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On June 19 2012 06:16 tonight wrote: So, I finished the first route in G-Senjou no Maou and simply put. I already don't care for it. Just to get the bad end took forever and I could almost care less.
First route, as in, Tsubaki? Yeah, her route sucked.
Yeah, but in general all the characters sort of annoy me. I guess I like Haru's personality, but for the most part they all seem annoying and cliche.
I only liked Kanon (as I tend to like that archetype), and Haru is interesting. Mizuha would be okay if she wasn't absent for like the entire fucking game. Too bad Haru's route gets turned into Code Geass R2.
On June 19 2012 06:24 NationInArms wrote: Can you guys recommend me which subs to watch for Fate/Zero? Commie, NicoNico, or UTW (these are subs, right)?
NicoNico are the official subs, Commie and UTW take their script and edit it. UTW is generally better quality, but Commie is generally faster.
You saying Haru turns into CG R2 literally makes me want to stop right now and completely drop it...
On June 19 2012 06:16 tonight wrote: So, I finished the first route in G-Senjou no Maou and simply put. I already don't care for it. Just to get the bad end took forever and I could almost care less.
First route, as in, Tsubaki? Yeah, her route sucked.
Yeah, but in general all the characters sort of annoy me. I guess I like Haru's personality, but for the most part they all seem annoying and cliche.
I only liked Kanon (as I tend to like that archetype), and Haru is interesting. Mizuha would be okay if she wasn't absent for like the entire fucking game. Too bad Haru's route gets turned into Code Geass R2.
On June 19 2012 06:24 NationInArms wrote: Can you guys recommend me which subs to watch for Fate/Zero? Commie, NicoNico, or UTW (these are subs, right)?
NicoNico are the official subs, Commie and UTW take their script and edit it. UTW is generally better quality, but Commie is generally faster.
You saying Haru turns into CG R2 literally makes me want to stop right now and completely drop it...
I'm not much of a fan of G-Sen. Haru's route really pissed me off. My pet name for the visual novel is "G-Sen Destiny: Hangyaku no Maou". Obviously its a popular VN, so some people like it, including Ecael, but I'm not a fan.
Well, I had the thing on my HD for close to 2years without touching it. I decided to give it a go considering the only ones I've done are Clannad and Sharin
On June 19 2012 05:59 Sentenal wrote: Okay, Emnjay has questions about Aquarion, so I'll do my best to explain what the fuck is going on. Aquarion Spoilers, including spoilers from Genesis of Aquarion:
Okay, so lets start from the very beginning, 24000 years ago. We have Apollonius and Touma, two gay angels who wanted to destroy humanity. They were lovers. However, eventually Apollonius falls in love with a human woman, and betrays Touma and the Shadow Angels. Btw Apollonius has a dog.
Now we go to 12000 years ago, which was the story of Genesis of Aquarion. We have the main character, who is named Apollo. He gets caught up in the fight vs the Shadow Angels, who have returned. It is heavily implied that Apollo is Apollonius. The leader of the humans fighting against them is a guy named Fudo Gen (serves the exact same role then, as Fudo Zen does now). It is heavily hinted that Fudo was the 3rd original Aquarion Pilot. At the end, Apollo gets Touma, the Shadow Angel who was in love with Apollonius, to help him out to hold the World together at the end, by getting him to Gattai with him.
However, when they Gattai'd, Touma realizes that Apollo isn't actually Apollonius, but actually his dog! Then he realizes that Apollonius was ACTUALLY Fudo, who had just been trolling everyone the entire show.
Now come to the present. Apollo/The Dog is reincarnated again, this time as Amata/Kagura. Fudo Gen/Apollonius is back as Fudo Zen. Touma is back as Mikage. Mikage is really fucking salty about getting trolled/betrayed by Apollonius (Fudo) not once, but TWICE. So he makes it his mission to fuck with everyone, as what you have seen in EVOL.
