one of those places where people think a 7 is average. I like using it to check what something is about though.


While 7 is not average, it is in fact pretty close to the average of anime you actually watch. Unless you dedicate yourself to watch as many bad shows as good shows (me and kaal have watched 1000+ shows here and even we don't come close).

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 06:37 Kaal wrote:
Shounen is mainstream. One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Detective Conan, Toriko, Fairy Tail, UC Gundam, Pokemon these things are main stream. Things just outside the mainstream are Death Note, Gundam that's not UC, Digimon, Sailor Moon and such. Everything else is stuff that nobody but a basement dwelling otaku would have any idea what you're talking about.


Pretty sure Sailor Moon aired prime time


The first couple did, then it lost it's timeslot I think. We'd have to ask aers. for sure the remake will have the prime time slot.


All of Sailor Moon is not just the original series. It's like Gundam, everyone knows the original series but the other series they'd be like wut?

Ragz is getting what I meant to say about her getting work. She IS getting work, it's just not main parts. That's not to say this is because studios hate her and don't want her to get any work.


No, she's got work from shows that have been airing for the past several years, otherwise she has gotten no work. It's not that the studios hate her, she's a good voice actor. She's just terrible press so they can't cast her.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
April 11 2013 21:48 GMT
#55390
Cool duet.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 21:52:52
April 11 2013 21:51 GMT
#55391
I guess TM Revolution and Nana do work very well together

Though best duet is still:

+ Show Spoiler +


On April 12 2013 06:47 Kaal wrote:
No, she's got work from shows that have been airing for the past several years, otherwise she has gotten no work. It's not that the studios hate her, she's a good voice actor. She's just terrible press so they can't cast her.


How is GnP been airing for several years O.o
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
April 11 2013 21:55 GMT
#55392
The original Sailor Moon anime was quite well-known in USA. It was aired dubbed on Cartoon Network if I recall. That was quite long ago, so I doubt many (young) people know much about it.
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2556 Posts
April 11 2013 21:57 GMT
#55393
On April 12 2013 06:55 Blargh wrote:
The original Sailor Moon anime was quite well-known in USA. It was aired dubbed on Cartoon Network if I recall. That was quite long ago, so I doubt many (young) people know much about it.


Yes the original is popular. But there are 7? different sailor moon series, and many people would have no idea other than the first one, which why I said it was kind of like gundam. Many people would recognize UC/SEED but if you showed them gundam X they'd be like oh it's gundam but...wait whats this?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 11 2013 21:58 GMT
#55394
On April 12 2013 06:55 Blargh wrote:
The original Sailor Moon anime was quite well-known in USA. It was aired dubbed on Cartoon Network if I recall. That was quite long ago, so I doubt many (young) people know much about it.

Hell it even aired dubbed in France. I did catch some eps, but I don't remember much :D
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
April 11 2013 22:01 GMT
#55395
On April 12 2013 06:58 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 06:55 Blargh wrote:
The original Sailor Moon anime was quite well-known in USA. It was aired dubbed on Cartoon Network if I recall. That was quite long ago, so I doubt many (young) people know much about it.

Hell it even aired dubbed in France. I did catch some eps, but I don't remember much :D


Dubbed into Swedish too. I recall watching some of it but I honestly barely remember anything.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
April 11 2013 22:02 GMT
#55396
It's frigging dubbed everywhere, which in turn result in Togashi being a lazy bum.

So yes. we get half arsed HxH for all these years all because Sailor Moon!
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Hey Sean.
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom196 Posts
April 11 2013 22:04 GMT
#55397
On April 12 2013 06:55 Blargh wrote:
The original Sailor Moon anime was quite well-known in USA. It was aired dubbed on Cartoon Network if I recall. That was quite long ago, so I doubt many (young) people know much about it.

Are you telling me I'm getting old at 20? Please be more gentle ;;

I thought it was dubbed, so guess I was right with that one. I think the spinoffs not being as well known is a given though really, that's just how things are. You could say the Gundam/Sailor Moon franchises are mainstream, but the spinoffs less so. I don't think it really matters in the end though, mainstream doesn't automatically mean bad anyway, it's just a lot of people happen to dislike Bleach/Naruto etc and like to rile themselves up on the internet.

I'm alright with it until someone shows up to school/uni in an orange jumpsuit with a headband on anyway.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 22:04:57
April 11 2013 22:04 GMT
#55398
I remember watching Versailles no Bara (Lady Oscar in French) way before I started "watching anime". It's probably not the kind of stuff I would watch now (I tried recently to rewatch an ep "just to see" and I was like "Wtf is wrong with their eyes?"), but I recall finding it pretty interesting :D

Has anyone else seen that?
I guess, because to my surprise it has a very good mark on MAL, lawl.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 22:07:45
April 11 2013 22:06 GMT
#55399
Versailles no Bara is very popular (in that it's parodied alot) because it's one of the earliest shoujou genre.

I've seen it, feels it's alright but not something I'd recommend.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 11 2013 22:08 GMT
#55400
And it probably made a lot of sense to air that in France.
It felt "relevant" :D
Prev 1 2768 2769 2770 2771 2772 6485 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech140
Nina 63
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 800
Mind 752
firebathero 589
Hm[arnc] 485
Leta 270
actioN 187
Killer 156
Sharp 94
Hyun 62
yabsab 45
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 40
Bale 34
NotJumperer 30
Nal_rA 23
Terrorterran 11
ZergMaN 8
Sacsri 5
zelot 4
Stork 0
Dota 2
resolut1ontv 1100
monkeys_forever457
NeuroSwarm119
XcaliburYe13
League of Legends
JimRising 566
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1643
Stewie2K1053
Other Games
summit1g5968
WinterStarcraft579
ceh9518
Happy443
Sick252
crisheroes148
Livibee69
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick516
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream115
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos912
• Stunt849
• TFBlade744
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1m
CranKy Ducklings5
Escore
1h 1m
INu's Battles
2h 1m
Classic vs ByuN
SHIN vs ByuN
OSC
4h 1m
Big Brain Bouts
7h 1m
Replay Cast
15h 1m
Replay Cast
1d
RSL Revival
1d 1h
Classic vs GgMaChine
Rogue vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
1d 2h
IPSL
1d 7h
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
[ Show More ]
BSL
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 15h
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs TriGGeR
NightMare vs Solar
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
IPSL
2 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Patches Events
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Flash
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
GSL
5 days
Classic vs Cure
Maru vs Rogue
GSL
6 days
SHIN vs Zoun
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-29
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.