24,000 years ago: These guys unioned to stop the shadow angels. -Apollonius -Celiane -??? (Implied to be Fudo, but is not)
12,000 years ago: These guys unioned to bind the earth. -Touma (Mikage) -Apollo (Implied to be Apollonius, but is not. Instead he is his dog. I guess this is the EVOL twist) -Silvia (Celiane)
So Touma(Mikage) finally got to union with Apollo and Silvia "at long last" because hes super horny for Apollonius? But instead, what he got was his dog, *woof woof* lol. Now he realizes that Apollonius was Fudo this entire time, and hes just furious. Ultimate troll for the ultimate fag. LOL.
Now this pattern reveals that there will be a final union, question is who will be the 3 to do so? My predictions will be that Amata will overcome Kagura, so hes the first pick. Mikono will definitely be the second. The third is hard to say, I can prolly guess Fudo Zen himself? Holy fck that would be crazy. Apollonius+Celiane+Dog = Most OP Aquarion in existance. But who knows? Well see... This also begs the question who the third pilot was 24,000 years ago, but Sent already stated that its likely the dog.
On June 19 2012 05:59 Sentenal wrote: Okay, Emnjay has questions about Aquarion, so I'll do my best to explain what the fuck is going on. Aquarion Spoilers, including spoilers from Genesis of Aquarion:
Okay, so lets start from the very beginning, 24000 years ago. We have Apollonius and Touma, two gay angels who wanted to destroy humanity. They were lovers. However, eventually Apollonius falls in love with a human woman, and betrays Touma and the Shadow Angels. Btw Apollonius has a dog.
Now we go to 12000 years ago, which was the story of Genesis of Aquarion. We have the main character, who is named Apollo. He gets caught up in the fight vs the Shadow Angels, who have returned. It is heavily implied that Apollo is Apollonius. The leader of the humans fighting against them is a guy named Fudo Gen (serves the exact same role then, as Fudo Zen does now). It is heavily hinted that Fudo was the 3rd original Aquarion Pilot. At the end, Apollo gets Touma, the Shadow Angel who was in love with Apollonius, to help him out to hold the World together at the end, by getting him to Gattai with him.
However, when they Gattai'd, Touma realizes that Apollo isn't actually Apollonius, but actually his dog! Then he realizes that Apollonius was ACTUALLY Fudo, who had just been trolling everyone the entire show.
Now come to the present. Apollo/The Dog is reincarnated again, this time as Amata/Kagura. Fudo Gen/Apollonius is back as Fudo Zen. Touma is back as Mikage. Mikage is really fucking salty about getting trolled/betrayed by Apollonius (Fudo) not once, but TWICE. So he makes it his mission to fuck with everyone, as what you have seen in EVOL.
24,000 years ago: These guys unioned to stop the shadow angels. -Apollonius -Celiane -??? (Implied to be Fudo, but is not)
12,000 years ago: These guys unioned to bind the earth. -Touma (Mikage) -Apollo (Implied to be Apollonius, but is not. Instead he is his dog. I guess this is the EVOL twist) -Silvia (Celiane)
So Touma(Mikage) finally got to union with Apollo and Silvia "at long last" because hes super horny for Apollonius? But instead, what he got was his dog, *woof woof* lol. Now he realizes that Apollonius was Fudo this entire time, and hes just furious. Ultimate troll for the ultimate fag. LOL.
Now this pattern reveals that there will be a final union, question is who will be the 3 to do so? My predictions will be that Amata will overcome Kagura, so hes the first pick. Mikono will definitely be the second. The third is hard to say, I can prolly guess Fudo Zen himself? Holy fck that would be crazy. Apollonius+Celiane+Dog = Most OP Aquarion in existance. But who knows? Well see... This also begs the question who the third pilot was 24,000 years ago, but Sent already stated that its likely the dog.
That is basically the general idea, although not exactly. This is just a spoiler for Genesis, and doesn't affect the plot of EVOL any:
Celiane was actually reincarnated as two separate people. One was Silvia, who Apollo falls in love with. Celiane's other half, her "dark side", was reincarnated as her brother, Serius. The final Gattai was between Apollo, Touma, and Serius. Silvia at the end of Genesis said she would wait 12000 more years to be re-united with Apollo.
As for the final Gattai in EVOL, I wouldn't be surprised if Mikono sat it out again. Obviously Amata will be in it, since hes the MC. Maybe Fudo will be in it, maybe Kagura, maybe Mikono, maybe Zessica. Guess we will find out.
Im glad you guys told me to do the Riho route in deardrops, because I would probably claw my own throat out if I were to go through the Yayoi route. Riho looks like she is going to be one tough nut to crack though. All Tsun and no dere right now grrr
Despite the "black stain" (with a lack of better wording) Haru's route isn't by any means bad. I believe it's still enjoyable for sure, final scene real emotional. ;; Just need to not be overly pissy about logic.
Don't listen to Sent, he likes Kanon (by far worst girl) so can't trust him at all. + Show Spoiler +
ahuehuehue
Mizuha route best route btw.
On June 19 2012 08:12 Ushio wrote: Im glad you guys told me to do the Riho route in deardrops, because I would probably claw my own throat out if I were to go through the Yayoi route. Riho looks like she is going to be one tough nut to crack though. All Tsun and no dere right now grrr
Too bad there's no Yukimura Kanako route D:
Yayoi's route isn't even mainly bad because of her personality. I'd say read it just to see your reaction if you dislike her alresdy during start of common route.
On June 19 2012 09:35 Elem wrote: Despite the "black stain" (with a lack of better wording) Haru's route isn't by any means bad. I believe it's still enjoyable for sure, final scene real emotional. ;; Just need to not be overly pissy about logic.
Don't listen to Sent, he likes Kanon (by far worst girl) so can't trust him at all. + Show Spoiler +
On June 19 2012 08:12 Ushio wrote: Im glad you guys told me to do the Riho route in deardrops, because I would probably claw my own throat out if I were to go through the Yayoi route. Riho looks like she is going to be one tough nut to crack though. All Tsun and no dere right now grrr
Too bad there's no Yukimura Kanako route D:
Yayoi's route isn't even mainly bad because of her personality. I'd say read it just to see your reaction if you dislike her alresdy during start of common route.
Tonight, this guy liked Tsubaki and her route. Can't believe a word he says.
On June 19 2012 06:46 tonight wrote: Well, I had the thing on my HD for close to 2years without touching it. I decided to give it a go considering the only ones I've done are Clannad and Sharin
I dropped it halfway into the second chapter. It's definitely not a VN for everyone.
Fate Zero: I generally just go with the top-rated subbing group on MAL, so it's been UTW for me
G-Senjou: Haru's cool though her route ends up a bit ridiculous as people have said (YMMV) Mizuha is really sweet during her route, I liked Wasn't really a fan of Kanon tbh c'mon guys, Tsubaki route wasn't thaaaat bad (perhaps I'm just biased from going through Tsubaki route immediately after finishing Haru's? shrugs). Mizuha still > Tsubaki though.
The real question is how would you rank the bad ends?
P.S. @tonight, you should check out Fate Stay Night :D
About bad ends, Kanon > Mizuha > Tsubaki. Kanon bad end is on par with Tsubaki good end.
Also, Sharin getting kinda interesting now that the MC is acting less like a retard and you actually get to know a bit about the past. I'm only on 2nd chapter though, doesnt look like I got into any route yet. Heroines seem kinda meh and what will happen seems obvious, but I've learnt from experience that judging them in advance isn't best thing ever so I'll keep at it.
On June 19 2012 12:59 Elem wrote: About bad ends, Kanon > Mizuha > Tsubaki. Kanon bad end is on par with Tsubaki good end.
Also, Sharin getting kinda interesting now that the MC is acting less like a retard and you actually get to know a bit about the past. I'm only on 2nd chapter though, doesnt look like I got into any route yet. Heroines seem kinda meh and what will happen seems obvious, but I've learnt from experience that judging them in advance isn't best thing ever so I'll keep at it.
and Sachi makes me all wiggly when she talks about booms.
Routes in Sharin are different from how they are in G-Sen. While each girl has a different chapter in both VNs, in Sharin, regardless of whose route you do, you play through all the chapters, and get to see the entire story. The main differences between routes is who you get the H-scene with, and the epilogue.
On June 19 2012 05:59 Sentenal wrote: Okay, Emnjay has questions about Aquarion, so I'll do my best to explain what the fuck is going on. Aquarion Spoilers, including spoilers from Genesis of Aquarion:
Okay, so lets start from the very beginning, 24000 years ago. We have Apollonius and Touma, two gay angels who wanted to destroy humanity. They were lovers. However, eventually Apollonius falls in love with a human woman, and betrays Touma and the Shadow Angels. Btw Apollonius has a dog.
Now we go to 12000 years ago, which was the story of Genesis of Aquarion. We have the main character, who is named Apollo. He gets caught up in the fight vs the Shadow Angels, who have returned. It is heavily implied that Apollo is Apollonius. The leader of the humans fighting against them is a guy named Fudo Gen (serves the exact same role then, as Fudo Zen does now). It is heavily hinted that Fudo was the 3rd original Aquarion Pilot. At the end, Apollo gets Touma, the Shadow Angel who was in love with Apollonius, to help him out to hold the World together at the end, by getting him to Gattai with him.
However, when they Gattai'd, Touma realizes that Apollo isn't actually Apollonius, but actually his dog! Then he realizes that Apollonius was ACTUALLY Fudo, who had just been trolling everyone the entire show.
Now come to the present. Apollo/The Dog is reincarnated again, this time as Amata/Kagura. Fudo Gen/Apollonius is back as Fudo Zen. Touma is back as Mikage. Mikage is really fucking salty about getting trolled/betrayed by Apollonius (Fudo) not once, but TWICE. So he makes it his mission to fuck with everyone, as what you have seen in EVOL.
24,000 years ago: These guys unioned to stop the shadow angels. -Apollonius -Celiane -??? (Implied to be Fudo, but is not)
12,000 years ago: These guys unioned to bind the earth. -Touma (Mikage) -Apollo (Implied to be Apollonius, but is not. Instead he is his dog. I guess this is the EVOL twist) -Silvia (Celiane)
So Touma(Mikage) finally got to union with Apollo and Silvia "at long last" because hes super horny for Apollonius? But instead, what he got was his dog, *woof woof* lol. Now he realizes that Apollonius was Fudo this entire time, and hes just furious. Ultimate troll for the ultimate fag. LOL.
Now this pattern reveals that there will be a final union, question is who will be the 3 to do so? My predictions will be that Amata will overcome Kagura, so hes the first pick. Mikono will definitely be the second. The third is hard to say, I can prolly guess Fudo Zen himself? Holy fck that would be crazy. Apollonius+Celiane+Dog = Most OP Aquarion in existance. But who knows? Well see... This also begs the question who the third pilot was 24,000 years ago, but Sent already stated that its likely the dog.
That is basically the general idea, although not exactly. This is just a spoiler for Genesis, and doesn't affect the plot of EVOL any:
Celiane was actually reincarnated as two separate people. One was Silvia, who Apollo falls in love with. Celiane's other half, her "dark side", was reincarnated as her brother, Serius. The final Gattai was between Apollo, Touma, and Serius. Silvia at the end of Genesis said she would wait 12000 more years to be re-united with Apollo.
As for the final Gattai in EVOL, I wouldn't be surprised if Mikono sat it out again. Obviously Amata will be in it, since hes the MC. Maybe Fudo will be in it, maybe Kagura, maybe Mikono, maybe Zessica. Guess we will find out.
What if Kagura and Amata recombined back into one person again?
Also, god dammit Andy, idk wtf to think any more after that. Only legit solution I could see before this episode was that they both died trying to save Mix. But now, I don't know how I feel if her being back on Vega will turn Mixy back to Mix. She was still a guy at one point. =\
EPT
